Illmatic Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 I love these coals, but whenever I stick them on the bowl, after a couple of pulls the bottom stays black, anyone know why? Am I not leaving it on the stove long enough or what? The flavour starts to taste like coal and its mixing with the flavour. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 let it cook until they are red all around. and flip them every so often when they are on the bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdx88 Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 To my knowledge any natural coal or even coal in general will do this, as stated above, just flip em when you think of it. For me this about every 15 mins. Make sure they have a small flame coming from both sides before you start using them.Also I have gone full sessions without flipping my cocos and I have been just fine.Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Like others said, leave them on the burner a few minutes longer than you think you should, and when they are first put on the bowl, you're gonna have to flip them a few times every 10-15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye bye now have fun Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 i let the bottom go out. when i ash them i flip them tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyram Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 a trick I have found is to set them on one of the sides, this way it's not a large surface of the coal that is going out, and overall they work great this way, after the first 20mins I'll just flip them on to the larger side and the small one that went out will get going again, and usually this is the only time I've got to flip them. Give it a shot and tell me if it works for you as well.-Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 if this is happening your coals are hot all the way through. Out of a box of cocos only one went out on me and needed to be flipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylren Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 With coco's you just have to flip them every so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoodz Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Using a windcover periodically helps keep the coals fully lit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 QUOTE (Illmatic @ Mar 7 2009, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I love these coals, but whenever I stick them on the bowl, after a couple of pulls the bottom stays black, anyone know why? Am I not leaving it on the stove long enough or what? The flavour starts to taste like coal and its mixing with the flavour. Thanks.They will always do that, as will all coals for the most part.I'm not exactly sure what causes it, but I never flip coals, and it keeps the same taste.Otherwise, flip every 10-15 min (that often). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) I notice with all coals that even during lighting, even with a flame on top (like hot coil burners lighting my three coco's just now) the top, already lit part will blacken.<br /><br />I think its a non-issue.<br /> Edited March 8, 2009 by redjako Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Common now..simple logic guys: The bottom of the coals is simply not getting enough oxygen/air flow to stay "alive".The top is always lit and very hot because it is exposed to the air.The foil simply kills the air flow and therefor the bottom of the coals go black.That's the only problem that I have with flat coals. You must flip them over constantly. That's also the reason why I mostly use bulk coals, because 99.99% of the coals come in random, round shapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 PS: You do NOT need to keep them longer on the burner. This problem will occur whether you leave the coals on the burner for 10 minutes or 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 QUOTE (Codename067 @ Mar 7 2009, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Common now..simple logic guys: The bottom of the coals is simply not getting enough oxygen/air flow to stay "alive".The top is always lit and very hot because it is exposed to the air.The foil simply kills the air flow and therefor the bottom of the coals go black.That's the only problem that I have with flat coals. You must flip them over constantly. That's also the reason why I mostly use bulk coals, because 99.99% of the coals come in random, round shapes.+1 to natural bulk. you cant beat the price either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 i know this is off topic but do you heat up bulk coals on a single coil burner and are there any brands you would suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuburbanSmoker Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 honestly if you cook the coals to the point where they are completely red you should get no taste. if you are i have no clue whatsgoing on because ive never experienced that in all the boxes ive ever used. an easy way to solve the problem of them going out is to corner the coals on the edge of the bowl when starting. once the coal starts to ash you should be perfectly fine and dont have to worry about diddly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 QUOTE (joytron @ Mar 7 2009, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i know this is off topic but do you heat up bulk coals on a single coil burner and are there any brands you would suggest?no you dont cook them on a single coil burner. i cook mine on a small camping style propane outdoor stovetop. if you arent going to do it consistantly its kinda a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 QUOTE (joytron @ Mar 7 2009, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i know this is off topic but do you heat up bulk coals on a single coil burner and are there any brands you would suggest?I cook mine on my single coil burner in my room I use Layalina bulk charcoal usually when I am broke though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Dont let them sit flat, have a corner or two up on the side of the bowl, mine dont sit flat and i just get little black dots on them =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Here's an experiment. Take a pot of water. Turn the burner on high, wait two or three minutes. Check the temperature of the water, to make sure its not too hot to stick your hand in, now put your hand in the water to the bottom of the pot. The burner is around 1000F, yet the temperature of the bottom of the pot is far cooler. The water moderates the heat from the burner. Such is the condition with charcoal. A hot charcoal on a bowl of tobacco will cool off a lot, because the bowl is so much cooler and the tobacco moderates (often because of water content in the tobacco) the temperature of the charcoal, below its red hot temperature, appearing dark and cold. Assuredly it is quite hot, however. Some charcoal might need more heat to actually burn well, so it might be a significant problem for the burning of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An1m Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 QUOTE (MrMoodz @ Mar 7 2009, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Using a windcover periodically helps keep the coals fully lit.I think windcovers improve the overall amount of heat on top of the bowl, but can often lead to killing the coalls much faster, especially if you have a tall bowl like a Tangier's Phunnel and your windcover is allowing for proper air flow because of where the bowl is resting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I just treat the windcover (on a med. Tangiers phunnel) as an extra half-coal. Hasn't killed anything yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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