Olivewood Micro Phunnel

[Scalliwag]

I decided to see if this would work and it did Very nice flavor and gobs of smoke. The pens are olivewood as well that Larry the Wood Guy made for my wife and I. He freekin ROCKS!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuIF03r6AgE

[inino]

yes first view!! sweet bowl scalli. seems like it would be even better too as the flavors start soaking into the bowl.

[JOE]

are you smoking flavors out of it? zag?

[Victim026]

Interesting concept I may have to see if i can find some bigger olivewood blanks to let ya'll go crazy on, has any progress been made towards the custom hoses? I'm comin up on needing a new washable hose

[Scalliwag]

yes first view!! sweet bowl scalli. seems like it would be even better too as the flavors start soaking into the bowl.

Thanks. The wood smells really nice when you cut it. Very dense stuff. The way I understand it there is a type of oil like olive oil the wood is saturated with. Hell, it may be olive oil.

are you smoking flavors out of it? zag?

Starbuzz but I can't remember what the flavor is called. I'm out of peach

Interesting concept I may have to see if i can find some bigger olivewood blanks to let ya'll go crazy on, has any progress been made towards the custom hoses? I'm comin up on needing a new washable hose

Larry is making sections. He's got some really nice stuff going. We'll have some pics up real soon.

[delSol_si]

"Looks like a shit load of smoke to me" Haha, that made me laugh. I would really like to smoke with you sometime. What foil deal are you using? Doesn't look normal. Why did you pick olive wood?

[Johnny_D]

congrats man

when are you going to market some of this stuff so I can try it?!

JD

[theophylaktos]

That is awesome. I would definitely love to try one. Great job.

[Rani]

Yummy..... Most people end up sticking to about a half dozen flavors generally, so I could definitely see having a bowl for each flavor and it just soaking deeper and deeper into the wood over time until it's just saturated with flavor.....You might need to add some of them to your stuff you're offering!

'Rani

[JOE]

thats awesome, any pics straight down the top? it looks really well made, i wonder if the flavors will ghost bad because of the wood

[Rani]

Yummy..... Most people end up sticking to about a half dozen flavors generally, so I could definitely see having a bowl for each flavor and it just soaking deeper and deeper into the wood over time until it's just saturated with flavor.....You might need to add some of them to your stuff you're offering!

'Rani

ADD: I posted before I watched the video and after watching it really want one. I love the fit with the 33mm coal and the fact that it's a smaller phunnel would be perfect for someone like me who smokes all the time and mostly alone while I'm doing something else.

'Rani

(Oh! And I was the (or one of the) people talking about the depth of the Mya bowl on a recent thread. You ol' flatterer you!)

[redjako]

I shudder in agony of anticipation when Scalli discovers coals outside of quick lite (crapolla) coals, and graduates to natural's, and destroys the world of hookah as we know it.

BURNS TO THE GROUND THE FALLACIES OF ARCHETYPTUAL (word? haha) HOOKAH SMOKING, ERIC IS IN AWE, AND TANGIERS BECOMES SCALLIGIERS!!!!


...naturals


Bowl sound good though.

[Scalliwag]

I would really like to smoke with you sometime. What foil deal are you using? Doesn't look normal. Why did you pick olive wood?

I always like meeting folks so if you ever get out thiw way gimme a holler.
The precut foil I use engulfed the bowl so I trimmer it with a razor.
I picked olive wood for several reasons. Mainly after I read it was right on up there with briar as one of the best woods for tobacco. The next that it is gorgeous wood and the next it's history. Olive oil is my favorite oil to cook with and it was Popeye's galpal

congrats man

when are you going to market some of this stuff so I can try it?!

JD

ARRRR JD!!! We're getting the ducks in a row. I'm thinking these would be $40. It sounds a bit high but the wood is not cheap and they're a pain in the ass to make. I have to read the rules regarding selling stuff when it comes to the forum. We have some stuff ready but I've never been given a vacation and their not as fun as the word implies is my guess

That is awesome. I would definitely love to try one. Great job.

thanks

Yummy..... Most people end up sticking to about a half dozen flavors generally, so I could definitely see having a bowl for each flavor and it just soaking deeper and deeper into the wood over time until it's just saturated with flavor.....You might need to add some of them to your stuff you're offering!

