Tyler Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 So I was at a buddy's house who ordered some tangiers, and we packed up a bowl and smoked it. The clouds were fine but it tasted like pure tobacco, like no flavoring. His shisha was about the same wettness as my tangiers and we packed it the same way I do, but we got literally no flavor, so we ditched that bowl and repacked a different flavor, and the same thing happened. Not sure whats up as I never have trouble getting flavor from Tangiers but both of his packs tasted like just pure tobacco, it was Orange Soda and Static Starlight that we had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RingsMaster Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 QUOTE (FSUReligionMan @ May 29 2009, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So I was at a buddy's house who ordered some tangiers, and we packed up a bowl and smoked it. The clouds were fine but it tasted like pure tobacco, like no flavoring. His shisha was about the same wettness as my tangiers and we packed it the same way I do, but we got literally no flavor, so we ditched that bowl and repacked a different flavor, and the same thing happened. Not sure whats up as I never have trouble getting flavor from Tangiers but both of his packs tasted like just pure tobacco, it was Orange Soda and Static Starlight that we had.did you aclimate it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 i'd assume so since it was smoking fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammoura1 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 This happens to all shisha. I recommand making sure that:1) the hookah is spankin clean2)new water in the vase3) the hose is clean *** that one is pretty important Try smoking directly form the hookah, see if its the hose that is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted May 30, 2009 Author Share Posted May 30, 2009 Yeah it was acclimated according to him. We tried doing a base hit thinking it was the hose, but still nothing. We always use fresh water in our base and I'm pretty sure he cleans his hookah regularly. I dunno, its just weird. I'm going back over tonight with my tangiers to see if it's his hookah or the shisha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Eric keeps warning people that when baccy sits, glycerine goes to the bottom, flavor goes to the top. Might be part of your problem. Was it the bottom of the bag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 could be the coals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Gotta make sure on packing it that your stir the CRAP out of the shisha, and like Eric said in a different thread, load it like a "cake" layer (so from top to bottom of your container, NOT loading it JUST off of the top of the shisha).And, it may be the coals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momatik Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 I've had the same problem previously, but I just figured it was a bad batch.Nice smoke, just no flavor. Happened with both shnozzberry and tropical punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted May 30, 2009 Author Share Posted May 30, 2009 I made sure to stir it, so that wasn't the problem. We tried the orange soda again tonight from his batch and no flavor, then from my batch, packed and everything the exact same and we got flavor. Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 also it could be the packaging you have. i remember when i was using ziplocks for my containers i would get no flavor. it would just disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted May 30, 2009 Author Share Posted May 30, 2009 We both store it in old SB containers. Maybe it was just a bad batch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 (edited) Happened to me too, I dont know why. I store my tangiers in Ziplock containers, gladware containers and now glass bowls!I would get that feeling in my mouth like I am smoking a cigar... Edited May 30, 2009 by newjacksm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 dont know what to say, ive ordered alot of tangiers and the only 3 reasons i wouldnt get flavor are..A) coals are bad container isnt good enoughC) bowl is cashed and no more flavor is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapten Kanel Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Defineatly a acclimation problem, did the tobacco smell good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted May 30, 2009 Author Share Posted May 30, 2009 Yup, the acclimation was fine it smelt just like the batch I had, we used the same 3K coals. Like I said, everything was teh same between the two batches of shisha except one got flavor and one didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Ive clean my hookah like hell never once has green crap poured out if it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 QUOTE (newjacksm @ May 30 2009, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ive clean my hookah like hell never once has green crap poured out if ityou get the green crap when your hookah is made of brass ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Two things that come to mind.1) You're smoking out of a Chinese Hookah or one with a common chamber bell. Its accumulated some insoluble material and is masking the flavor.2) If the humidity and the temperature go up, it will produce a strange acclimation issue that results in no flavor. I've seen it...recently, even. The same tobacco will rebound. It will smell normal, but have no flavor...it also may be accompanied by extra juice leakage. The first time it happened with me is when I was still developing Tangiers. I was shocked. I tried two different flavors and no flavor. I was disgusted so I pulled out Nakhla Double Apple and got the same no flavor result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 QUOTE (Sonthert @ May 30 2009, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I was disgusted so I pulled out Nakhla Double Apple and got the same no flavor result.weird, i don`t understand how you can possibly get no flavour out of nakhla DA, you should have at least gotten a hint of anise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 None. No flavor. Swear.Its some phenomena associated with warmer jar water and a sudden increase in humidity. The clouds are nice and thick, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted May 31, 2009 Author Share Posted May 31, 2009 Well it was right after we had a pretty big thunderstorm chain for 2-3 days so the humidity could have something to do with it, but if it messed up his batch why not mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 One of you had last acclimated yours sooner than the other...or at different houses with different environmental preparations (one has dehumidification, or air conditioning and the other doesn't...etc.). It should bounce back.Alternately, it could be a serving issue (Not balancing taking off the top and the bottom, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted May 31, 2009 Author Share Posted May 31, 2009 He called me today after trying to reacclimate his, saying it had some flavor, not as much as normal but more than nothing. It was a weird exp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Lately the only problems I have been having are leaking down the phunnel any tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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