Heated Glass Screen?

[Mndgame]

With glass screens becoming a little more popular I was wondering if anyone has looked into the idea of embedding a heat coil inside of the glass screen thus removing the need for coals. I looked a little bit and didn't see this topic anywhere. Would remove the hassle of coal management and stuff and if it included a temperature adjustment readout that gave you degrees you could get each brand and bowl down to a science for heat. I guess since the glass screens required cleaning, it might not be practical to embed it rather to have it attachable and removable or even just sit on top? Anybody taken apart a hair dryer or anything and tried this? Similar idea to smoking out of a vaporizer just not that hot and with tobacco.

[ilikemyusername]

i'm sure its feasible, i personally dont care to have to plug in my pipe though, so i wouldn't want one.

[theophylaktos]

i'm sure its feasible, i personally dont care to have to plug in my pipe though, so i wouldn't want one.

I agree I would hate having to be tethered to a outlet.

[Mndgame]

True, I was thinking battery powered would be the way to go. I really haven't spent that much time thinking about it, but it doesn't seem like making something like this would be overly difficult.

[An1m]

Use coals

/thread

[Zinite]

True, I was thinking battery powered would be the way to go. I really haven't spent that much time thinking about it, but it doesn't seem like making something like this would be overly difficult.

Battery powered heating element? Good luck with that... Consider the fact that a hookah session can last 3 or 4 hours or more. You'd be spending more on batteries than you would if you were just using coals.

[Hippo_Master]

With glass screens becoming a little more popular I was wondering if anyone has looked into the idea of embedding a heat coil inside of the glass screen thus removing the need for coals. I looked a little bit and didn't see this topic anywhere. Would remove the hassle of coal management and stuff and if it included a temperature adjustment readout that gave you degrees you could get each brand and bowl down to a science for heat. I guess since the glass screens required cleaning, it might not be practical to embed it rather to have it attachable and removable or even just sit on top? Anybody taken apart a hair dryer or anything and tried this? Similar idea to smoking out of a vaporizer just not that hot and with tobacco.

HAHAHAHAHAAHHAAA



Edited April 4, 2009 by Hippo_Master

[Mndgame]

Yikes I didn't know hookah users were so against progressive thinking

Haha anyways, to the ban post I didn't mention any illegal substances, rather the idea of how vaporizers work would be similar to this.

Anyways, anybody have any constructive input other than /thread or /ban?

What temperature do normal coals usually heat at? Sounds like batteries may not be feasible then, so I guess it would potentially teather you to the length of an extension cord? I think this would remove any coal flavor, the need to buy coals, the lack of preciseness using coals, no coal management etc...

[mattarios2]

coals i believe get to around 4-500 degrees.

if you know what you are doing there is no coal flavor, precision with coals is part of the fun, makes it an art. I think the only thing ideas like this have going for it, is the idea that it would be healthier than the use of coals, every other marketing idea involved with this product towards hookah smokers is usually shot down, sorta like what i have said in the beginning of this post.

[Tom1]

Yikes I didn't know hookah users were so against progressive thinking

Haha anyways, to the ban post I didn't mention any illegal substances, rather the idea of how vaporizers work would be similar to this.

Anyways, anybody have any constructive input other than /thread or /ban?

I'd have to agree with hippo, it's still a reference. I don't even know why that had to be added at the end of the first post.

Don't try to squirm around rules, the mods don't like it very much.

[liquidglass]

Yikes I didn't know hookah users were so against progressive thinking

Haha anyways, to the ban post I didn't mention any illegal substances, rather the idea of how vaporizers work would be similar to this.

Anyways, anybody have any constructive input other than /thread or /ban?

What temperature do normal coals usually heat at? Sounds like batteries may not be feasible then, so I guess it would potentially teather you to the length of an extension cord? I think this would remove any coal flavor, the need to buy coals, the lack of preciseness using coals, no coal management etc...

Well we are open to new things, but we've all thought about this at one point or the other, and people have tried it lol.

Depending on the coals, they can go from 200-500 resting-smoking. So you would have to make sure your heating element heated when air passed over it, otherwise you'll burn the tobacco.


So you can see why we have skeptics, especially joining a glass screen and heating element together? Def. a monumental task.

[igman87]

Thermal potentiometer combined with an airflow sensor? Edited April 4, 2009 by igman87

[Majid]

^Cosign on most of that.

It would make smoking more convenient and a little cheaper, on the other hand it would lose some of its charm. No harm in trying though. Edited April 4, 2009 by Majid

[Sariél]

Thermal potentiometer combined with an airflow sensor?

a standard pot would work, with an air flow sensor triggering a bypass of the regulator, to provide full voltage on the draw. Don't know if you could get an element that is that fast acting, though.

And it would take a pretty large (hopefully) rechargeable battery pack to make anything near hot and fast enough. Probably need a wall wart.

Yeah, we've been through this discussion once or twice before...

