Jess Saes Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I noticed that a lot of people have different things to say on how to pack bowls. I also noticed that a lot of hookah smokers these days don't seem to know what they're talking about. I've seen people pack the piss out of their Egyptian bowls. Some break it up. Some just throw it in there and see what happens. So tell me what you think is the best way to pack an Egyptian bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 depends on what tobacco you are using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 depends on the tobacco. Al Fakher seems to like a lighter, looser, pack much better than something like nakhla, which seems to perform better with a tighter more dense kind of pack. different strokes for different folks really; i mean, if it works it works. the point of smoking the hookah is to enjoy the session and to have everything perform well, whatever means, not getting all tangled up in the 'rubrics' of head packing and pipe assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Saes Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (antouwan @ Apr 3 2009, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>depends on the tobacco. Al Fakher seems to like a lighter, looser, pack much better than something like nakhla, which seems to perform better with a tighter more dense kind of pack. different strokes for different folks really; i mean, if it works it works. the point of smoking the hookah is to enjoy the session and to have everything perform well, whatever means, not getting all tangled up in the 'rubrics' of head packing and pipe assembly.Right, Al Fakher is what I usually go for.And I understand that but I think knowing an efficient way to pack your shisha is important.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 AF - I pack it this way. Break it up and sprinkle it in about 1/4 inch above the rim and push it down with foil and poke deep holes through the foil towards the holes in the bottom of the bowl. Add Coals...smoke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Saes Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Stuie @ Apr 3 2009, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>AF - I pack it this way. Break it up and sprinkle it in about 1/4 inch above the rim and push it down with foil and poke deep holes through the foil towards the holes in the bottom of the bowl. Add Coals...smoke!That's all I need to know.ThanksHappy Birthday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilded777 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Personally, I have been having very good luck with the "pack the piss out of their Eqyptian" method; both with Nakhla and Al Fakher, though I will most likely stick to phunnels for wetter stuff like AF once I get my real phunnels (today! yippie!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Saes Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (evilded777 @ Apr 3 2009, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Personally, I have been having very good luck with the "pack the piss out of their Eqyptian" method; both with Nakhla and Al Fakher, though I will most likely stick to phunnels for wetter stuff like AF once I get my real phunnels (today! yippie!).I used to go that way but people kept telling me I was going to burn the shisha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Yeah nakhla i pack the crap out of on my Hemi and Saudi bowls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Packing Nakhla like tangiers in a phunnel has been working pretty well for me lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilded777 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 QUOTE (Jess Saes @ Apr 3 2009, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (evilded777 @ Apr 3 2009, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Personally, I have been having very good luck with the "pack the piss out of their Eqyptian" method; both with Nakhla and Al Fakher, though I will most likely stick to phunnels for wetter stuff like AF once I get my real phunnels (today! yippie!).I used to go that way but people kept telling me I was going to burn the shisha.People who burn shisha need to learn heat management, not packing. Trust me... I am one of those people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuburbanSmoker Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 AF is one of the most forgiving tobaccos imo. for the egyptian you can pack it damn near any way you want. most efficient way is stuies way no doubt. nakhla is more of a pack and pack method. but if your heat management sucks, theres not much a nicely packed bowl can do for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I usually grab a bunch, like the size of a golf ball, set it in the bowl, move it around to even it out, check it, recheck it, foil, smoke. Pretty easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majid Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I think the cut and moistness (right word?) is very important. Nakhla you can pack the hell out of, relatively coarsely cut, dry tobacco. With most Al Waha for example, medium cut, more moist stuff, it messes up the air flow when you overpack. Very wet or very finely cut tobacco can't be packed too tightly in my opinion, that hurts the airflow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaffaaf27 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 should the tobacco in af touch the foil?should i double layer it? i have 40mm 3king ql Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 if you dont know how to heat manage the no. and NO. I dont know why people insist this REALLY helps...it doesntbreak your coal in half and put them on opposite sides of the bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaffaaf27 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 can one school me on heat management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a cliche affair Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 QUOTE (shaffaaf27 @ Apr 5 2009, 04:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can one school me on heat management?Honestly, it's going to be a lot of trial and error until you find something that works for YOU.Many things can affect how much heat youll need including...+type and size of bowl+type of shisha+smoking outside vs. inside (there's no breeze inside to cool your bowl down)+type of coal used (different coals burn hotter/cooler)+packing and foiling methodWhen starting out, it's always best to start out with a little heat and work your way up until you're getting good smoke and flavor. If the bowl gets harsh you'll know it. If this happens, remove heat. Everyone has their own method that seems to work for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 QUOTE (Tom16689 @ Apr 3 2009, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Packing Nakhla like tangiers in a phunnel has been working pretty well for me lately.this has had the best results for me; i get impressive clouds with nakhla without adding anything to it. i just literally cram the shit out of it in there. the steps are as follows:1. add a bunch of nakhla2. cram/smush down3. repead steps 1 & 2 until you get to the rim, or a little above the rim4. add foil and smush5. make the foil taught6. holes7. ad 3 cocos to the small phunnel and enjoy the hell out of never burnt, always tasty, puffy, cotton candy-like clouds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilded777 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 QUOTE (shaffaaf27 @ Apr 5 2009, 05:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can one school me on heat management?Ok, bare in mind that I'm still a noob, but I've learned a lot in the last month or so here.take whatever coal you are using and figure out a way to split in halfignite the coal and wait for it to be going pretty well (little to no black left)place the two halves on the bowl, towards the edges, opposite each otherwait a few minutes (you many hear some sizzle, this is normal)rotate the coals around the bowl, meaning if you started with a half in the north and a half in the south, rotate so you have one in the east and one in the westTake a pull....or a fewHopefully, at this point you will have some good smoke. If you don't, you may need more coal. You shouldn't need more than 1 on most Egyptian bowls. A phunnel is a different story.YMMV, but this is what I have gathered from research here and experiments at home. And I am a much happier hookah smoker because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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