Sonthert Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I think throwing it in the oven is the worst possible thing to do to try to acclimate it the first time. I usually tell people to put it in the freezer for a day or two if they are having trouble acclimating it (if its dry where they are). because the damp->dry humidity thing is the worst transition. Where dry-> damp is a little better. Ovens are warm and damp. The damp being the problem. You add additional moisture content to the tobacco and are driving it damp-> dry continuously. Also, more volatile flavors will be driven off more strongly in more heat making the flavors/aroma weaker, notably the fruity components of the flavor. BGB does smell a little odd. Some people don't like the aroma or the flavor at all...I guess that's true for any flavor.Sorry it didn't work out for you.Edit: Why would flaming ensue? Its your opinion, other people might disagree with you, but Tangiers or Lucid isn't for everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speel Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 QUOTE (mushrat @ Mar 12 2009, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (speel @ Mar 12 2009, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It could also be the inconsistency of the tobacco.the tobacco is consistant. believ me i order between 40-70 kilos at a time.i guess some places just arent good for tangiers. Sorry to hear about you issues.Lucky =/I ordered a 3 250g pack from H-S 1 out of 2 didn't smell like bbq sauce .. along with separate orders through out the years. But hey who knows. I just find it odd that some people can smoke it with no problems and other people have problems. Thats kinda like owning a boat in the middle of Texas opposed to living in FL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 QUOTE (Sonthert @ Mar 12 2009, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think throwing it in the oven is the worst possible thing to do to try to acclimate it the first time. I usually tell people to put it in the freezer for a day or two if they are having trouble acclimating it (if its dry where they are). because the damp->dry humidity thing is the worst transition. Where dry-> damp is a little better. Ovens are warm and damp. The damp being the problem. You add additional moisture content to the tobacco and are driving it damp-> dry continuously. Also, more volatile flavors will be driven off more strongly in more heat making the flavors/aroma weaker, notably the fruity components of the flavor. BGB does smell a little odd. Some people don't like the aroma or the flavor at all...I guess that's true for any flavor.Sorry it didn't work out for you.Edit: Why would flaming ensue? Its your opinion, other people might disagree with you, but Tangiers or Lucid isn't for everybody.well, it smells like something i would want to smoke now, maybe though i could get a little more rasberry flavor for it? make it "RASBERRY REVENGE!" that would rule. ooh... i wonder if i can smoke Kool-Aid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 The base flavors are harsher than the top flavors, the top flavors being more volatile and likely to boil off. If I sent you more raspberry flavor it would have more top flavor, but more base flavor and it would be more harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Throwing it in the oven seems like you might as well just throw it out it seems like it will be totally dried out afyerwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Anyone ever try mixing honey or molasses into their bad batches of Tang to see if that helped any? Or maybe ask the Tang guys what they use for flavoring, get some, and add more to the Tang?I'm starting to think BGB and Raspberry are such a mild flavored shisha that sometimes the tobacco, or something during the processing of the tobacco, overpowers the raspberry flavor/smell. Maybe they just need to add more flavoring to correct this process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 QUOTE (JDHarding @ Mar 13 2009, 02:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Anyone ever try mixing honey or molasses into their bad batches of Tang to see if that helped any? Or maybe ask the Tang guys what they use for flavoring, get some, and add more to the Tang?I'm starting to think BGB and Raspberry are such a mild flavored shisha that sometimes the tobacco, or something during the processing of the tobacco, overpowers the raspberry flavor/smell. Maybe they just need to add more flavoring to correct this process?Honey/molasses won't add appreciably to the situation...might make it worse though.I don't think thats it, I thinks its people expect something different than what it is. How does it smoke is the real test. Some flavors have aromas that are lighter when its dry out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Mmm.. I don't think so. I have 2 batches of Lucid BGB. The first one, from Hookah-Shisha, smelt like soy sauce and BBQ sauce. Kind of a sweet smell, but really it was stinky stuff. Smelt burnt.I got a second batch straight from Tangiers when they heard my first batch was so gross. This second batch smelt right. Smelt sweet. No soy sauce smell. Smoked great.Now, I'll admit, the first batch smokes fine and smells fine while smoking. But right out of the bag it smells fowl. So, I dunno..Anyone have a bad batch that smoked bad? That's really what we need to find out. If it actually