Sonthert Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I was bored, apparently, and I started wondering what the average rating for a couple of brands of tobacco were (including Tangiers). So I ran averages. Its been about seven hours, now, so don't fault me if I made a mistake. I posted the totals at the current end of the brands I ran averages for. I also am tired enough that I'm not going to run the averages for a couple of worthy brands (2+ pages of reviews) now, but maybe later. This is purely for fun, and for informational purposes.Here's the results:EDITED TO ADD MORE BRAND AVERAGES 4/12/09Tangiers Lucid 41 Reviews, Average 8.8/10Tangiers & Tangiers F-Line 219 Reviews, Average 8.52/10Tonic 33 Reviews, Average: 8.213/10Starbuzz 279 reviews, Average: 8.209/10Hookah Freak 31 Reviews, Average 8.18/10Fusion 58 Reviews, Average 8.05/10Epic 28 Reviews, Average 7.91/10Fantasia 131 Reviews, Average: 7.85/10Potion 70 Reviews, Average: 7.81/10Layalina 158 Reviews, Average 7.69/10Layalina Gold 11 Reviews, Average 7.61/10Pharoah's 48 Reviews, Average 7.59/10Fumari 82 Reviews, Average 7.57/10Al Fakher 301 Reviews, Average 7.56/10Nahkla 224 Reviews, Average 7.49/10Saalaam NT 21 Reviews, Average 7.29/10Romman 158 Reviews, Average: 7.16/10Havana 51 Reviews, Average 6.92/10Al Amir 44 Reviews, Average 6.85/10Hookah Hookah 169 Reviews, Average: 6.60/10Soex NT 57 Reviews, Average: 6.17/10King 20 Responses, Average 5.88/10Afzal 27 Reviews, Average: 5.95/10Check out the Poll Who Makes the Very Best Hookah Tobacco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColibriDon Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Tangiers to the top! Starbuzz is higher than I expected....and so is Hookah Freak. Nakhla deserves to be higher though. Nice little chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Looks about right to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santino Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Also look at how many reviews each received.. that would explain why Epic and Hookah Freak are so high up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 QUOTE (Santino @ Apr 12 2009, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Also look at how many reviews each received.. that would explain why Epic and Hookah Freak are so high up.yeah i agree as to why they are so high up.Nak should be higher, easily top 3 ... AT LEAST! hehNice work Eric, but i think anything with less than 50-60 ratings should be DQ'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye bye now have fun Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 actually it should show std dev and the number of people that reviewed it. i have a feeling that only 1 or 2 people reviews epics and hookah freak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuburbanSmoker Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 lol afzal is where it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imsomint Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 There should be a way to calculate this based upon total reviews/individual reviews or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbs Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I agree with Matt, Nakhla should be within the top 3 or 4, preceded by the good ol tang. I was surprised by some of the brands that beat it.Nice work Sonthert, took a lot of effort I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilded777 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Thanks for this... that's cool to know.Makes me want to try some other brands... though they need to be DAMN good based on the price of some of them.I, too, think Nahkla should be higher... I mean c'mon, its a great smoke with lots of flavor and you can't beat the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) Whoa, that must have taken a while! Thanks for the hard work I think the deal with Nakhla is that the vast majority of the reviews were written long before the Nakhla Renaissance, when the baccy was thought to be cheap and sub-par. Hell, even I used to dislike it after finding out about other brands.Anyway that's the ways the numbers appear. Just goes to show you that statistics don't mean jack.edit: forgot to add that Tangiers is where it should be, but what happened to SOEX? Edited April 12, 2009 by erufiku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Apr 12 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Santino @ Apr 12 2009, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Also look at how many reviews each received.. that would explain why Epic and Hookah Freak are so high up.yeah i agree as to why they are so high up.Nak should be higher, easily top 3 ... AT LEAST! hehNice work Eric, but i think anything with less than 50-60 ratings should be DQ'd.I beg to differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinMoose Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 This goes to show that WE NEED MORE LUCID FLAVORS. White GrapeRed TeaBlueberry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplexCoda Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 QUOTE (SmokinMoose @ Apr 12 2009, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This goes to show that WE NEED MORE LUCID FLAVORS. White GrapeRed TeaBlueberryI agree, if lucid is so up there in our eyes, why no more flavors? Please Please Please Eric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) These results show some problems in the rating system..Not enough people rated each tobacco. I think, for