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QUOTE (isis @ Apr 11 2009, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are there any company that accept pay pal for non tobacco products that they sell ?

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eBay? Are you talking about hookah stuff? I bought my hookah off eBay, granted it's nothing like these fancy name brand hookahs some of you have but it was affordable, and thats what mattered at the time (indeed still does).
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im talking about hoses. bowls etc for the hookah , all sites only take credit car but i dident know if i have missed the 1s that have paypal ?, i should of explained my self better but was in a rush writing it lol sorry people Edited by isis
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QUOTE (isis @ Apr 11 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im talking about hoses. bowls etc for the hookah , all sites only take credit car but i dident know if i have missed the 1s that have paypal ?, i should of explained my self better but was in a rush writing it lol sorry people


eBay auctions take paypal but you will probably have a harder time finding higher-quality name brand stuff on there. If you were unaware, any debit card featuring a VISA or MASTERCARD logo can be used as a credit card online (a lot of people know this already, but after working retail so many people were unaware!)
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I had no idea I can use my Visa Debit online....thanks for the info.
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QUOTE (giant ninja robot @ Apr 11 2009, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had no idea I can use my Visa Debit online....thanks for the info.


Whenever a debit features a credit card logo it can be used as a credit card- this is one reason you have such a long number on it (while the number on your checks for example is way shorter). You would enter the card just as any credit card, when it charges your account it can take a few days to show up as a charge, but it will charge just as a debit purchase would have. Just make sure you realize it won't show up instantly.

In fact, any time you use your debit card at the store and do not enter a PIN, it is running it as a credit card.

Talk to your bank for details biggrin.gif, I'm just a person on the interwebs after all tongue.gif.
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Ya, I used to work at Sears. We had one register that never would accept debit cards, so we would always just run them as credit. Also, sometimes we would have a customer who couldn't remember their PIN number, so we would just run it as a credit and let them sign (providing they had ID on them to verify against the name on the card). I love it when vendors accept Discover, makes my life soo much easier smile.gif .
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QUOTE (delSol_si @ Apr 11 2009, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ya, I used to work at Sears. We had one register that never would accept debit cards, so we would always just run them as credit. Also, sometimes we would have a customer who couldn't remember their PIN number, so we would just run it as a credit and let them sign (providing they had ID on them to verify against the name on the card). I love it when vendors accept Discover, makes my life soo much easier smile.gif .


Another tidbit for ya's. Most credit card companies actually have a policy against checking cards. They prefer their card have a reputation as being "super fast" and occasionally paying the associated fraud costs. I wondered about checking ID's as I normally didn't (I worked building materials, we mostly sold to account-holders so took cards only on small purchases normally) but after some big sales looked into it and found this is the common policy biggrin.gif.
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QUOTE (Vladimir @ Apr 11 2009, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (delSol_si @ Apr 11 2009, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ya, I used to work at Sears. We had one register that never would accept debit cards, so we would always just run them as credit. Also, sometimes we would have a customer who couldn't remember their PIN number, so we would just run it as a credit and let them sign (providing they had ID on them to verify against the name on the card). I love it when vendors accept Discover, makes my life soo much easier smile.gif .


Another tidbit for ya's. Most credit card companies actually have a policy against checking cards. They prefer their card have a reputation as being "super fast" and occasionally paying the associated fraud costs. I wondered about checking ID's as I normally didn't (I worked building materials, we mostly sold to account-holders so took cards only on small purchases normally) but after some big sales looked into it and found this is the common policy biggrin.gif .


Yeah, I work I.T. for a woman's clothing store. We've had a few people complain about people asking for ID. It's against VISA's merchant agreement to ask for ID a credit card purchase as a condition of the sale. You're only allowed to match the signature on the receipt against the signature on the card. If that doesn't match you're not suppose to sell to them. And if you suspect it's a fraudulent transaction there's a VISA number you can call and give yes or no answers on the description of the person using it and visa will alert the police. Also VISA handles the fraud invistigation if it turns out to be CC fraud, that's why you're not suppose to take unsigned cards no matter what becuase it holds the user in to the VISA contract.

It's also against their agreement to have a minimum purchase amount to use a card and to charge an extra fee for useing a card (although you can give a "cash discount".)
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QUOTE (xipander @ Apr 11 2009, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Vladimir @ Apr 11 2009, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (delSol_si @ Apr 11 2009, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ya, I used to work at Sears. We had one register that never would accept debit cards, so we would always just run them as credit. Also, sometimes we would have a customer who couldn't remember their PIN number, so we would just run it as a credit and let them sign (providing they had ID on them to verify against the name on the card). I love it when vendors accept Discover, makes my life soo much easier smile.gif .