[Scalliwag]

There are those coffee cup warmers/ candle warmers that have elements encased in ceramic. If they get hot enough you could drill some small holes being careful not to hit the element to allow airflow. Something like that may be better suited for a hookah table that may already have electrical to lighting or ? ran to it. I would want something very stable and any cords going across the floor should anchor to something before it comes near the hookah just in case someone catches it with their foot.

[JDHarding]

There are those coffee cup warmers/ candle warmers that have elements encased in ceramic. If they get hot enough you could drill some small holes being careful not to hit the element to allow airflow. Something like that may be better suited for a hookah table that may already have electrical to lighting or ? ran to it. I would want something very stable and any cords going across the floor should anchor to something before it comes near the hookah just in case someone catches it with their foot.

I'd think it wouldn't get hot enough for hookah. Hot enough for keeping coffee warm, but those little warmers don't get very hot. Though if you're planning to just use the ceramic plate with the coil inside, and building your own heating control, then nevermind.

[Scalliwag]

There are those coffee cup warmers/ candle warmers that have elements encased in ceramic. If they get hot enough you could drill some small holes being careful not to hit the element to allow airflow. Something like that may be better suited for a hookah table that may already have electrical to lighting or ? ran to it. I would want something very stable and any cords going across the floor should anchor to something before it comes near the hookah just in case someone catches it with their foot.

I'd think it wouldn't get hot enough for hookah. Hot enough for keeping coffee warm, but those little warmers don't get very hot. Though if you're planning to just use the ceramic plate with the coil inside, and building your own heating control, then nevermind.

Yes, I guess as early as it was in the morning and I was on acall with work BS I just not get that across very well. Rough night.
You would definately only get part of what you need from the warmer. I'd probably start off with a rheostat control but once I found the "sweet spot" I would measure the resistance and just use a resistor with that value.
The way I pack my bowls and setup my charcoal is always the same so I don't see needing much heat variable once it works right.
I'd also have some sort of cover and possibly something to conduct heat so that you would pull a larger volume of preheated air to make it a bit more consistant.
It would be interesting to try.

[SuburbanSmoker]

Everytime someone brings up non-coal heating elements for hookah i always just think to myself that the heating element would be really expensive, and basically force you to carry around an extension cord.

[JDHarding]

There are those coffee cup warmers/ candle warmers that have elements encased in ceramic. If they get hot enough you could drill some small holes being careful not to hit the element to allow airflow. Something like that may be better suited for a hookah table that may already have electrical to lighting or ? ran to it. I would want something very stable and any cords going across the floor should anchor to something before it comes near the hookah just in case someone catches it with their foot.

I'd think it wouldn't get hot enough for hookah. Hot enough for keeping coffee warm, but those little warmers don't get very hot. Though if you're planning to just use the ceramic plate with the coil inside, and building your own heating control, then nevermind.

Yes, I guess as early as it was in the morning and I was on acall with work BS I just not get that across very well. Rough night.
You would definately only get part of what you need from the warmer. I'd probably start off with a rheostat control but once I found the "sweet spot" I would measure the resistance and just use a resistor with that value.
The way I pack my bowls and setup my charcoal is always the same so I don't see needing much heat variable once it works right.
I'd also have some sort of cover and possibly something to conduct heat so that you would pull a larger volume of preheated air to make it a bit more consistant.
It would be interesting to try.

How about hookah shisha's mini wind cap?

http://www.hookah-shisha.com/store/pc/view...p;idproduct=536

I've used it on a glass screen and it sits right on the screen itself. Works beautifully, but the glass is very slippery so you can't bump the hookah even slightly or it falls to the floor.. with coals, screen, and everything.

That's the problem with glass screens.. so smooth and slippery. One of the reasons I don't use mine. It also gets crusted with crap too easily and requires a lot of cleaning. Also a problem for this idea. If the coil and ceramic cover thing were washable, then it might be worth investing. Make sure the coil can be easily disconnected from the heating control. And maybe use plastic zip-ties to tie any wiring to the hookah itself so things don't get snagged or tripped over. That would suck. Just imagine a portable coil falling on carpet. Whoosh! Fire. Or for my carpet, which is supposedly fire-proofed, it'd stink like mad and leave a nice big black spot.

[inino]

its already expensive, and questionable useless in my opinion at least, no offense mnh i still love your products. also they get too dirty if you dont scrub the fuck out of them after every use. I do like the idea but coals are still easier i think.

[jayeee07]

Yikes I didn't know hookah users were so against progressive thinking

Haha anyways, to the ban post I didn't mention any illegal substances, rather the idea of how vaporizers work would be similar to this.

Anyways, anybody have any constructive input other than /thread or /ban?

I'd have to agree with hippo, it's still a reference. I don't even know why that had to be added at the end of the first post.

Don't try to squirm around rules, the mods don't like it very much.

That rule is retarded though