Broken Base, Need New One, Help!

[delSol_si]

I have had one of the crappiest days I have had in a long time. Went to the local shop and picked up some new shisha (some I have never tried before). I went to work and smoked a bowl at work, it was kinda unpleasant because I couldn't really relax, but it taste amazing. I was sooo looking forward to getting back to the dorm to enjoy a bowl. I went and got some beer, went back to the dorms, loaded my bowl up, started to pull my stem out of the vase, and snap! The damn base snapped in half as I was pulling the stem out.

To say the least, I was pissed...1 that the base broke, and 2 I don't get so smoke tonight after getting the bowl loaded. I have looked online at HS, HC, and texashookah and the only vase I could find is a very plain one at HC. Texashookah had some awesome vases, but they don't give any of the measurements.

As you can see from the pic, it looks like the opening is about 2 inches. Anyone have a base they would be willing/like to sell me? Or anyone know of a good place to get a new base?? Thanks for your help!

[Zinite]

yeah that's a 2 inch vase. i'm posting from my phone so i'm not gping to double check this but i think gothookahs.com has replacement khalil mamoon vases that will fit

edit: i checked. they have them and it should work

[Victim026]

If your willing to drop the cash the Bohemian vases at HC are tough to beat.

http://hookahcompany.com/large_bohemian_la...s_3731_prd1.htm

[MechAnt]

That base looks like what they pair with some KM. Hookahcompany has a small stock of KM bases right now but you can get any Large sized glass and it'll fit. They are fairly standardized.

Check out a MZ base. They are a little plain but they are SOLID.

http://www.hookahcompany.com/large_stained...s_2366_prd1.htm

[delSol_si]

yeah that's a 2 inch vase. i'm posting from my phone so i'm not gping to double check this but i think gothookahs.com has replacement khalil mamoon vases that will fit

edit: i checked. they have them and it should work

Thank you! Those do look pretty nice, I will definitely be considering those!

If your willing to drop the cash the Bohemian vases at HC are tough to beat.

http://hookahcompany.com/large_bohemian_la...s_3731_prd1.htm

Ya, I saw those, I REALLY like those, but not sure I am willing to drop $60 yet because I am going to be even more pissed if a $60 base breaks on me. How durable are they? Have you had much experience with them? I wish they made like polycarbonate bases(I think that is what it is called, the stuff they make those cups/glasses out of that DON'T break).

That base looks like what they pair with some KM. Hookahcompany has a small stock of KM bases right now but you can get any Large sized glass and it'll fit. They are fairly standardized.

Check out a MZ base. They are a little plain but they are SOLID.

http://www.hookahcompany.com/large_stained...s_2366_prd1.htm

Thank you! I appreciate the advice, I will be considering those as well, I didn't really know if all the large sized were standard or not (ie. how close to 2" I needed to get). Thanks for clarifying that for me. I really would like to get a base this time that won't break. I wouldn't be so pissed if I had dropped it, but all I did was pull the stem out and it broke! I was even doing the whole "wiggle back and forth slowly" thing so it didn't just pop out and such.


BTW, I REALLY appreciate the fast responses to this. It really shows how awesome this forum and the members are. It is SOO cool how fast people are willing to help out. I haven't decided yet whether to throw down the extra cash for a really nice looking base, or just get a cheap plain jane base incase it breaks again. I also noticed SmokinMoose had some for sale awhile back, doubt he has any left, but I think I may check anyway, build some good feedback. Thanks again! And any more advice anyone has is appreciated!! Edited April 15, 2009 by delSol_si

[Victim026]

The bohemian vases are very nice, some of the nicest on the market and getting harder to find as well. I've got Bohemian vases on both my mash'al's and i've never had any sort of problems with them at all. The glass is incredibly thick compared to anything else on the market and the designs haven't started to rub off on either, one is 2 years old, the other 3. Eric's been talking about these vases and he mentioned that production numbers are down on these, also they are moving the production they are doing to Romania rather then in the czech republic. These could very well be the last of the czech vases and the romanian ones aren't anywhere close to the quality of the czech ones. I'd scoop one up while they are still around.
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[antouwan]

don't forget to order a new grommet as well, chances are the new base you get will not fit perfectly with your grommet setup. i keep a large grade file on hand for customizing my grommets...it's the best

[TexasHookah]

Sorry about your base. Also sorry about the no dimensions. We will try to get the dimensions of the bases online within the next couple of days. As for the broken vase, what kind of hookah was it? Do you have a picture of the original hookah if so we can look in our inventory to see if we have something that matches it. Let us know. Email at contact@texashookah.com.

[Sonthert]

Whoa! Easy, now. Thats a 32* jar, not a standard 30* or 26*. They're kinda rare. I've never actually seen a 32* gasket, We just use fat 30* gaskets and tape to seal them up.