'Rani

I'm curious about that too. I think that you would want to only smoke favorite flavors until it got conditioned. Wiping the inside with a light layer of olive oil may make cleaning and ghosting less of a problem. I need to see what cleaning this is like.

thats awesome, any pics straight down the top? it looks really well made, i wonder if the flavors will ghost bad because of the wood

No top pics yet. I'll get some probably today and let you see how that is done. The phunnel is an aluminum tube so you can adjust the height and remove it which should make cleaning it as well as the bowl easier

Yummy..... Most people end up sticking to about a half dozen flavors generally, so I could definitely see having a bowl for each flavor and it just soaking deeper and deeper into the wood over time until it's just saturated with flavor.....You might need to add some of them to your stuff you're offering!

'Rani

ADD: I posted before I watched the video and after watching it really want one. I love the fit with the 33mm coal and the fact that it's a smaller phunnel would be perfect for someone like me who smokes all the time and mostly alone while I'm doing something else.

'Rani

(Oh! And I was the (or one of the) people talking about the depth of the Mya bowl on a recent thread. You ol' flatterer you!)

Less coals is nice A little heat concentrator may make management easier to get more miles per coal. And yes I remember seeing your posts on that bowl now.
Did that guy ever make the vid he was talking about?

I shudder in agony of anticipation when Scalli discovers coals outside of quick lite (crapolla) coals, and graduates to natural's, and destroys the world of hookah as we know it.

I really like the coconaras but I need to order another box. My local shop doesn't carry them but they carry everything else I use.

[Giant Ninja Robot]

Concern, Scalli, ok firwst off very very very cool idea and execution...

now concern. As a briar pipe smoker th3e idea is thsat one builds up a cake that increases a good heat and keeps the bowl from eventually cracking, and brair ia TOUGH stuff. So how would this bowl manage over time? I would imagine that one could clean it to avoid an unwanted buildup after every session, especially with a tobacco like Nakhla that tends to leave a hard tough residue. However wouldn't the heat eventually crack the bowl?

Granted I have NO concept of how different the heat is from briar to shisha bowl, I'm assuming the shisha bowl probably holds much less heat.

Just some random thoughts, but you amaze again dear Scalli.

[outbreakpb]

looks BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!! good job!

[Scalliwag]

Concern, Scalli, ok firwst off very very very cool idea and execution...

now concern. As a briar pipe smoker th3e idea is thsat one builds up a cake that increases a good heat and keeps the bowl from eventually cracking, and brair ia TOUGH stuff. So how would this bowl manage over time? I would imagine that one could clean it to avoid an unwanted buildup after every session, especially with a tobacco like Nakhla that tends to leave a hard tough residue. However wouldn't the heat eventually crack the bowl?

Granted I have NO concept of how different the heat is from briar to shisha bowl, I'm assuming the shisha bowl probably holds much less heat.

Just some random thoughts, but you amaze again dear Scalli.

I really don't know for certain but I have a theory. When you smoke out of a tobacco pipe you directy light the tobacco and it burns directy in the bowl all the way to the bottom. My theory is that is much more harsh on the wood than our coal heating method. Again it's only theory. With the bowl having a 1/4" wall thickness I don't want to thin the area much where the tobacco chamber is and especially at the lip.
But only time will really tell. My gut feeling is when cleaning to use a plastic knife or something less prone to gouging the walls.

looks BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!! good job!

thanks!

[Zyram]

looks awesome, one of those things you'd pull out on the special occasions to awe the guests =) My only concern would be cleanup and ghosting, for me 40$ a bowl is too much to get one for each of several different flavors, so I'd want to make sure it doesn't ghost too much. I'd definitely pick one up though, beautiful bowl Scalli! I'm still really looking forward to some of your Herbal shisha too! Keep up the good work man, you come up with so much hookah stuff it's amazing.

-Z

[Scalliwag]

looks awesome, one of those things you'd pull out on the special occasions to awe the guests =) My only concern would be cleanup and ghosting, for me 40$ a bowl is too much to get one for each of several different flavors, so I'd want to make sure it doesn't ghost too much. I'd definitely pick one up though, beautiful bowl Scalli! I'm still really looking forward to some of your Herbal shisha too! Keep up the good work man, you come up with so much hookah stuff it's amazing.

-Z

Thanks Z. If I can get the wood cheaper and come up with an easier way of making them I'd come down on the price and give peeps that paid the $40 a discount to offset for the first one. So if they went to $30 I'd let a previous buyer buy one at $20 for every one they paid $40 for.
At least it seems like a fair deal that way. I wouldn't just send them $10 back though because right now it's still a pain in the ass to make them.

