ataneja Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 So yesterday I was smoking on my QT (I call her Gina), and I had the best smoke ever! I was smoking Fumari Rose, with just one three kings quick lite. I had no ice in the base (i think this is the first time I've done this). But the smoke was amazing, it was as if I had 1 1/2 coals on the hookah. I am wondering if the ice in the base, makes it hard to determine the correct level, bc it melts and increases as tie goes on. But yeah, random thought I decided to share! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spentkustard Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Yeah I have a mini hookah too and I dont use ice cubes alot for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halon Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 [quote name='ataneja']I am wondering if the ice in the base, makes it hard to determine the correct level, bc it melts and increases as tie goes on. But yeah, random thought [/quote] I haven't tried it out yet, but you can buy reusable ice cubes from bed bath and beyond. They have a plastic shell and have liquid inside, and I picked some up to try out for this very reason. Maybe I'll try it out today and see how it works. I don't have any experience with anything but water or plain ice cubes in the bowl, so hopefully there won't be a nasty plastic taste from the shell of the ice cubes. It doesn't seem like there should be, but that was my only worry. These [url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00076TP9E/002-2030407-1751225?v=glance&n=284507"]Ice cubes[/url] are similar to the ones I have. TYLER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeema Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 ice cubes dont really do it for me! - i think you should learn from this atenja and BIN the cubes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buford Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 [quote name='ataneja']I am wondering if the ice in the base, makes it hard to determine the correct level, bc it melts and increases as tie goes on.[/quote] Actually, the water level won't change any noticible amount, or if it does, it goes down. Ice is less dense than water, which is an oddity among solids. Ice cubes are small enough that although they float they tend to sit right at or just beneath the water surface, so they displace as much water as their entire size. When they melt, the water produced is denser and takes up less space.Water expands as it freezes, which anyone who has left a shisha outside in the cold overnight with water in it can tell you when they find a cracked base the next morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeema Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 [quote name='Buford']Water expands as it freezes, which anyone who has left a shisha outside in the cold overnight with water in it can tell you when they find a cracked base the next morning...[/quote]Yashman! ...then he taped it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 [quote name='Donkeema']Yashman! ...then he taped it up![/quote] Hey now, I put my base in the freezer for 20 minutes and then it cracked... Get your stories right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txbrit31 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Gave him an excuse for a new hookah though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Nah, like Don said, I used an epoxy on the outside of the vase over the crack, then wraped a few layers of ductape around it, then melted the ductape on with a bic lighter. It held up strong for a solid couple of months after that, but all it took was one ding against my kitchen sink while cleaning it to shatter... Then I just bought a replacement base from my local shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seandoo Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 About that whole ice changing the water level thing.. In physics a few semesters back, my professor said it's a neat parlor trick to put a decent amount of ice in a glass and fill it as much as you possibly can without having it overflow. The melted ice does nothing to change the level of the water - it's why melting glaciers won't cause something like Water World, but I still can't imagine melted glaciers being good for the environment... It's very true, the density does change - but the mass doesn't (I mean unless it's really hot and evaporates but that's a variable). 1 cup of ice isn't any more or less than 1cup of water =) it's just different form and density. If you're having trouble gauging how much ice/water to put into your base to get your usual level, just put the ice in first, then water up to where you need it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gib0r Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 You're wrong. It's not physics...it's Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpico Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Jesus is the man, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JByer323 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenWizard Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Why thank you!! (My real name is Jesus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seandoo Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 yesss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 At the risk of being...self-important...this thread could use some Tangiers!Gina, eh? Um, I'm going to avoid this one...Reusable ice cubes! The real ones are so hard to make and get, too!I wouldn't know, it doesn't freeze in San Diego.I'm surprised you didn't try to spot-weld it, Yash.As far as the ice-cube/water thing goes...Glaciers are land-based formations...if they melt, their water runs off to the ocean (eventually)I'm on Buford's and Seandoo's side. I've iced hookahs and had to add more water because the water level dropped below the bottom of the shank. Ice floats because it is less dense than water...something floats because...the weight of the water it displaces is greater than its own weight. Or, ice will displace the same amount of water it needs to float, so an ice cube floating will become as much water as the water it is displacing (which is less than its volume). On the other hand, if you fill a hookah jar up with ice and add water, the level will go down because the dyamics are different. The ice isn't floating at all...if you know what I mean...so the level will drop if ice is submerged by other ice! If this makes any sense, great, I am not entirely sure, I will have to look this up...sorry.The one that always gets me is if you have a ring of metal (Shaped like a round letter O ), and you heat up the metal, does the hole get bigger or smaller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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