Since I know Hookah Company's stock so well, I can say that on the replacement jars, the only one thats a 32* is the Jumbo Bohemian:

Jumbo Bohemian

This hookah has a 32* jar on it:
32* Jar Hookah

George also has a red/gold version of it, too. Unfortunately, the paint rubs off of both of these. The blue one leaves a blue jar, the red one leaves a clear jar (the red is paint, too).

You might have to switch to a 30* jar and gasket, depending on how big the bell/hub of the shank is.

[delSol_si]

The bohemian vases are very nice, some of the nicest on the market and getting harder to find as well. I've got Bohemian vases on both my mash'al's and i've never had any sort of problems with them at all. The glass is incredibly thick compared to anything else on the market and the designs haven't started to rub off on either, one is 2 years old, the other 3. Eric's been talking about these vases and he mentioned that production numbers are down on these, also they are moving the production they are doing to Romania rather then in the czech republic. These could very well be the last of the czech vases and the romanian ones aren't anywhere close to the quality of the czech ones. I'd scoop one up while they are still around.
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Thanks for the info Victim! I was just about ready to cross that vase off because of funds, but now that you mention that, kinda makes me want to reconsider. Really don't want to have to mess with another broken vase. my KM ice was my only hookah and I miss smoking!! I still haven't unloaded my bowl that I had loaded up before it broke...lol

don't forget to order a new grommet as well, chances are the new base you get will not fit perfectly with your grommet setup. i keep a large grade file on hand for customizing my grommets...it's the best

Thanks for the advice! I was going to just file down the grommet I have, but I like your idea of just ordering another...that way if I do end up getting another Jumbo vase in the future, I will have a grommet for it.

Sorry about your base. Also sorry about the no dimensions. We will try to get the dimensions of the bases online within the next couple of days. As for the broken vase, what kind of hookah was it? Do you have a picture of the original hookah if so we can look in our inventory to see if we have something that matches it. Let us know. Email at contact@texashookah.com.

Thanks! My heart stopped when I heard and saw the breakage. All I could think of was "WTF?! did that really just happen?? WTF??" Thanks for putting the measurements up, I really appreciate it. I'm kinda heart broken again though, I REALLY like the Diamond Cut Glass Base vase but it is too small . I like the pyramid as well, I might be able to get it to fit, it's only .25" smaller and the grommet walls are .25" on either side, meaning I have roughly >.5" to play with. My hookah is a 32" KM ice (most people call it a 34", but it was listed as 32") Stem is 8"+1.5" where the grommet fits. The place the grommet sits is about 1.5" diameter. Thanks again for the help, I am not at all worried about matching the old vase, I would prefer a different new style anyway.

Whoa! Easy, now. Thats a 32* jar, not a standard 30* or 26*. They're kinda rare. I've never actually seen a 32* gasket, We just use fat 30* gaskets and tape to seal them up.

Since I know Hookah Company's stock so well, I can say that on the replacement jars, the only one thats a 32* is the Jumbo Bohemian:

Jumbo Bohemian

This hookah has a 32* jar on it:
32* Jar Hookah

George also has a red/gold version of it, too. Unfortunately, the paint rubs off of both of these. The blue one leaves a blue jar, the red one leaves a clear jar (the red is paint, too).

You might have to switch to a 30* jar and gasket, depending on how big the bell/hub of the shank is.

Wow, thanks for the help, much appreciated!! Answers my question of what size base and grommet I have and what to look for. When I opened the box and put the hookah together, I thought the vase was a bit on the large size, but didn't realize it was "rare." Thanks for letting me know what HC has. Like I was talking about with victim, not sure I want to throw down $65 for a vase yet...though it is tempting. I REALLY like the vase on the al gia hookah, but I really can't afford another hookah now that I have a vase to buy as well. Paint rubbing off doesn't bother me much, the paint on the vase that broke was rubbing off.

Soo many options! Thanks again for all your guy's help, any more suggestions are welcomed! I did also find a Jumbo KM vase at gH? but I have heard KM vases aren't the best quality. They do have some sexy Syrians though. I have a feeling I am going to end up downsizing to a 30" base. I would like to stick with 32", but there is such a better selection and price on the 30". Thanks again guys! I have a lot of thinking to do!

[Sonthert]

Call Hookah Company up and ask them to sell you one of those blue or red teardrop 32* ones....the one in the bottom link.

[delSol_si]

So I decided I couldn't wait until getting a new base in to smoke, so I went to Lowe's and got some PVC stuff and made a vase to make do until I can get one in. Worked pretty well.

[mohinder]

So I decided I couldn't wait until getting a new base in to smoke, so I went to Lowe's and got some PVC stuff and made a vase to make do until I can get one in. Worked pretty well.

That's one of the least ghetto, ghetto vases I've ever seen, good work!

[BaronIV]

haha that vase is AWESOME! i say you spraypaint it then draw on some fun designs!

[frost91]

i have a 32" trimetal. before my stem would tip over a little because of a loose vase, but after it broke, i bought a new one at thehookah.com, the shiny one with the glitter design and it works perfectly too. Its cheap as well, i think 9.99

[evilded777]

+10!