Another tidbit for ya's. Most credit card companies actually have a policy against checking cards. They prefer their card have a reputation as being "super fast" and occasionally paying the associated fraud costs. I wondered about checking ID's as I normally didn't (I worked building materials, we mostly sold to account-holders so took cards only on small purchases normally) but after some big sales looked into it and found this is the common policy biggrin.gif .


Yeah, I work I.T. for a woman's clothing store. We've had a few people complain about people asking for ID. It's against VISA's merchant agreement to ask for ID a credit card purchase as a condition of the sale. You're only allowed to match the signature on the receipt against the signature on the card. If that doesn't match you're not suppose to sell to them. And if you suspect it's a fraudulent transaction there's a VISA number you can call and give yes or no answers on the description of the person using it and visa will alert the police. Also VISA handles the fraud invistigation if it turns out to be CC fraud, that's why you're not suppose to take unsigned cards no matter what becuase it holds the user in to the VISA contract.

It's also against their agreement to have a minimum purchase amount to use a card and to charge an extra fee for useing a card (although you can give a "cash discount".)


You are probably right. And it really depended on the register. Sometimes, when the register was really fucking up (usually when the slide reader wouldn't work and we had to manually enter the card number), it would REQUIRE us to enter all their info off the ID, if the machine didn't prompt us, we usually didn't bother.
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QUOTE (delSol_si @ Apr 12 2009, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (xipander @ Apr 11 2009, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Vladimir @ Apr 11 2009, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (delSol_si @ Apr 11 2009, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ya, I used to work at Sears. We had one register that never would accept debit cards, so we would always just run them as credit. Also, sometimes we would have a customer who couldn't remember their PIN number, so we would just run it as a credit and let them sign (providing they had ID on them to verify against the name on the card). I love it when vendors accept Discover, makes my life soo much easier smile.gif .


Another tidbit for ya's. Most credit card companies actually have a policy against checking cards. They prefer their card have a reputation as being "super fast" and occasionally paying the associated fraud costs. I wondered about checking ID's as I normally didn't (I worked building materials, we mostly sold to account-holders so took cards only on small purchases normally) but after some big sales looked into it and found this is the common policy biggrin.gif .


Yeah, I work I.T. for a woman's clothing store. We've had a few people complain about people asking for ID. It's against VISA's merchant agreement to ask for ID a credit card purchase as a condition of the sale. You're only allowed to match the signature on the receipt against the signature on the card. If that doesn't match you're not suppose to sell to them. And if you suspect it's a fraudulent transaction there's a VISA number you can call and give yes or no answers on the description of the person using it and visa will alert the police. Also VISA handles the fraud invistigation if it turns out to be CC fraud, that's why you're not suppose to take unsigned cards no matter what becuase it holds the user in to the VISA contract.

It's also against their agreement to have a minimum purchase amount to use a card and to charge an extra fee for useing a card (although you can give a "cash discount".)


You are probably right. And it really depended on the register. Sometimes, when the register was really fucking up (usually when the slide reader wouldn't work and we had to manually enter the card number), it would REQUIRE us to enter all their info off the ID, if the machine didn't prompt us, we usually didn't bother.



We're you entering it directly in to the register or in to a standalone device (like a paymentech which is owned by JP Morgan/Chase and is a stand alone box plugged in to a phone line that calls a 1800 number and processes it right away which you only have to enter the amount and the card number on.) If it was in to the register, that would be detirmined by who made the PoS software. Most of the older ones would have you enter the full number, but becuase of the recent (in the past few years) PCI standard (the Payment Card Industry security guidelines sponsored by VISA) you're not allowed to store the full CC number after processing. Which most processing banks will give you a discount if you proccess immediately vs. storing all the numbers and doing a big process at the end of the day. Also you're not suppose to print the last 4 digits _and_ the expiration date on reciepts anymore. Most places still do but you're suppose to print one or the other, although you can store the last 4 and the expiration, but you can't store the check digits/security number on the back after processing.

I say all this because we went thru an audit about a year ago and they reemed our asses and VISA almost pulled our account, since then we've been on a major deplotment replacing hardware and software and upgrading all of our stores and changing our whole process, and it's getting to be a pain in the ass.
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To directly answer your question, just call the vendor.

I asked H-S on their online help if they accepted paypal on non-tobacco purchases a while back and they told me yes.

This may have changed since then.

It will not be a payment option but they may be able to work something out with you.
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