SMOKES bad, not just smells bad. Somebody with Tang experience, smoke a bad batch, then smoke a good batch, and compare. If it's just smelly, then there's really nothing wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 i have not had experience with lucid but i have had plenty with original.I would think the lucid would adjust easier though.i have been ordering tangiers for probably 2 years now?i usually smoke it right when i get it, no matter what time of the year it is.just got some more k-peach and it is cold as fuck outside.was still cold when i got home and i'm smoking it just fine now...it's weird to me that some people have so much trouble on several occasions and others have none. even if they are in the same area with very similar climates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 well i think it depends, when i used to buy tang, it would come in the mail and smell like straight shit, i waited, i waited, and ummm ... i waited, and it never stopped smelling like shit, with the acceptance of a couple flavors, so my take is awesome shisha if it cooperates with you, but if it doesn't move on b/c it isn't the end of the world. Tang isn't and CAN'T be for everyone.If you get it in the mail and it is good 2 go, then lucky you. I actually did try smoking it when it came in and smelt like shit, (they all smelt funny, so i was like ahh what the heck lets try it) and damn it was bad.So there are definitely some weird variables that change the situation for people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Thread merge request!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxc5120 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I too am having acclimation problems in florida! ive been letting it sit out in my room and my room smells lovely but when you smell the shisha close up it doesnt smell right.. how did you fix your problem? step by step plz lol.And my flavor is bgb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frost91 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 the amount of gas youve used to reshock the shisha wouldve bought you a kilo plus shipping. Gas isnt cheap my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 QUOTE (cxc5120 @ Mar 13 2009, 04:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I too am having acclimation problems in florida! ive been letting it sit out in my room and my room smells lovely but when you smell the shisha close up it doesnt smell right.. how did you fix your problem? step by step plz lol.And my flavor is bgbBGB always smells a little funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 QUOTE (JDHarding @ Mar 13 2009, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Mmm.. I don't think so. I have 2 batches of Lucid BGB. The first one, from Hookah-Shisha, smelt like soy sauce and BBQ sauce. Kind of a sweet smell, but really it was stinky stuff. Smelt burnt.I got a second batch straight from Tangiers when they heard my first batch was so gross. This second batch smelt right. Smelt sweet. No soy sauce smell. Smoked great.Now, I'll admit, the first batch smokes fine and smells fine while smoking. But right out of the bag it smells fowl. So, I dunno..Anyone have a bad batch that smoked bad? That's really what we need to find out. If it actually SMOKES bad, not just smells bad. Somebody with Tang experience, smoke a bad batch, then smoke a good batch, and compare. If it's just smelly, then there's really nothing wrong with it.Curiouser and curiouser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1024 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 yeah my orange soda smelled great out of the bag, smoked it pretty much immediately, and then it unnaclimated itself. the first smoke was pretty good...not great but just good.also it was f-line...and i got sleepy from smoking it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I've never seen that here and we use a lot of our own tobacco and we check it frequently, each bin to make sure it smells and looks right...maybe it does have to do with smoking conditions, variable weather, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscani Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I have some BGB that I ordered months ago... I just open the container for an hour before I smoke mixing abut every 15-30 mins... smells awesome and smokes great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 next time i'm in california i'm going to try to meet up with eric so i can see what this stuff is supposed to taste like. i'm telling you, something funny happens when it goes across the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazar Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I'm having nothing but trouble with acclimation in winter time here in Norway. Both regular and lucid smokes great in the summer, but really crappy in the winter, even with several days of acclimation. Really sad, because it's my favorite baccy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hojo Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Just throwing it out there that BGB is the ONLY Tangiers flavor I have had trouble acclimating. I have nothing but love for Tangiers, but for some reason I can't get BGB to work for me. I'm not mad, as one wonky flavor out of the many I have tried and loved is a really good percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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