A stiff toothbrush or a brass one for cleaning seems the work well. The very top discolor from the heat but it looks kinda cool. I'm trying to find a brass or stainless sewing thimble but on Easter nothing is open. The ones at Walmart are POS zinc plated and plastic ones I want to make the phunnel mod with one of them.
I have another idea I'm gonna try with it and if it works it will be neat as hell.

Still playing with the herbal as well. No new news there.

[TizaNabi]

In Jordan,Greece and here in Israel you can get anything made out of olive wood cheap. Nice idea!

[Scalliwag]

In Jordan,Greece and here in Israel you can get anything made out of olive wood cheap. Nice idea!

I bet. It's kind of like mesquite here is Texas. Except the odd thing is that when you buy milled mesquite they are as proud of the shit as oak I'm hoping my buddy that is leaving Abu Dhabi shortly for Jordan gets a good hookup with someone there that we can get olivewood from.
It cost me $25 for a 2x2x12 in piece. So each section for a bowl is $6.25. Add that to lathe time, sawing drilling polishing time, add the tubing and the mod So it's mostly the time it takes to make one that is the real drag.
But $6.25 for the little chunk of wood that goes into them is a bit excessive too

[Scalliwag]

this is a pretty neat ass trick. It's not taking much shisha or coal and now there is no more messing with foil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXm7LVTjFyw

[Rani]

You guys are talking about ghosting like it's always a bad thing. In this case I don't think it would be. Like some people keep one pipe or hose just for DA...... Just as the best cured casks are reused for wine and whiskey because the ghosting actually intensifies the flavor. Imagine a peach saturated bowl, hmmmm! As far as the cost and life of the bowl, I think you'd have longer life. Scalli, you mentioned about $40.00. The average ceramic Egyptian is running about $7.00 and phunnels are running $14.00 I believe. Jets are $50.00 All of these have one thing in common: Drop 'em on the ground once and you're buying a new one in a hurrry! So I can see someone buying one of these plus a ceramic or jet and having the wood bowl outlive the breakables by a very long time.

'Rani

[outbreakpb]

this is a pretty neat ass trick. It's not taking much shisha or coal and now there is no more messing with foil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXm7LVTjFyw

you are one crafty son of a gun!!!! nice

[Scalliwag]

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You guys are talking about ghosting like it's always a bad thing. In this case I don't think it would be. Like some people keep one pipe or hose just for DA...... Just as the best cured casks are reused for wine and whiskey because the ghosting actually intensifies the flavor. Imagine a peach saturated bowl, hmmmm! As far as the cost and life of the bowl, I think you'd have longer life. Scalli, you mentioned about $40.00. The average ceramic Egyptian is running about $7.00 and phunnels are running $14.00 I believe. Jets are $50.00 All of these have one thing in common: Drop 'em on the ground once and you're buying a new one in a hurrry! So I can see someone buying one of these plus a ceramic or jet and having the wood bowl outlive the breakables by a very long time.

'Rani

Definately pros and cons with the con being $40 for a damn bowl and the unknowns as far as knowing for sure they would not eventually crack. I kinda doubt it but I've doubted a lot of thing and been wrong.
You have some valid points as always Rani. The pros are a lot less shisha and less coals. If you are using less shisha for the same or better quality of smoke you save more per use. But more people have to validate any claim I make.
As fast as I go thru 250g of SB Peach at $20 a pop I can see it saving me money

you are one crafty son of a gun!!!! nice

thanks! Remedial inventions are my specialty It would be nice to make something really really coo someday My wife does not appreciate the beauty of hookah stuff

I took some pics of the 3 I had enough material to do. I'm really happy with the results on them. Larry is going to take pics with his high-end camera. These pics do not do the wood justice.

thanks! Edited April 12, 2009 by Scalliwag

[Giant Ninja Robot]

Scalli, that large bowl on the right is absolutely beautiful. Something about woodcraft and woodworking just gets me happy, I think it has to do with my dad being a woodworker of sorts. Genetics and whatnot.

Sorry I wasn't as elaborate with the praise as the concerns in the earlier post but I was in a huryy and when I see new ideas my brain goes into overdrive thinking of the pros and cons etc etc.

At any rate, great work, I think once you roll out some of this stuff into the market and start making some dough your wife may change her tune And if it helps out, as commiseration often will, my wife bless her soul has had enough of my hookah mutterings as well


A hearty pat on the back to ya sir You're an HF inspiration!