That's sheer brilliance, and I actually like how it looks... kinda Cyber Punk. Does anyone do Cyber Punk anymore, or am I dating myself with that reference?

[delSol_si]

Haha, thanks guys. Ya I know it looks ghetto as hell, but it works for now. I am thinking about using it as my travel vase so I don't have to worry about breaking the vase when I go somewhere to smoke. I would paint it but I live in a dorm room and they would probably frown on that...maybe this summer. Looked on thehookah.com and the cheapest they had is $20. I am probably either going to buy one from a guy here on the forums that said he would ship one for $15 (cheap and nice of the guy, but I don't really care a whole lot for the design) or buy one from hookahcompany.com since I am placing a coal/shisha order w/ them anyway. Still need to call about that vase, Eric, just been soo freaking busy. Thanks again for the help!

[mattarios2]

Whoa! Easy, now. Thats a 32* jar, not a standard 30* or 26*. They're kinda rare. I've never actually seen a 32* gasket, We just use fat 30* gaskets and tape to seal them up.

Since I know Hookah Company's stock so well, I can say that on the replacement jars, the only one thats a 32* is the Jumbo Bohemian:

Jumbo Bohemian

This hookah has a 32* jar on it:
32* Jar Hookah

George also has a red/gold version of it, too. Unfortunately, the paint rubs off of both of these. The blue one leaves a blue jar, the red one leaves a clear jar (the red is paint, too).

You might have to switch to a 30* jar and gasket, depending on how big the bell/hub of the shank is.

yah to bad my jumbo bohemian has like a size 28. I couldnt get a 30 gasket to even come close to fitting on my jumbo, the hole is freaking tiny, damn handmade goods. I love that they are handmade but sometimes you just get one that is waaay different than the rest.

and that is a damn cool idea man, good work!

[myrrhqueen]

If your willing to drop the cash the Bohemian vases at HC are tough to beat.

http://hookahcompany.com/large_bohemian_la...s_3731_prd1.htm

Man, if I trusted myself to make a custom one, I would so get one of those as a base. They are so gorgeous.

[JByer323]

This is why I picked up a Hobo...

[JDHarding]

Man I'm seeing these base breakings way too often. Now I'm worried about my caravan trading company base I got with my KM stem. It looks tough, but if even that thick glass base can break, I'm in trouble.

[delSol_si]

This is why I picked up a Hobo...

I sent payment to likespaceship for an extra vase he had, if this one ends up breaking on me too, I am done with my KM and am going the Hobo route as well. I work at a restaurant/bar so getting a new vase for the Hobo should be fairly easy haha.

[Sonthert]

The glass is getting crummier and thinner.

Just for fun, I bought 11 jars from Hookah Company for retail sale, today, all 30s, heres the weights:

#1: KM Jar (~2008) 1147g.
#2: km Jar (2009) 1092g
#3: KM Jar (2009) 988g
#4: KM Jar (2009) 973g
#5: KM Jar (2009) 937g (actually its similar to a KM jar, #4, but it doesn't say KM)
#6: No name Egyptian jar (2007) 1268g
#7: Acid washed red, no name, from HC's latest shipment 1233g
#8: Acid washed, black, no name, from HC's latest shipment 1131g
#9, #10, Silver/Green No-Name Egyptian jars 986g, 939g
#11 Gold/Blue (2009) 1035g

For reference
#12 (2006) Egyptian Jar 30* 1513g
#13 (2007) KM Jar 30* 1120g
#14 (2006) No Name Egyptian 26* jar 1312g
Maybe thats why they're breaking so much?

[delSol_si]

The glass is getting crummier and thinner.

Just for fun, I bought 11 jars from Hookah Company for retail sale, today, all 30s, heres the weights:

#1: KM Jar (~2008) 1147g.
#2: km Jar (2009) 1092g
#3: KM Jar (2009) 988g
#4: KM Jar (2009) 973g
#5: KM Jar (2009) 937g (actually its similar to a KM jar, #4, but it doesn't say KM)
#6: No name Egyptian jar (2007) 1268g
#7: Acid washed red, no name, from HC's latest shipment 1233g
#8: Acid washed, black, no name, from HC's latest shipment 1131g
#9, #10, Silver/Green No-Name Egyptian jars 986g, 939g
#11 Gold/Blue (2009) 1035g

For reference
#12 (2006) Egyptian Jar 30* 1513g
#13 (2007) KM Jar 30* 1120g
#14 (2006) No Name Egyptian 26* jar 1312g
Maybe thats why they're breaking so much?

Thanks for the post, that is VERY interesting information! It's interesting that the no names are actually heavier than the KM, guess KM is taking advantage of their good reputation? Kinda sad that companies will ruin their name like that. What size are #6, #7, and #8? I really did want to get the vase you referenced me to, but likespaceships said he would ship a KM vase to me for $15 (I sent $17 to cover MF fees since this is my first trade and I want it to be good). Couldn't pass that deal up. Plus, with this shit economy, my dad got laid off and my job is going to shit, so I need to save money.