fcbayern Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 First let me say this is a long story so, thank you in advance for taking the time to read it and give me your advice.I am fairly new at this. My first few hookah experiences were at a local hookah lounge and I loved it. I twas everything i thought it would be and more. So after a few times of droping 25-30 to smoke there I bought my own rig.Here is where the problem starts. Everytime I smoke my rig, I get a nasty dizzy nauseous feeling after a few minutes of smokin. at first I thought it was the Shisha I ordered with my rig (potion). Then I got some Nak much better tasting but still pretty much the same in the nasty buzz dept. So finally I said I'm gonna get some SB, everyone says it has no buzz at all.. Last night I smoked a bowl of Blue mist. At first it was alright, no strange feeling nothin, and great flavor. After a while though the buzz hit me like all of a sudden and I wasn hunched over on the floor cuz I couldnt stand up.My question is WTF am I doing wrong? Could it be that I'm now smoking everyday and I'm making it worse? Is it my setup? Am I burning my shisha too hot? not hot enough? Any advice would be appreciated thanxHeres my setup.. I have a 40" KM SSR, I'm using the hose and bowl that came with it. The bowl is very large and holds about 20-25g of shisha (is this too much for 1 person to smoke alone?) I usually use 2 whole quick light coals (3kings).. Ice and water in the base.Thanx guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellywerker Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Maybe you aren't breathing enough air? I've had friends who hit the hookah constantly and get nauseous and lightheaded because they aren't breathing enough clean air. I don't think you are super sensitive to nicotine due to your lounge experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1024 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 nakhla and starbuzz are unwashed, so they contain the same amount of nicotine. go for some af, or tang lucid or something washed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 If I had to take one guess...Your Quicklights aren't fully lit when you put them on your bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trivial Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 lolllll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcbayern Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 I thought SB was washed? is that not right?Stuie, you maybe right. I usually put them on right away..Maybe a minute or so.. how long should I wait? should I try something natural? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majid Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 QUOTE (fcbayern @ Feb 27 2009, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>First let me say this is a long story so, thank you in advance for taking the time to read it and give me your advice.I am fairly new at this. My first few hookah experiences were at a local hookah lounge and I loved it. I twas everything i thought it would be and more. So after a few times of droping 25-30 to smoke there I bought my own rig.Here is where the problem starts. Everytime I smoke my rig, I get a nasty dizzy nauseous feeling after a few minutes of smokin. at first I thought it was the Shisha I ordered with my rig (potion). Then I got some Nak much better tasting but still pretty much the same in the nasty buzz dept. So finally I said I'm gonna get some SB, everyone says it has no buzz at all.. Last night I smoked a bowl of Blue mist. At first it was alright, no strange feeling nothin, and great flavor. After a while though the buzz hit me like all of a sudden and I wasn hunched over on the floor cuz I couldnt stand up.My question is WTF am I doing wrong? Could it be that I'm now smoking everyday and I'm making it worse? Is it my setup? Am I burning my shisha too hot? not hot enough? Any advice would be appreciated thanxHeres my setup.. I have a 40" KM SSR, I'm using the hose and bowl that came with it. The bowl is very large and holds about 20-25g of shisha (is this too much for 1 person to smoke alone?) I usually use 2 whole quick light coals (3kings).. Ice and water in the base.Thanx guys2 whole quicklights could be too much coal, you can experiment with two or three halves on the outside of the bowl. You can half the coals by scoring them with a knife then snapping them. Also, make sure that your coals are red hot when you put them on, you fan them, blow on them or even sit them on the stove for a minute to get them going properly.That's all i can think of going by your story. Is the draw light? Can you crack a window where you smoke? Do you smoke on an empty stomach? Do you smoke nonstop, as in keep hitting the hose over and over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellywerker Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 wait till they stop sparking and are fully red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 starbuzz is washed...sound to mean like its your coals, try getting some natural coals like exoticas, or nour since they are cheap, if you can i recommend you