MrMoodz Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Does anybody know of where to pick up Tangiers anywhere in Maricopa County? The 70's Shop and Hookah Lounge carries it but for too much (cool owner but expensive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumsygrace Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Where is that place at?I didn't think anyone in the valley carried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoodz Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 7th st and Camelback in Phx. I went there right before lunch but my jaw dropped in disbelief when I saw the price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I would start by notifying Eric. Some manufacturers (don't know if he's one) have pricing controls built into the distribution agreements so as to prevent both price gouging and undercutting. In any case, he should be made aware. He may or may not care depending on how he chooses to handle his business, but if were my product, I'd certainly at least want to be told about it.'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoodz Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 I PMed him on here and e-mailed him prior to going to the shop. I still can't beleive they were charging $26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsytheowl Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I would see that as a problem. Wouldn't want to give people the impression that Tangiers is the new SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 print a copy of what it would cost you to buy it online with discount and everything (h-s 3 pack deal with HF 15% off with shipping) and negotiate there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punx Clever Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 damn... tang 250's at the local shop at college are 16... the 100's are 11 o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Punx Clever @ May 20 2009, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>damn... tang 250's at the local shop at college are 16... the 100's are 11 o.OI think Eric stopped selling 100's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HsK BATES Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 geese i wish we had some local places that sell it at a reasonable price! Im not liking this order and wait shit. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverK Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Canon @ May 20 2009, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>print a copy of what it would cost you to buy it online with discount and everything (h-s 3 pack deal with HF 15% off with shipping) and negotiate thereJust got off the phone with Michael, the owner of That 70's Shop in Phoenix, and I told him the online price. He said something like "well you should order it online then. But beware that the price difference is taxes that they SHOULD be charging you but are not. And if you DON'T pay the taxes then theoretically the authorities could come after you for not paying taxes when you should have."Phht, I can't believe he thinks the $10 price difference is all taxes. That's just not right. Anyway, he knows me as a customer and he was not interested in negotiating the price. He said buy it online. Oh well...nothing ventured, nothing gained! I'll be putting in my order online! Edited May 21, 2009 by SilverK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverK Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (MrMoodz @ May 20 2009, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Does anybody know of where to pick up Tangiers anywhere in Maricopa County? The 70's Shop and Hookah Lounge carries it but for too much (cool owner but expensive).That 70's Shop only has 4 flavors, and they're only the "regular" line. He doesn't carry Lucid or F-line. He's charging nearly double the online price. Way too rich for my blood! BUT it's good to know that it's at least HERE locally, if one was desperate enough to pay that much for it.Eric is there ANY way that someone like me, here in Phoenix, could do anything to get it stocked locally at a better price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 You have to remember lounges pay tobacco taxes on top of wholesale. In colorado its 40% of the purchase price. Each state is different so prices are different then add shipping to the lounge on top of that and the fact theres no HF discount and then add that the lounge has to make money to stay open. Its GONNA be more then online, we sell our tang for 20$ for a 250, Its easy for online vendors to charge less because they dont have to pay as much rent to keep the warehouse open as a lounge and there employee taxes are lowers since they dont need as many. 26 isnt really bad at all i just went to hookahjohn and a 250 is 14.95 + 10 shipping to me (colorado) so its 24.95 shipped. Keep in mind thats with out a discount, but buying it at the lounge you dont have to wait for shipping.edit: HC is 20.95 shipped to me without the discount, but is the 5 dollars worth the wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (cotsi95 @ May 21 2009, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You have to remember lounges pay tobacco taxes on top of wholesale. In colorado its 40% of the purchase price. Each state is different so prices are different then add shipping to the lounge on top of that and the fact theres no HF discount and then add that the lounge has to make money to stay open. Its GONNA be more then online, we sell our tang for 20$ for a 250, Its easy for online vendors to charge less because they dont have to pay as much rent to keep the warehouse open as a lounge and there employee taxes are lowers since they dont need as many. 26 isnt really bad at all i just went to hookahjohn and a 250 is 14.95 + 10 shipping to me (colorado) so its 24.95 shipped. Keep in mind thats with out a discount, but buying it at the lounge you dont have to wait for shipping.edit: HC is 20.95 shipped to me without the discount, but is the 5 dollars worth the wait?Thats flat rate shipping. If you went to HC warehouse you could buy it still at that price w/o the shipping HC flat rate shipping means you buy 10kilos of shisha you sitll pay 8dollars shipping. Its a better deal overall online. Small buisness fail because they think people are stupid and treat there customers horrible.What ever its that guys loss he would be making more money if he lowered his price to 14 or 16 dollars because I am sure people would be buying it way more often then 26 dollars. Edited May 21, 2009 by newjacksm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickimholte Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 i wonder how many kids will be stoked on the new "premium" shisha at the shop, buy it, and then not be able to smoke it haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscani Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 sad... someone actually sells it in the valley, but the jack the price up... *waits for shipment to arrive* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoodz Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (SilverK @ May 21 2009, 04:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (MrMoodz @ May 20 2009, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Does anybody know of where to pick up Tangiers anywhere in Maricopa County? The 70's Shop and Hookah Lounge carries it but for too much (cool owner but expensive).That 70's Shop only has 4 flavors, and they're only the "regular" line. He doesn't carry Lucid or F-line. He's charging nearly double the online price. Way too rich for my blood! BUT it's good to know that it's at least HERE locally, if one was desperate enough to pay that much for it.Eric is there ANY way that someone like me, here in Phoenix, could do anything to get it stocked locally at a better price?I tried to get the owner of Smoke N Go (no longer a business unfortunately) to carry his line and after receiving the samples, he decided against it because his regulars