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First let me say this is a long story so, thank you in advance for taking the time to read it and give me your advice.

I am fairly new at this. My first few hookah experiences were at a local hookah lounge and I loved it. I twas everything i thought it would be and more. So after a few times of droping 25-30 to smoke there I bought my own rig.

Here is where the problem starts. Everytime I smoke my rig, I get a nasty dizzy nauseous feeling after a few minutes of smokin. at first I thought it was the Shisha I ordered with my rig (potion). Then I got some Nak much better tasting but still pretty much the same in the nasty buzz dept. So finally I said I'm gonna get some SB, everyone says it has no buzz at all.. Last night I smoked a bowl of Blue mist. At first it was alright, no strange feeling nothin, and great flavor. After a while though the buzz hit me like all of a sudden and I wasn hunched over on the floor cuz I couldnt stand up.


My question is WTF am I doing wrong? Could it be that I'm now smoking everyday and I'm making it worse? Is it my setup? Am I burning my shisha too hot? not hot enough? Any advice would be appreciated thanx

Heres my setup.. I have a 40" KM SSR, I'm using the hose and bowl that came with it. The bowl is very large and holds about 20-25g of shisha (is this too much for 1 person to smoke alone?) I usually use 2 whole quick light coals (3kings).. Ice and water in the base.

Thanx guys
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Maybe you aren't breathing enough air? I've had friends who hit the hookah constantly and get nauseous and lightheaded because they aren't breathing enough clean air. I don't think you are super sensitive to nicotine due to your lounge experiences.
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QUOTE (fcbayern @ Feb 27 2009, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First let me say this is a long story so, thank you in advance for taking the time to read it and give me your advice.

I am fairly new at this. My first few hookah experiences were at a local hookah lounge and I loved it. I twas everything i thought it would be and more. So after a few times of droping 25-30 to smoke there I bought my own rig.

Here is where the problem starts. Everytime I smoke my rig, I get a nasty dizzy nauseous feeling after a few minutes of smokin. at first I thought it was the Shisha I ordered with my rig (potion). Then I got some Nak much better tasting but still pretty much the same in the nasty buzz dept. So finally I said I'm gonna get some SB, everyone says it has no buzz at all.. Last night I smoked a bowl of Blue mist. At first it was alright, no strange feeling nothin, and great flavor. After a while though the buzz hit me like all of a sudden and I wasn hunched over on the floor cuz I couldnt stand up.


My question is WTF am I doing wrong? Could it be that I'm now smoking everyday and I'm making it worse? Is it my setup? Am I burning my shisha too hot? not hot enough? Any advice would be appreciated thanx

Heres my setup.. I have a 40" KM SSR, I'm using the hose and bowl that came with it. The bowl is very large and holds about 20-25g of shisha (is this too much for 1 person to smoke alone?) I usually use 2 whole quick light coals (3kings).. Ice and water in the base.

Thanx guys


2 whole quicklights could be too much coal, you can experiment with two or three halves on the outside of the bowl. You can half the coals by scoring them with a knife then snapping them. Also, make sure that your coals are red hot when you put them on, you fan them, blow on them or even sit them on the stove for a minute to get them going properly.
That's all i can think of going by your story. Is the draw light? Can you crack a window where you smoke? Do you smoke on an empty stomach? Do you smoke nonstop, as in keep hitting the hose over and over?
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starbuzz is washed...

sound to mean like its your coals, try getting some natural coals like exoticas, or nour since they are cheap, if you can i recommend you get fumari jap coals or golden canarys they are a little expensive but worth in imo.
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QUOTE (Majid @ Feb 27 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (fcbayern @ Feb 27 2009, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First let me say this is a long story so, thank you in advance for taking the time to read it and give me your advice.

I am fairly new at this. My first few hookah experiences were at a local hookah lounge and I loved it. I twas everything i thought it would be and more. So after a few times of droping 25-30 to smoke there I bought my own rig.

Here is where the problem starts. Everytime I smoke my rig, I get a nasty dizzy nauseous feeling after a few minutes of smokin. at first I thought it was the Shisha I ordered with my rig (potion). Then I got some Nak much better tasting but still pretty much the same in the nasty buzz dept. So finally I said I'm gonna get some SB, everyone says it has no buzz at all.. Last night I smoked a bowl of Blue mist. At first it was alright, no strange feeling nothin, and great flavor. After a while though the buzz hit me like all of a sudden and I wasn hunched over on the floor cuz I couldnt stand up.


My question is WTF am I doing wrong? Could it be that I'm now smoking everyday and I'm making it worse? Is it my setup? Am I burning my shisha too hot? not hot enough? Any advice would be appreciated thanx

Heres my setup.. I have a 40" KM SSR, I'm using the hose and bowl that came with it. The bowl is very large and holds about 20-25g of shisha (is this too much for 1 person to smoke alone?) I usually use 2 whole quick light coals (3kings).. Ice and water in the base.