get fumari jap coals or golden canarys they are a little expensive but worth in imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcbayern Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 QUOTE (Majid @ Feb 27 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (fcbayern @ Feb 27 2009, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>First let me say this is a long story so, thank you in advance for taking the time to read it and give me your advice.I am fairly new at this. My first few hookah experiences were at a local hookah lounge and I loved it. I twas everything i thought it would be and more. So after a few times of droping 25-30 to smoke there I bought my own rig.Here is where the problem starts. Everytime I smoke my rig, I get a nasty dizzy nauseous feeling after a few minutes of smokin. at first I thought it was the Shisha I ordered with my rig (potion). Then I got some Nak much better tasting but still pretty much the same in the nasty buzz dept. So finally I said I'm gonna get some SB, everyone says it has no buzz at all.. Last night I smoked a bowl of Blue mist. At first it was alright, no strange feeling nothin, and great flavor. After a while though the buzz hit me like all of a sudden and I wasn hunched over on the floor cuz I couldnt stand up.My question is WTF am I doing wrong? Could it be that I'm now smoking everyday and I'm making it worse? Is it my setup? Am I burning my shisha too hot? not hot enough? Any advice would be appreciated thanxHeres my setup.. I have a 40" KM SSR, I'm using the hose and bowl that came with it. The bowl is very large and holds about 20-25g of shisha (is this too much for 1 person to smoke alone?) I usually use 2 whole quick light coals (3kings).. Ice and water in the base.Thanx guys2 whole quicklights could be too much coal, you can experiment with two or three halves on the outside of the bowl. You can half the coals by scoring them with a knife then snapping them. Also, make sure that your coals are red hot when you put them on, you fan them, blow on them or even sit them on the stove for a minute to get them going properly.That's all i can think of going by your story. Is the draw light? Can you crack a window where you smoke? Do you smoke on an empty stomach? Do you smoke nonstop, as in keep hitting the hose over and over?If I'm using too much coal wouldnt it be harsh in my mouth? I put 1.5 coal on the rig at first and dint get big clouds with 2 I get big clouds a little less flavor,, but no harsh? I smoke outside, and try and pace my smokin,, but I do smoke alone, at home and at the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 QUOTE (fcbayern @ Feb 27 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I thought SB was washed? is that not right?Stuie, you maybe right. I usually put them on right away..Maybe a minute or so.. how long should I wait? should I try something natural?Blow on them until they're glowing hot or it will emit dangerous(hah) amounts of carbon monoxide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majid Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 QUOTE (fcbayern @ Feb 27 2009, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Majid @ Feb 27 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (fcbayern @ Feb 27 2009, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>First let me say this is a long story so, thank you in advance for taking the time to read it and give me your advice.I am fairly new at this. My first few hookah experiences were at a local hookah lounge and I loved it. I twas everything i thought it would be and more. So after a few times of droping 25-30 to smoke there I bought my own rig.Here is where the problem starts. Everytime I smoke my rig, I get a nasty dizzy nauseous feeling after a few minutes of smokin. at first I thought it was the Shisha I ordered with my rig (potion). Then I got some Nak much better tasting but still pretty much the same in the nasty buzz dept. So finally I said I'm gonna get some SB, everyone says it has no buzz at all.. Last night I smoked a bowl of Blue mist. At first it was alright, no strange feeling nothin, and great flavor. After a while though the buzz hit me like all of a sudden and I wasn hunched over on the floor cuz I couldnt stand up.My question is WTF am I doing wrong? Could it be that I'm now smoking everyday and I'm making it worse? Is it my setup? Am I burning my shisha too hot? not hot enough? Any advice would be appreciated thanxHeres my setup.. I have a 40" KM SSR, I'm using the hose and bowl that came with it. The bowl is very large and holds about 20-25g of shisha (is this too much for 1 person to smoke alone?) I usually use 2 whole quick light coals (3kings).. Ice and water in the base.Thanx guys2 whole quicklights could be too much coal, you can experiment with two or three halves on the outside of the bowl. You can half the coals by scoring them with a knife then snapping them. Also, make sure that your coals are red hot when you put them on, you fan them, blow on them or even sit them on the stove for a minute to get them going properly.That's all i can think of going by your story. Is the draw light? Can