more accurate overall scores, you should pair all the tobaccos that got 300+ ratings with each other, then all 200s, 100s, 10s, etc. Too many unpopular tobaccos are rated higher than popular ones due to a lack of raters. Like this:Tangiers & Tangiers F-Line 219 Reviews, Average 8.52/10Starbuzz 279 reviews, Average: 8.21/10Al Fakher 301 Reviews, Average 7.56/10Nahkla 224 Reviews, Average 7.49/10Fantasia 131 Reviews, Average: 7.85/10Layalina 158 Reviews, Average 7.69/10Hookah Hookah 169 Reviews, Average: 6.60/10Tangiers Lucid 41 Reviews, Average 8.8/10Hookah Freak 31 Reviews, Average 8.18/10Fusion 58 Reviews, Average 8.05/10Epic 28 Reviews, Average 7.91/10Layalina Gold 11 Reviews 7.61/10Fumari 82 Reviews, Average 7.57/10Havana 51 Reviews, Average 6.92/10Al Amir 44 Reviews, Average 6.85/10Afzal 27 Reviews, Average: 5.95/10King 20 Responses, 5.88/10 Edited April 12, 2009 by JDHarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 well done...should be stickied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 QUOTE (r1v3th3ad @ Apr 12 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>well done...should be stickieddon't even try that with Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunK Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 hookah freak is prob some of my favorite shisha. i love scooby snacks haha. it tastes like cookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 That's pretty close to how I rate shisha1) Starbuzz2) Tangiers3) Al Fakher4) Fantasia5) Fumari6) al Waha7) Havana8) frozen cow shit12) nahkla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 results sound about right, although some should be lower and some a little higher imo. nahkla higher, lucid higher, and HH, HF, lower. just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayeee07 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I've only tried starbuzz and AF What should I try next? Don't worry about price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchard Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 QUOTE (jayeee07 @ Apr 12 2009, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've only tried starbuzz and AF What should I try next? Don't worry about priceTangiers and Nakhla, if you are down for a buzz. Check out the reviews to see what people like. There are some good and not so good from both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 QUOTE (voski @ Apr 12 2009, 12:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Apr 12 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Santino @ Apr 12 2009, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Also look at how many reviews each received.. that would explain why Epic and Hookah Freak are so high up.yeah i agree as to why they are so high up.Nak should be higher, easily top 3 ... AT LEAST! hehNice work Eric, but i think anything with less than 50-60 ratings should be DQ'd.I beg to differ.Differ with what? Nice Work? Something less than 50-60 rating should be DQ'd? Why Epic ad Hookah Freak are so high up? Erufiku:I think somebody said something about stickieding something...I'll get the glue...this time I'm stickying you to the top of the page. I calculated Romman, Soex, Tonic, Potion, Pharoahs and Saalaam and added them to the chart.This should be pretty much inclusive.I though for about two minutes what should be the cut off should be, and I decided, based on the way the review pages were set up, it would be easiest to review brands with more than one page of reviews...or ones I was interested in. Notice that there are some brands with a relatively few reviews, but poor reviews. I also noticed that some brands, especially ones with few reviews, but good averages, tend to have more suspicious reviews. A guy has five posts, three of them in the XYZ Brand reviews, the other posts being like "I like ice in my jar." How can we objectively take that into account...I don't think you can. I almost put down my estimate for the number of suspicious positive reviews, like "none", "A few", etc. I looked at Tangiers and there were some suspicious reviews posts, too. Since I know I'm not bribing trolls to post reviews, I can only believe that they are honest, and that other ones might be, too. This is just for fun, its not serious...YES! I WIN! [shit...did I forget to erase that?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 this isnt even a realistic list. king molassel, afzal, hookah hookah, hookah freak ...all over 5? are you joking. no one gives tobaccos 1s and 2s...which is what they deserve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Ninja Robot Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 My problem with the results is that numerical ratings are so subjective that I and a few others I've noticed don't rate with a number but rather give purely descriptive opinions and experiences, so it's less an issue with the results and more an issue with no hard numbers due to such subjectivity (experience, hardware, skill level, bla bla bla) existing in a shisha review.We should have one dude with an exeptional palate rate all the flavors of every brand out there, pro bono of course. I nominate me Also people tend not to review average or bad flavors as much as the good and great from what I've read.However it's interesting to see the results, thanks for doing this Eric.Sad that Nakhla is somehow lower than Epic, Layalina, and especially HF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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