mushrat Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 and the fight continues.http://www.dailytarheel.com/news/features/...ookah-1.1752823 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromecarz00 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 What do you think will happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 post up a link to one of the senators to send an email to and i will gladly give them a piece of my mind. im sure many other member would be glad to as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwood Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Adam, you're doing an admirable job of campaigning for your rights and your livelihood here. Is there anything we here on the forum can do to help you? I'd happily pretend to be an NC resident and call "my senator" for you, if you think that will help make a difference. I'll also happily help you research similar exemptions in other states/cities.Class struggle sells your plight well. I'd stick with it. It doesn't harm anyone to amend the word "cigar" to "tobacco products" in the current legislation, and clearly it would do you a world of good.Keep it up -- bring us in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplexCoda Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 You know, I have been loosing faith in the American way of government for a while. I totally agree with your quote in the article mushy, they didnt do anything to help you start, now they want to close you down with no compensation. They would allow country clubs to continue to serve whatever they want to. I wonder if that has anything to do with the senators membership there? Mush just know that im thinkin about you and your family and hope the best for you guys. Let me know if theres someway i can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUE&GOLD Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (mushrat @ May 22 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>and the fight continues.http://www.dailytarheel.com/news/features/...ookah-1.1752823 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromecarz00 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Invite your senators and everyone to a free day at your bar. On that day, get a number of your favorite customers and have the place packed as a whole event against it. Make sure its mellow enough for a government official, but fun enough that they are impressed. Have it as a free event if you can, or highly discounted. You may loose a lot of money on that day, but considering that or shutting down your biz, which is the lesser evil. Good for a last - ditch attempt for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampy6997 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 idk if it's much but I contacted a top editor/major columnist that I know who works for a major paper up in dc...I don't know what he can do, but I asked if there was anything he could do, it'd be helpful i mean....it's nc...and it's tobacco. Something's wrong when the gov't cuts down on a major industry for a state. that's like closing disney world in florida (or all the strip clubs in miami/tampa...lol). if he can help, it won't be small. *crosses fingers*At a minimum, it'd make a big stink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 hopefully the two politicians quoted get off their ass and push an amendment in soon. Hopefully it gets in there and the law will be set in Mush's favor and the politicians will be content and leave his shit alone in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 what is you served molasses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Ninja Robot Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 We have to be able to do something. Is there an email address or something that we can write to or a number we can all call? We would need to have order and organization so as not to come off as a bunch of angry miscreant kids.If the local scene has failed to lobby we HAVE to have some kind of impact.Mush would you be willing to let us put something together to help you? I don't know how much an international online community could help the cause but it's worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Shit.Not sure I have anything else worth adding....I've sent you a pm with an idea Mush.... It's not something for public consumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 QUOTE Sen. William Purcell, D-Anson, said he thought the smoking ban was a good idea and knew that it would shut down some hookah bars.QUOTE He said some hookah bars could qualify as cigar bars with some modifications, and the senate will work to get an amendment passed for the hookah bars to stay in business.QUOTE “I’ve never been to a hookah bar and I don’t know all that they do,” Purcell said. “But I’m not interested in closing anybody’s business.”Does this bullshit sound odd to anyone else. This asshole wants to shut down hookah bars, which he knows NOTHING about. Then he goes on to say that he knows some hookah bars (which he knows nothing about) will be able to modify themselves to be considered a cigar bar. What a load of bullshit. I thought the point of congress and government was to serve the people? It sounds like all they are doing is serving themselves. This guy seems like a real .I agree mush, you need to set that asshole down in your bar and show him that hookah is amazing and nothing like ciggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majid Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Try getting advice from the cigarshops that are already exempt. Legally you may be able to walk the same route. Good luck man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Look at the state's legal definitions of cigars. You may find a legal loophole there. If they're definition is loose, you may be able to argue that you're serving cigars. Its up to them to prove you're not serving cigars. You're just grinding them up before use. Sorry, thats all I got, man.California's State tax on hookah tobacco is going down, too. I kinda feel weird that the tobacco capital of the USA is more stringent on tobacco than California...its like some bad dream I'm expecting to wake up from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah_Bob3 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Set up a member's only club. Sell them a card for 5$ that shows they're a member for 1 year. Don't serve anyone who doesn't have a card. I think that's what I got out of the "private club" part of the legislation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 QUOTE (Hookah_Bob3 @ May 23 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Set up a member's only club. Sell them a card for 5$ that shows they're a member for 1 year. Don't serve anyone who doesn't have a card. I think that's what I got out of the "private club" part of the legislationThe Private members club has to be associated to a charity somehow. You would have to set the bar up as you say above,but then have a formal connection to a charity and make regular, sizeable, donations at the very least.JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 I can't go cigar, the cigar bars have to have 60% in sales in alchohol and 25% in cigars. even if you substitute hookah for cigar i dont sell that much beer. Thanks for the support folks. It's looking....interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Looks like you're really gonna have to gather some friends and start pounding beer!haha, jk ... anyways ... goodluck with it all, hope it works out.If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 NOw thew damn press is interested in the story. I've been getting requests for interviews from all sorts of place. Where the fuck were these people when we were trying to block the law in the first place. Ah well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineout Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 keep us updated mushy, if theres anything we as a hookah community can do let everyone know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookie The Hookah Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Ahhhh, this makes me so mad. Is it just me or are politicians the most forcefully immature people on earth?On a side note, I'll be sure to make the trip down to hookahbliss before (if) anything happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 best thing you can do if you are out of state is make sure this doesn't happen in YOUR state without a fight.If you are inside NC, write letters to the Editor and make sure you dont let these pricks get re-elected come November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 So is that it for you Mush? Are you planning to close the doors come January now, or is there still a way for you to fight this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 oh we're still fighting. a few people in the house claim they bare still trying to get me an amendment to add as a rider to another smoking bill. If that works we're ok. If it doesn't, then we go to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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