the_cool Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I gotta ask, how do some of your guys put 3 coco's on a small phunnel? Do you put it on everything? I put 3 cocochas on a small phunnel of AF Esk. Apple and guava and it wasn't harsh, but STRONG with maybe dare i say it, too much flavour! And at the mo I am smoking AF strawbery, genadine and gavua mix and its strong enough with just 2.Do you guys have lungs of steel or does it depend on which flavour being smoked which dictates the amount of heat it can take? I loved the amount of smoke that it gives with 3 but it is just reaaaaaly strong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I usually use 3-4 coco coals on a phunnel, I think it really just depends on how you pack it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedchase Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Tom16689 @ May 22 2009, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I usually use 3-4 coco coals on a phunnel, I think it really just depends on how you pack it.Agreed. Also a lot of it has to do with personal preference."At the moment 2 is perfect" If two coals is perfect for you, then why keep trying for 3? Just because everyone else is? Edited May 22, 2009 by lowspeedchase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 You all astound me with the amout of coals you all put on your hookahs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoodz Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 For a small phunnel I use 2 cocos and a windcover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColibriDon Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 3 Coco's for Tangiers. 2 for AF, windcover is usually necessary. 3 for Nakhla. 3 for most everything else, then cycle in the windcover. That's all for a small phunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 you use less for AF than tangiers?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColibriDon Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (mushrat @ May 22 2009, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you use less for AF than tangiers??Yep. But this really does vary from flavor to flavor. The Esk. Apple I have is amazingly juicy and if I put three on, I just can't get any good smoke--I mean, there will be smoke, but the liquid will burn too fast and give off a bad taste. For AF Honey and AF Mint, I usually start at 3 and then, if it's not cooperating, take one off, take a few puffs and then throw on the windcover and usually get great smoke. Take this with a grain of salt, I only smoke 3 AF flavors and I only regularly smoke one--Esk Apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalsmoker Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I use 2 coco's and a windcover for almost every setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (mushrat @ May 22 2009, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You all astound me with the amout of coals you all put on your hookahs.well as you know mush it depends on the tobacco. I use either 2 cocos chopped in half or 3 shishaco's on a mini phunnel, but that is if i am using nakhla which requires more heat, and that is packing the crap out of it. And to the OP, as others have said it depends on the juiciness and the brand of tobacco. For AF I would think 2 cocos is plenty, if not bust out the wind cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 wow. no wonder i go through coals so 'quickly'small phunnel + nakhla = 4 cocos" " + AF = 3 cocos" " + tang lucid = 3 cocosthose are really the only brands i smoke... but everything falls within that range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaby Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 typically I have done 3 cocos for everything but tangiers, which I do 2 and normally the windcover.. Lately though it seems like I've been using the windcover constantly for everything.. perhaps its time to use more coals.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (antouwan @ May 22 2009, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wow. no wonder i go through coals so 'quickly'small phunnel + nakhla = 4 cocos" " + AF = 3 cocos" " + tang lucid = 3 cocosthose are really the only brands i smoke... but everything falls within that range4 cocos for a small with nak ... really? try cracking the cocos in half so the heat distributes better and i doubt u will need 4 cocos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alive Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I use 3 on nakhla, and cycle in the windcover. It can start to get just a little 'warm' id say, but i dont mind that at all. Taking off the cover will make it cool down to normal temps quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaby Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (alive @ May 22 2009, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I use 3 on nakhla, and cycle in the windcover. It can start to get just a little 'warm' id say, but i dont mind that at all. Taking off the cover will make it cool down to normal temps quicklyThat's about what I do for nakhla on my small phunnel.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (mushrat @ May 22 2009, 07:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You all astound me with the amout of coals you all put on your hookahs.I use CH coals, but I am assuming they are very similar when it comes to heat. I always have to use 3 coals to get good smoke(no wind cover), I'd be curious to see you set up a hookah and get good results with less. There is no doubt in mind mind you do, but I'd just be curious to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cool Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 The reason I want 3, is purely for the amount of smoke it pulls. I mean 2 isn't exactly weak, but with 3 its just WOW. The only time i can put 3 on and can smoke normally is with Nak DA, which is just bliss.Mush, i agree with you! I am always shocked to hear 3 cocos let alone 4! It looks like the whole bowl is just covered in coal! How much do you put on yours?As for packing, I have tried tweaking my method many a time, if I keep the shisha level with the inner phunnel, it doesn't come out nice at all, the shisha has to be to the brim. It's a relatively loose pack, but generously filled. And as for water level, if I keep it 1-1.5 inch submerged, its really easy to drag but I get a very dry smoke which isn't pleasant, so I think my level is 2-3 inches submerged (KM Exotica is the hookah). Single layer of standard foil, and 3 ring of tooth pick sized holes and not many of them. Probably about 21 all together. I dont know if these dictate the amount of coals I need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I use 4 japs on a small phunnel 3 on a mini, and i use 4 on a normal eqytpian and 3 on a mod bowl. It all just comes down to heat management if its getting hot...fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (mattarios2 @ May 22 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (antouwan @ May 22 2009, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wow. no wonder i go through coals so 'quickly'small phunnel + nakhla = 4 cocos" " + AF = 3 cocos" " + tang lucid = 3 cocosthose are really the only brands i smoke... but everything falls within that range4 cocos for a small with nak ... really? try cracking the cocos in half so the heat distributes better and i doubt u will need 4 cocosi just might do that...that shit aint cheapbut yes, really. ridiculously densely packed nakhla in a small phunnel + 4 cocos is absolutely wonderful. the head will last about 3 rounds of coals. it's ridic and legit. . .SIMULTANEOUSLY. the whole method/setup has made my tobacco of choice nakhla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapten Kanel Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 And thats cocobricos, more than twice the size of coconaras! Seriously it does work but the standard KM egyptian is also really large soThis is how a bowl looks after you go real hardcore, tasty shit!Pure nakhla mint and quicklights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 you guys are crazy!3 halves (on a mini) is waht its all about and even that is kinda pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUE&GOLD Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 QUOTE (the_cool @ May 22 2009, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The reason I want 3, is purely for the amount of smoke it pulls. I mean 2 isn't exactly weak, but with 3 its just WOW. The only time i can put 3 on and can smoke normally is with Nak DA, which is just bliss.Mush, i agree with you! I am always shocked to hear 3 cocos let alone 4! It looks like the whole bowl is just covered in coal! How much do you put on yours?As for packing, I have tried tweaking my method many a time, if I keep the shisha level with the inner phunnel, it doesn't come out nice at all, the shisha has to be to the brim. It's a relatively loose pack, but generously filled. And as for water level, if I keep it 1-1.5 inch submerged, its really easy to drag but I get a very dry smoke which isn't pleasant, so I think my level is 2-3 inches submerged (KM Exotica is the hookah). Single layer of standard foil, and 3 ring of tooth pick sized holes and not many of them. Probably about 21 all together. I dont know if these dictate the amount of coals I needtry using 2 layers of standard foilmaybe that's why you can only stand 2 coals and others can stand 3less heat will get to the shisha with it double-foiled or it will take a bit longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 okay, everyone know 5 coco's on a phunnel is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxik916 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 For my small I use 3 coco's and the mini I use two coco's split in half with all four pieces on the bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyj316 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Who uses coal?!? I use an acetylene torch!Actually, I use 2-3 cocos when smoking pretty much everything... but then again, I normally smoke outside, so that requires quite a bit more heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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