Thanx guys


2 whole quicklights could be too much coal, you can experiment with two or three halves on the outside of the bowl. You can half the coals by scoring them with a knife then snapping them. Also, make sure that your coals are red hot when you put them on, you fan them, blow on them or even sit them on the stove for a minute to get them going properly.
That's all i can think of going by your story. Is the draw light? Can you crack a window where you smoke? Do you smoke on an empty stomach? Do you smoke nonstop, as in keep hitting the hose over and over?



If I'm using too much coal wouldnt it be harsh in my mouth? I put 1.5 coal on the rig at first and dint get big clouds with 2 I get big clouds a little less flavor,, but no harsh? I smoke outside, and try and pace my smokin,, but I do smoke alone, at home and at the bar.
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QUOTE (fcbayern @ Feb 27 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought SB was washed? is that not right?

Stuie, you maybe right. I usually put them on right away..Maybe a minute or so.. how long should I wait? should I try something natural?


Blow on them until they're glowing hot or it will emit dangerous(hah) amounts of carbon monoxide.
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QUOTE (fcbayern @ Feb 27 2009, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Majid @ Feb 27 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (fcbayern @ Feb 27 2009, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First let me say this is a long story so, thank you in advance for taking the time to read it and give me your advice.

I am fairly new at this. My first few hookah experiences were at a local hookah lounge and I loved it. I twas everything i thought it would be and more. So after a few times of droping 25-30 to smoke there I bought my own rig.

Here is where the problem starts. Everytime I smoke my rig, I get a nasty dizzy nauseous feeling after a few minutes of smokin. at first I thought it was the Shisha I ordered with my rig (potion). Then I got some Nak much better tasting but still pretty much the same in the nasty buzz dept. So finally I said I'm gonna get some SB, everyone says it has no buzz at all.. Last night I smoked a bowl of Blue mist. At first it was alright, no strange feeling nothin, and great flavor. After a while though the buzz hit me like all of a sudden and I wasn hunched over on the floor cuz I couldnt stand up.


My question is WTF am I doing wrong? Could it be that I'm now smoking everyday and I'm making it worse? Is it my setup? Am I burning my shisha too hot? not hot enough? Any advice would be appreciated thanx

Heres my setup.. I have a 40" KM SSR, I'm using the hose and bowl that came with it. The bowl is very large and holds about 20-25g of shisha (is this too much for 1 person to smoke alone?) I usually use 2 whole quick light coals (3kings).. Ice and water in the base.

Thanx guys


2 whole quicklights could be too much coal, you can experiment with two or three halves on the outside of the bowl. You can half the coals by scoring them with a knife then snapping them. Also, make sure that your coals are red hot when you put them on, you fan them, blow on them or even sit them on the stove for a minute to get them going properly.
That's all i can think of going by your story. Is the draw light? Can you crack a window where you smoke? Do you smoke on an empty stomach? Do you smoke nonstop, as in keep hitting the hose over and over?



If I'm using too much coal wouldnt it be harsh in my mouth? I put 1.5 coal on the rig at first and dint get big clouds with 2 I get big clouds a little less flavor,, but no harsh? I smoke outside, and try and pace my smokin,, but I do smoke alone, at home and at the bar.

If the smoke doesn't taste off(it doesn't have to be harsh) then you're probably not using too much coal. Do make sure it's red hot though.
Hmm only other thing i can think of is a dirty hookah tainting the smoke. Or a dirty hose. Try unhooking your hose, breathing in through it and see if it gives you that nauxious feeling.
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I used to get the dizzy, nauseous feeling too.. hookah used to make me sick if I did too much of it. But then my body got used to it, and now I just get that nice buzzed feeling. Though I still get dizzy too. Very rarely do I get nauseous, but only with certain really strong unwashed shishas. Some people have a low nicotine tolerance. Ya gotta build up a tolerance to it.

As for quicklights.. they always give me a headache, except for those little silver flint Japanese ones and John's quicklights. Golden's, king's, and most other round-shaped quicklights give me a headache and can make me sick. Make sure when you use them that they are FULLY lit or you'll be sucking in that chemical smell/taste. Yuck. Edited by JDHarding
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This sounds like the results of too much carbon monoxide, you need to make sure your coals are fully lit and have built a thin layer of ash. Also too much coal could give off too much carbon monoxide as well.
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OK so I guess i"m gonna try something different with my coals.. The potion shisha that came with my rig brought some Japanese style silver painted coals.. Should I try these? Are they QL as well? or should I stick to the 3kings and wait a little longer before putting them on the bowl.. i definately do not light them on the bowl, but i do put them on after the top is red, no necessarilly ALL over red..
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After you light your 3-kings I would let them sit on the coal tray or somewhere for at least 2-3 minutes, that way all the accelerant burns off .. knock the ash off and put em where they need to go.
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When I use 3 Kings QLs, I use a hammer and nail and will break them into halves or thirds prior to lighting them. ALso, make sure you are taking some breaks between puffs. Your brain needs oxygen. Some of my friends will get buzzed quickly because they don't let up on it. Let us know how your next sessions are.
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Have something to eat about an hour before you smoke, drink plenty of liquids while smoking. NOT pop or caffeinated tea, that will make you dehydrated. Water or green tea is great.

And smoke with the window cracked open.
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