you crack a window where you smoke? Do you smoke on an empty stomach? Do you smoke nonstop, as in keep hitting the hose over and over?If I'm using too much coal wouldnt it be harsh in my mouth? I put 1.5 coal on the rig at first and dint get big clouds with 2 I get big clouds a little less flavor,, but no harsh? I smoke outside, and try and pace my smokin,, but I do smoke alone, at home and at the bar.If the smoke doesn't taste off(it doesn't have to be harsh) then you're probably not using too much coal. Do make sure it's red hot though.Hmm only other thing i can think of is a dirty hookah tainting the smoke. Or a dirty hose. Try unhooking your hose, breathing in through it and see if it gives you that nauxious feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likespaceships Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I hope you aren't lighting the coals on your bowl. That would be a big problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 QUOTE (trivial @ Feb 27 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>lolllllGood job contributing...Make sure your coals are fully lit and you're not lighting them on the bowl. 2 coals sounds about right if the coals are on the edges of the bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) I used to get the dizzy, nauseous feeling too.. hookah used to make me sick if I did too much of it. But then my body got used to it, and now I just get that nice buzzed feeling. Though I still get dizzy too. Very rarely do I get nauseous, but only with certain really strong unwashed shishas. Some people have a low nicotine tolerance. Ya gotta build up a tolerance to it.As for quicklights.. they always give me a headache, except for those little silver flint Japanese ones and John's quicklights. Golden's, king's, and most other round-shaped quicklights give me a headache and can make me sick. Make sure when you use them that they are FULLY lit or you'll be sucking in that chemical smell/taste. Yuck. Edited February 27, 2009 by JDHarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbs Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 This sounds like the results of too much carbon monoxide, you need to make sure your coals are fully lit and have built a thin layer of ash. Also too much coal could give off too much carbon monoxide as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcbayern Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 OK so I guess i"m gonna try something different with my coals.. The potion shisha that came with my rig brought some Japanese style silver painted coals.. Should I try these? Are they QL as well? or should I stick to the 3kings and wait a little longer before putting them on the bowl.. i definately do not light them on the bowl, but i do put them on after the top is red, no necessarilly ALL over red.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbs Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 After you light your 3-kings I would let them sit on the coal tray or somewhere for at least 2-3 minutes, that way all the accelerant burns off .. knock the ash off and put em where they need to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippomania7 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 hey it could be something as small as smoking on an empty stomach. I always grab a bite before I hookah, it makes a huge difference in terms of how the buzz hits you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoodz Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 When I use 3 Kings QLs, I use a hammer and nail and will break them into halves or thirds prior to lighting them. ALso, make sure you are taking some breaks between puffs. Your brain needs oxygen. Some of my friends will get buzzed quickly because they don't let up on it. Let us know how your next sessions are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 make sure coals are fully lit and not started on the bowl. break the coals in half and put them around the edges. clean your hookah and hose. thats all i can come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Have something to eat about an hour before you smoke, drink plenty of liquids while smoking. NOT pop or caffeinated tea, that will make you dehydrated. Water or green tea is great.And smoke with the window cracked open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 you're supposed to feel sick, nicotine is a pesticide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 QUOTE (ilikemyusername @ Feb 27 2009, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you're supposed to feel sick, nicotine is a pesticide.But nobody I know gets a buzz from Starbuzz. The nicotine is barely even there. I dont know how he could be buzzing so hard unless he's hitting without breathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschoenith Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 i smoke enough and don't always use m coals when they are red hot and i haven't had any problems,could the heat of the coal actually make these side effects??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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