redjako Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 So I've been loving these for tangiers as of late...but I'm unsure of the best way to light them.3 minutes / each side: blackened little suckers, but still smoke good1 minute / each side: silver still exists, a little bit of coal tastes, still smokes pretty good.Quick 20 seconds of lighting on ONE side: funny how it will light the entire coal, even to glowing orange after no heat for 3 minutes, but the silver still exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 The only way I can get the silver off is by lighting for a while, then picking up the coal and blowing it off. And the little bastards still taste awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 always make sure the silver is burned off before using japanese style coals..how long it will take for this to happen just depends on how you are lighting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookworm Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 take 2, stand them on edge such that they make a VERY acute angle (15-25 degrees) and shoot the torch up the middle. Not only does it light one coal more efficiently that torching it separately, but it lights TWO coals more efficiently that torching one separately. It's the kind of efficiency engineers jack off to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 QUOTE (Bookworm @ Apr 30 2009, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>take 2, stand them on edge such that they make a VERY acute angle (15-25 degrees) and shoot the torch up the middle. Not only does it light one coal more efficiently that torching it separately, but it lights TWO coals more efficiently that torching one separately. It's the kind of efficiency engineers jack off to.Ahh I can picture this. I don't have a torch, I just use a flame stove or burner.I found out accidentally you can fire them just for like 20 seconds on one side, turn off the flame, and in three min they are glowing orange..I was sick, and decided not to smoke, so I turned off the burner, came back later and they were piping hot.But as I said, the silver didn't come off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Leave them on the burner for 5 of 6 minutes or until the entire coal is glowing white/red/orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 QUOTE (Zinite @ Apr 30 2009, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Leave them on the burner for 5 of 6 minutes or until the entire coal is glowing white/red/orangeAh.. so that's how it's done.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 QUOTE (JDHarding @ May 1 2009, 03:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Zinite @ Apr 30 2009, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Leave them on the burner for 5 of 6 minutes or until the entire coal is glowing white/red/orangeAh.. so that's how it's done..thats how you're supposed to light any non-quicklight coal. leave them on the burner, flip when necessary until the entire coal is red hot with ash all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 QUOTE (chinamon @ Apr 30 2009, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (JDHarding @ May 1 2009, 03:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Zinite @ Apr 30 2009, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Leave them on the burner for 5 of 6 minutes or until the entire coal is glowing white/red/orangeAh.. so that's how it's done..thats how you're supposed to light any non-quicklight coal. leave them on the burner, flip when necessary until the entire coal is red hot with ash all around.It didn't work.. I left it on there for 3-4 minutes each side and the stupid silver stuff didn't come off till I blew on the coal.. then after a while the coal started turning darker. Still fully red, but darker red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 QUOTE (JDHarding @ May 1 2009, 05:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (chinamon @ Apr 30 2009, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (JDHarding @ May 1 2009, 03:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Zinite @ Apr 30 2009, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Leave them on the burner for 5 of 6 minutes or until the entire coal is glowing white/red/orangeAh.. so that's how it's done..thats how you're supposed to light any non-quicklight coal. leave them on the burner, flip when necessary until the entire coal is red hot with ash all around.It didn't work.. I left it on there for 3-4 minutes each side and the stupid silver stuff didn't come off till I blew on the coal.. then after a while the coal started turning darker. Still fully red, but darker red.the silver stuff doesnt come off on its own. it needs to be tapped off or scraped or blown off. same concept as ash. just make sure the coal is red hot and silver is off then you can put it on your bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 There are some really awful "Japanese Coals" on the market. They're not all equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyram Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I've noticed also that they can still look silver even when that stuff is gone, the first layer of ash may have some of that stuff still mixed in it. I always have to blow them off or tap them (but this box I have now... tapping them = breaking them *sigh*). I do this over the sink so I can wash away the ash etc.-Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Sonthert @ Apr 30 2009, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>There are some really awful "Japanese Coals" on the market. They're not all equal.http://www.hookahjohn.com/product.sc?categ...p;productId=128Using Golden Hookah Charcoals, they are nice stuff.I notice though that when lighting (tonight ~4 or so hours, lucid tangiers, 4 coals, med. phunnel) I need to let all of the silver come off with just a light blow on them, if I "force" the silver off with some air power (this sounds weird lol) it still doesn't taste right.I'm thinking its ~2 minutes a side.Edit: with the Golden Hookah Charcoals above, the coals are blackened and splinter to shards with 5 or so minutes on a grill. Edited May 1, 2009 by redjako Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Yeah, the canarys are the good ones. Not chinese imitations. The cost is usually how you can tell. A $7 or lower box of silver flints is chinese, a $14+ box is japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 QUOTE (Bookworm @ Apr 30 2009, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>take 2, stand them on edge such that they make a VERY acute angle (15-25 degrees) and shoot the torch up the middle. Not only does it light one coal more efficiently that torching it separately, but it lights TWO coals more efficiently that torching one separately. It's the kind of efficiency engineers jack off to.Same thing works on CH coals. I light them in pairs as well. It's like they fuel off each other and light in half the time.'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ May 1 2009, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Bookworm @ Apr 30 2009, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>take 2, stand them on edge such that they make a VERY acute angle (15-25 degrees) and shoot the torch up the middle. Not only does it light one coal more efficiently that torching it separately, but it lights TWO coals more efficiently that torching one separately. It's the kind of efficiency engineers jack off to.Same thing works on CH coals. I light them in pairs as well. It's like they fuel off each other and light in half the time.'RaniI wonder if it would work on a burner to stand the coals up like that over the burner. Maybe that would work on coco naras too. I should try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted May 2, 2009 Author Share Posted May 2, 2009 QUOTE (JDHarding @ May 2 2009, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I wonder if it would work on a burner to stand the coals up like that over the burner. Maybe that would work on coco naras too. I should try that.I think the Golden's would splinter if stood on end with Overheating.I used a coal burning stove last night, smoked for 4-5 hours, and did a 2 minutes a side on them, OR I just forgot and left one side on for 3 min and all the silver was off.As long as its FLAKING, I just leave it alone (I don't blow it off).I really like lighting them on top of the coals which are still cooking off the bowl.Makes me warm inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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