Vladimir Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 QUOTE (GNUWorldOrder @ May 8 2009, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i put my life on the line every day when i get on the bus to go to campus. i could get the swine flu!The difference is you don't put your life on the line for others' sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwood Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 QUOTE (GNUWorldOrder @ May 8 2009, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>and you are proud of this why?Perhaps because speed limits are not established arbitrarily, and those that break them are significantly endangering the life of those around them? I don't like getting tickets any more than anyone else, but it's just another part of the contract we sign by utilizing federal and state services. Don't reap the rewards and gripe about the payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye bye now have fun Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 they the cap of 55 was assigned due to gas mileage back in the day. but the only real speed limit that comes from physics are on/off ramp banks. they use a very low if not 0 coefficient of friction to simulate rain and ice and get numbers that way. lastly i have no problem with an AGGRESSIVE DRIVE that is speeding getting pulled over but my dad got pulled over then harassed for an hour (he has a company car so his registration said his company owned it not him) for going 4 miles over the limit at 12:45 in the morning. no 3rd party is being hurt for not wearing a seat belt and no 3rd party is being hurt for drive fast on a empty road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 QUOTE (GNUWorldOrder @ May 8 2009, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>they the cap of 55 was assigned due to gas mileage back in the day. but the only real speed limit that comes from physics are on/off ramp banks. they use a very low if not 0 coefficient of friction to simulate rain and ice and get numbers that way. lastly i have no problem with an AGGRESSIVE DRIVE that is speeding getting pulled over but my dad got pulled over then harassed for an hour (he has a company car so his registration said his company owned it not him) for going 4 miles over the limit at 12:45 in the morning. no 3rd party is being hurt for not wearing a seat belt and no 3rd party is being hurt for drive fast on a empty roadAh but that's just it, if the road is truly empty you won't have any problems . Drunk driving on a empty road also doesn't hurt any third party, but you can see where this slippery slope goes. I'm not going to defend every tactic, every cop out there. But believe it or not, not all, let alone not the majority are out there to screw up your day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye bye now have fun Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 there is a difference between drunk driving an empty road and speeding on a near empty road. when drunk driving you cant control the car and they deserve what they get. shooting drugs into the vein of your dick in a back ally also doesnt hurt any 3rd party. whats your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 QUOTE (GNUWorldOrder @ May 8 2009, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>there is a difference between drunk driving an empty road and speeding on a near empty road. when drunk driving you cant control the car and they deserve what they get. shooting drugs into the vein of your dick in a back ally also doesnt hurt any 3rd party. whats your point?At what speed can you control your vehicle properly? Who is going to decide that? I think they already did do that actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Try To Run Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) I got pulled over doing 58 in a 35 driving a Red 2004 Evo VIII with 497whp/408 pounds of torque on a backroad (no traffic whatsoever). I had exhaust, full 15% tints all around (illegal in IL), everything. The cop let me off and said "Here is a $20.00 exhaust ticket for the straight pipe... I remember at your age it is hard to get laid with out a car :nods at girl in front seat and walks away:" I was 17.Beautiful blondes do wonders =) Edited May 9, 2009 by Dont Try To Run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwood Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 QUOTE (GNUWorldOrder @ May 8 2009, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>shooting drugs into the vein of your dick in a back ally also doesnt hurt any 3rd party.Tell that to the 3,000 people beheaded by cartels in Mexico. You can't shoot them if you don't buy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I guess I'm done with this discussion since defending police officers on two occasions has gotten me on GNU's ignore list . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1024 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 laws are laws...if we pick and chose which ones to enforce then whats the point of having the law?yes i agree that most roads have to low speed limits...but you have to remember its not just physics based, but also reaction speed based, brake speed based, etc.if someones brakes are failing, your going to want them to not be speeding when they hit you...also americans have so many distractions as is...ipods cell phones whats nots, its just ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewtexas123 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 If they jack up the speed and you have money then hire a lawyer and take it to court. Most of the time they wont show and you wont have the ticket on your record. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (andrewtexas123 @ May 8 2009, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If they jack up the speed and you have money then hire a lawyer and take it to court. Most of the time they wont show and you wont have the ticket on your record. AndrewAgain, will vary by state, but it is no longer required of the officer to show for the initial court hearing.And despite what your experience may prove, they do in fact usually show, if they fail to it is dereliction of duty and they could get fired for it if it became a problem or habit. Edited May 9, 2009 by Vladimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 QUOTE (Vladimir @ May 9 2009, 10:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (GNUWorldOrder @ May 8 2009, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>they the cap of 55 was assigned due to gas mileage back in the day. but the only real speed limit that comes from physics are on/off ramp banks. they use a very low if not 0 coefficient of friction to simulate rain and ice and get numbers that way. lastly i have no problem with an AGGRESSIVE DRIVE that is speeding getting pulled over but my dad got pulled over then harassed for an hour (he has a company car so his registration said his company owned it not him) for going 4 miles over the limit at 12:45 in the morning. no 3rd party is being hurt for not wearing a seat belt and no 3rd party is being hurt for drive fast on a empty roadAh but that's just it, if the road is truly empty you won't have any problems . Drunk driving on a empty road also doesn't hurt any third party, but you can see where this slippery slope goes. I'm not going to defend every tactic, every cop out there. But believe it or not, not all, let alone not the majority are out there to screw up your day.your right, drunk driving on an empty road doesnt hurt anyone. but a drunk driver is not always on an empty road. he starts at a bar (or wherever he is) and ends up at a neighborhood. i can promise you that the road will not always be empty from point A to B. As for speeding, you can adjust your speed based off of traffic conditions. you cant sober up when people are on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineout Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 i know in my state if you dont get a ticket for 3 years they immediately drop it and it doesnt go on your record. Maybe you should look up if they do that in your state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 QUOTE (Canon @ May 9 2009, 03:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>your right, drunk driving on an empty road doesnt hurt anyone. but a drunk driver is not always on an empty road. he starts at a bar (or wherever he is) and ends up at a neighborhood. i can promise you that the road will not always be empty from point A to B. As for speeding, you can adjust your speed based off of traffic conditions. you cant sober up when people are on the road.What happens when a car has busted headlights and you don't see them, and don't have time to adjust your speed?Look I HATE speed limits, I can, and have, easily made it from Spokane to Seattle going 90mph the whole way without putting anyone in danger. But the fact is speed limits are there for a reason, and they do save lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 QUOTE (Vladimir @ May 10 2009, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Canon @ May 9 2009, 03:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>your right, drunk driving on an empty road doesnt hurt anyone. but a drunk driver is not always on an empty road. he starts at a bar (or wherever he is) and ends up at a neighborhood. i can promise you that the road will not always be empty from point A to B. As for speeding, you can adjust your speed based off of traffic conditions. you cant sober up when people are on the road.What happens when a car has busted headlights and you don't see them, and don't have time to adjust your speed?Look I HATE speed limits, I can, and have, easily made it from Spokane to Seattle going 90mph the whole way without putting anyone in danger. But the fact is speed limits are there for a reason, and they do save lives.your adding what if's to the whole mix. if there is a car driving on on the wrong side of the road at night with busted headlights then i dont care how fast your going, your likely to run into them if you both are in the same lane.as far as speed limits saving lives. they might save some but incorrect speed limits actually take lives. in my old town we had an area that the speed limit was 55mph. everyone went 70 on it, if you went 55mph you would cause a wreck. cops loved to camp that spot and give tickets out, but it never changed the fact that everyone went 70mph on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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