were used to the non-buzz of Fumari. The only way for Tangiers to be here locally at a decent price is for us to talk to the owners of local lounges and have them order directly from Eric.But yeah, $26 is just way too much for me. Until it's carry locally, I will continue to order through hookah-shisha's triple Tangiers pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscani Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 can't think of a decent lounge that may do it... hubbly bubbly is too wild along with eddies (plus they dont know shit about hookah). Harem the owner is a douche. Urban, Az only love his nahkla... Istanbul, the owners don't like anything too difficult or too heavy of a buzz.I think the only 2 places that may be worth talking to are Memo's (since i dont know too much about them) and that new place that opened up in phoenix a couple months ago, (think a forum member owns it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 You should be happy. Where I live during school, Layalina, Soex, Jewel and crappy flavored Nakhla are the only baccy I can find, and VERY limited selection of any. I moved in with my parents for the summer to a whole new town. Had a gal I met at college show me around town and the only baccy I could find was Layalina and Havana if I remember correctly. I also have yet to find a lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscani Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (delSol_si @ May 21 2009, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You should be happy. Where I live during school, Layalina, Soex, Jewel and crappy flavored Nakhla are the only baccy I can find, and VERY limited selection of any. I moved in with my parents for the summer to a whole new town. Had a gal I met at college show me around town and the only baccy I could find was Layalina and Havana if I remember correctly. I also have yet to find a lounge.I wont be happy until we have Tangiers for sale loccaly here in the valley... even if I had to drive all the way to the west side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickimholte Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Tuscani @ May 20 2009, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can't think of a decent lounge that may do it... hubbly bubbly is too wild along with eddies (plus they dont know shit about hookah). Harem the owner is a douche. Urban, Az only love his nahkla... Istanbul, the owners don't like anything too difficult or too heavy of a buzz.I think the only 2 places that may be worth talking to are Memo's (since i dont know too much about them) and that new place that opened up in phoenix a couple months ago, (think a forum member owns it).are you thinking of casa blanca? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscani Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (nickimholte @ May 21 2009, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Tuscani @ May 20 2009, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can't think of a decent lounge that may do it... hubbly bubbly is too wild along with eddies (plus they dont know shit about hookah). Harem the owner is a douche. Urban, Az only love his nahkla... Istanbul, the owners don't like anything too difficult or too heavy of a buzz.I think the only 2 places that may be worth talking to are Memo's (since i dont know too much about them) and that new place that opened up in phoenix a couple months ago, (think a forum member owns it).are you thinking of casa blanca?that could be the place... haven't been there yet. too far of a drive for just a lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickimholte Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (Tuscani @ May 21 2009, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (nickimholte @ May 21 2009, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Tuscani @ May 20 2009, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can't think of a decent lounge that may do it... hubbly bubbly is too wild along with eddies (plus they dont know shit about hookah). Harem the owner is a douche. Urban, Az only love his nahkla... Istanbul, the owners don't like anything too difficult or too heavy of a buzz.I think the only 2 places that may be worth talking to are Memo's (since i dont know too much about them) and that new place that opened up in phoenix a couple months ago, (think a forum member owns it).are you thinking of casa blanca?that could be the place... haven't been there yet. too far of a drive for just a lounge.it's right by me, seeing as how im stuck in glendale/peoria area haha. havent been there yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscani Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (nickimholte @ May 21 2009, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Tuscani @ May 21 2009, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (nickimholte @ May 21 2009, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Tuscani @ May 20 2009, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can't think of a decent lounge that may do it... hubbly bubbly is too wild along with eddies (plus they dont know shit about hookah). Harem the owner is a douche. Urban, Az only love his nahkla... Istanbul, the owners don't like anything too difficult or too heavy of a buzz.I think the only 2 places that may be worth talking to are Memo's (since i dont know too much about them) and that new place that opened up in phoenix a couple months ago, (think a forum member owns it).are you thinking of casa blanca?that could be the place... haven't been there yet. too far of a drive for just a lounge.it's right by me, seeing as how im stuck in glendale/peoria area haha. havent been there yet though.ahh cool, I heard they use KM's and phunnels... shisha is Sb and af. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 QUOTE (MrMoodz @ May 20 2009, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (SilverK @ May 21 2009, 04:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (MrMoodz @ May 20 2009, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Does anybody know of where to pick up Tangiers anywhere in Maricopa County? The 70's Shop and Hookah Lounge carries it but for too much (cool owner but expensive).That 70's Shop only has 4 flavors, and they're only the "regular" line. He doesn't carry Lucid or F-line. He's charging nearly double the online price. Way too rich for my blood! BUT it's good to know that it's at least HERE locally, if one was desperate enough to pay that much for it.Eric is there ANY way that someone like me, here in Phoenix, could do anything to get it stocked locally at a better price?I tried to get the owner of Smoke N Go (no longer a business unfortunately) to carry his line and after receiving the samples, he decided against it because his regulars were used to the non-buzz of Fumari. The only way for Tangiers to be here locally at a decent price is for us to talk to the owners of local lounges and have them order directly from Eric.But yeah, $26 is just way too much for me. Until it's carry locally, I will continue to order through hookah-shisha's triple Tangiers pack.He banked on Fumari and he's not in business anymore? Huh. Kidding!Here's another option. You guys organize a Tangiers grange and get monthly orders together and get someone to drive out here and get it...you'll save $3/250g...multiply that by 40x250g and you just paid for gas and hotel room. Savings on 500g and 1000g are even larger. The savings on a Kg of one flavor is $26. If you want to organize it, I'll package it up for free, the prices I quoted are for loose tub sales...packaging is about $4/Kg normally. He can sell it at any price he wants to. Its not unusual for shops like that to mark stuff up 200%, he buys it for $8, sells it for $24. Let me guess...the store is in a strip mall?OK, OK, this is confusing and I'm tired...what are your other questions, my brothers and sisters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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