shisharob777 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Would it really matter for smoke and flavor on the hookah pipe you use, i have a 30 inch one that i bought in the middle east, just got a phunnel bowl which i will be testing out. But what would by the difference if i had a mya or a ice torrent, would there be a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermo Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I think what would matter would be the ID of the stem, the bowl type, and the overall air-tightness of the system.I have a suspicion that bigger pipes were important in the old days, when the tobacco was actually burned and smoked, but it's not as much of a concern with modern shishas and vaporization. The vapor will almost never be as hot as real smoke would, so I think it doesn't necessarily need all the extra cooling.Ice here and there will still affect the condensation of the glycerine vapor, so there might be something to cooling still, but I think it's less of an issue than it once was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (Thermo @ Apr 14 2009, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have a suspicion that bigger pipes were important in the old days, when the tobacco was actually burned and smoked, but it's not as much of a concern with modern shishas and vaporization. The vapor will almost never be as hot as real smoke would, so I think it doesn't necessarily need all the extra cooling.I'm no expert or super experienced (nor were the other people loading the bowls I smoked) but in my experience the smoke from a small hookah is never as satisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermo Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (Vladimir @ Apr 14 2009, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Thermo @ Apr 14 2009, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have a suspicion that bigger pipes were important in the old days, when the tobacco was actually burned and smoked, but it's not as much of a concern with modern shishas and vaporization. The vapor will almost never be as hot as real smoke would, so I think it doesn't necessarily need all the extra cooling.I'm no expert or super experienced (nor were the other people loading the bowls I smoked) but in my experience the smoke from a small hookah is never as satisfying.I'm not either. I only have one hookah, and it is pretty big. But I've heard some folks say small is actually better for some reaon or another. I would think ice in the base on a small pipe would be about the same as a biger one with no ice - the ice making up for the loss in cooling area.Big ones look more aesthetically pleasing to me though. If I were giving myself advice, I would say the biggest factors are looks and durability, something that's not going to rust or fall apart. Size would be lower on my list of priorities, unless it affected the overall appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisharob777 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 I think its funny how allot of people go on what type of hookah they have, when i was in Egypt i used to goto the hookah bars, they were using crappy pipes, around 25 inches, but we used to get huge clouds, they weren't using phunnel bowls or QLs, pure small coals and normal bowls. I bought the same type of pipes they were using, which is air tight, 25-30 inches, and i big base. One thing though, would rust effect it at all, there is no rust in the stem but im seeing rust in the valve and hose connector? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (Thermo @ Apr 14 2009, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm not either. I only have one hookah, and it is pretty big. But I've heard some folks say small is actually better for some reaon or another. I would think ice in the base on a small pipe would be about the same as a biger one with no ice - the ice making up for the loss in cooling area.My main differences I have seen are not taste/harsh/hot smoke but rather amount of smoke. I get much more satisfying clouds from the bigger hookahs (in my experience of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 different sized hose ports and different gauages allow for different hits off the hookah, but essentially if it is leak free it should be able to provide you nice smoke regardless what material it is made of. brass pipes will last forever though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang_steve Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 The hose needs to be matched to the stem's allowed flowrate...it's all a system...the right hose on the right stem with teh right bowl makes an incredible smoke.That said, if the stem flows like a KM, get a KM hose...if it's less, get a lesser hose.Now....all that matters for the whole hookah is if it smokes well, and some really crappy looking/gehtto rigged pipes can smoke great. Just the forum is full of enthusiasts, and we like having pretty things to look at while smoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisharob777 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 Im gona try my pipe with a phunnel bowl, golden layalina and 3 kings and see what i get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 to answer this thread... yes and no, such as... i used to have a KM Hafa, it got ganked and i bought a Magdy Zidan Nefertiti, not having the pipes back to back i could not say wich one smokes better, i just know they both smoke great, i also have a Mya QT and it smokes very nicely as well, as well as i had a rotator a while back that i thougth smoked well, until i got my second pepe wich was a no-name egyptian that smoked better than the rotator, but then got the KM and it was better still.my point is, a small one can smoke as well as a big one, as long as its the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 QUOTE (Vladimir @ Apr 14 2009, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm no expert or super experienced (nor were the other people loading the bowls I smoked) but in my experience the smoke from a small hookah is never as satisfying.Try a small MYA rig like the Bambino or QT. I have the former and the smoke it produces on par with my KMs. Minus the purge, of course.To answer OP's question, it doesn't really matter as long as your hookah is high quality. In my experience, shoddy egyptians can't compare with machine made MYAs. Non-brand name hookahs can, of course, compare with brands like KM and MYA, but the reason people go for the brand is that it's a guarantee of quality. They also last forever, so even paying double the price works out in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 It all depends on the quality of them. They sell low quality hookahs in the Middle East, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisharob777 Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 Yea i spent around 10$ on the one i bought in egypt, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSexyPanda Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I guess you have to be a little bit more specific with your question, but for me, as far as a huge difference, I don't really see one. I got the mini mya on clearance from hookah-shisha and I got a 38" KM exotica from a store nearby and yeah the KM is smoother and easier to pull, but from both of them I can get pretty nice clouds and the flavor's there. I like using the mini because it's small and I can still get an awesome smoke session from it without all of the bulk and cleanup. I think the more important thing is just having a good bowl with some good tobacco and knowing how to make it smoke right. Everything else is personal preference if you like having colder smoke or an easier pull, but my razan sultan on my mini mya is pretty damn smooth for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10ryno Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I have 2 30" egyptians and my friend has a small 18" egyptian that we use to walk around with at parties. The only difference we've ever noticed is the difference in the amount of smoke you get from the larger ones to the smaller one and that the 18" tends to get harsh hits more often than the 30's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1024 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 there actually is a difference health wise.a bigger hookah means more particle filtration on the walls of the downstem. it also means more space for the smoke cool, thus helping to deactivate some carcinogens you dont want.http://books.google.com/books?id=0bsEmZul3...lt&resnum=9this article hints at what i mean, but i can not seem to find the one that said specifically what i meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1024 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 lol /topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 For $10, I'd guess its low quality. Highly likely. I've seen stuff from the Middle East in the $5-$15 range, pretty much POS-time. Most of the pipes we call "good" sell for $25-$50 in the Middle East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myasaray.com Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 QUOTE (erufiku @ Apr 15 2009, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Vladimir @ Apr 14 2009, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm no expert or super experienced (nor were the other people loading the bowls I smoked) but in my experience the smoke from a small hookah is never as satisfying.Try a small MYA rig like the Bambino or QT. I have the former and the smoke it produces on par with my KMs. Minus the purge, of course.To answer OP's question, it doesn't really matter as long as your hookah is high quality. In my experience, shoddy egyptians can't compare with machine made MYAs. Non-brand name hookahs can, of course, compare with brands like KM and MYA, but the reason people go for the brand is that it's a guarantee of quality. They also last forever, so even paying double the price works out in the long run.Dear erufikuI would like to correct your information that MYA is not a machine made product. All MYA are handmade. If you want to know more about the way we manufacture our MYA please do not hesitate to contact us at 866 277-9MYA.Thank youMahmoud BadawiCEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1024 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 QUOTE (myasaray.com @ Apr 17 2009, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (erufiku @ Apr 15 2009, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Vladimir @ Apr 14 2009, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm no expert or super experienced (nor were the other people loading the bowls I smoked) but in my experience the smoke from a small hookah is never as satisfying.Try a small MYA rig like the Bambino or QT. I have the former and the smoke it produces on par with my KMs. Minus the purge, of course.To answer OP's question, it doesn't really matter as long as your hookah is high quality. In my experience, shoddy egyptians can't compare with machine made MYAs. Non-brand name hookahs can, of course, compare with brands like KM and MYA, but the reason people go for the brand is that it's a guarantee of quality. They also last forever, so even paying double the price works out in the long run.Dear erufikuI would like to correct your information that MYA is not a machine made product. All MYA are handmade. If you want to know more about the way we manufacture our MYA please do not hesitate to contact us at 866 277-9MYA.Thank youMahmoud BadawiCEOwait seriously? you hand drill out the piping and hand make your hoses? thats impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now