lowspeedchase Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Hey guys...I call upon your wisdom... *Imagine the scene from ace ventura where he is chanting and flying through the mountains to the temple* (ok I need some sleep)Anyways, I was smoking F-Line Kashmir (deliciousness to the max) with a new girl last nite... I wasn't really thinking when I packed it, and hadn't really asked her how much experience she has had with smoking in general... and as you can probably imagine she ended up gagging and choking like crazy...So, I quickly re-packed with Lucid Cactus Fruit... I figured that would fix things up but for her she just still felt the tingle in the back of her throat... I ended up repacking, FOR THE THIRD TIME, with Romman Good Times... and she finally could relax (mission accomplished lol)So my question: Is there a way I can "cut" the effect of Tangiers a little? She was almost ok with Lucid but not quite... should I mix it with another brand of shisha? I kinda don't want to do that because I love Tangiers flavor and don't want to lose that... I talked it up big-time and ended up with egg on my face haha (by no fault of Tangiers, I'm still a huge fan)...Well, in the meantime I let her pick a bunch of Rammon/SB from hookah-shisha.com and here is what she came up with (I ordered it 20 min ago)Nammor Hookah Hose:: large blackCoco Nara Hookah Coals (84 Pieces)Starbuzz 100g #1:: sour appleStarbuzz 100g #2:: apple martiniStarbuzz 100g #3:: cotton candyStarbuzz 100g #1:: irish creamStarbuzz 100g #2:: passion fruit mojitoStarbuzz 100g #3:: code 69 - NEW!Starbuzz 100g #1:: cosmopolitanStarbuzz 100g #2:: safari melon dewStarbuzz 100g #3:: pink - NEW!Romman 50g #1:: ivory coast (pineapple/grapefruit)Romman 50g #2:: chocolate strawberry - NEW!Romman 50g #3:: lemon mintRomman 50g #4:: raspberryRomman 50g #5:: spearmint gumI think I'll be ok but cotton candy/irish cream? *GACK*Any help you guys can offer with the Tangiers would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalsmoker Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I dont care what anyone says starbuzz pink is the shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Tingle in the throat with Tangiers usually means one of two things:A ) You didn't pack it tight enough. Jam that shit in there (assuming you have a phunnel).B ) Too much heat. Use less coal. If you're using quicklights, try cutting them in thirds and add a third at a time til it smokes good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedchase Posted June 8, 2009 Author Share Posted June 8, 2009 QUOTE (norcalsmoker @ Jun 8 2009, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I dont care what anyone says starbuzz pink is the shit!Sweet, something to look forward to.QUOTE (Zinite @ Jun 8 2009, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Tingle in the throat with Tangiers usually means one of two things:A ) You didn't pack it tight enough. Jam that shit in there (assuming you have a phunnel).B ) Too much heat. Use less coal. If you're using quicklights, try cutting them in thirds and add a third at a time til it smokes good.Well I thought I had my method down perfect... but I'll try packing it in tighter for her. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (lowspeedchase @ Jun 9 2009, 07:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>but I'll try packing it in tighter for her.i lol'd...sorry. but, yeah...just work on your technique. i know a few of my friends can't hang with the way tangiers smokes....so, i put a little more tobacco and pack it denser than how i sits in the bag. this usually smooths it out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactorE Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 dude! starbuzz pink is the shit!!! i love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krizz Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) I've seen that the phunnel can sometimes give an easier smoke, however if she's new to hookahs and doesn't smoke cigarettes then tangiers will probably be a bad idea. You can try mixing it with weaker tobacco but it could screw with the taste. Just do what you're doing and start her with starbuzz/alfakher/romman. Anyone who has been new to smoking in general tends to not be able to handle tangiers very well, from what i've seen. If you didn't notice anything then i doubt there was something wrong with the way you packed it.edit: spelling Edited June 9, 2009 by krizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedchase Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (arcane @ Jun 8 2009, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (lowspeedchase @ Jun 9 2009, 07:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>but I'll try packing it in tighter for her.i lol'd...sorry. but, yeah...just work on your technique. i know a few of my friends can't hang with the way tangiers smokes....so, i put a little more tobacco and pack it denser than how i sits in the bag. this usually smooths it out for them.haha yah when I re-read that I Quagmire chuckled. I'm going to try the denser packing method.QUOTE (krizz @ Jun 9 2009, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've seen that the phunnel can sometimes give an easier smoke, however if she's new to hookahs and doesn't smoke cigarettes then tangiers will probably be a bad idea. You can try mixing it with weaker tobacco but it could screw with the taste. Just do what you're doing and start her with starbuzz/alfakher/romman. Anyone who has been new to smoking in general tends to not be able to handle tangiers very well, from what i've seen. If you didn't notice anything then i doubt there was something wrong with the way you packed it.edit: spellingI think you are right, she has never smoked anything before... so I will break her in on the Romman/SB. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamiliarJoe Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 OT but where in So Fla are you? Im in Central FL, O-town / Daytona area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedchase Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (FamiliarJoe @ Jun 9 2009, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>OT but where in So Fla are you? Im in Central FL, O-town / Daytona area.As north as you can get in Fort Lauderdale and still be in Fort Lauderdale Between Commercial and Atlantic on US1.I used to go up to o-town all the time to visit my ex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColibriDon Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I would say it's the technique. More tobacco in the bowl should have you set. If this still doesn't fix it and you're getting good clouds and flavor with no throat-effects, it could just be her. I would also say to caution her against smoking for the first 5 minutes or so as Tangiers OG usually needs some time to calm down. If all of this fails, then light up some AF. Eventually she'll like Tangiers and you can move on to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedchase Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (ColibriDon @ Jun 9 2009, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I would say it's the technique. More tobacco in the bowl should have you set. If this still doesn't fix it and you're getting good clouds and flavor with no throat-effects, it could just be her. I would also say to caution her against smoking for the first 5 minutes or so as Tangiers OG usually needs some time to calm down. If all of this fails, then light up some AF. I think it is just her, I never have any problems with Tangiers...QUOTE (ColibriDon @ Jun 9 2009, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Eventually she'll like Tangiers and you can move on to that.We'll see if she lasts that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 The only flavor in SB that you got that seems a little eh is sour apple, it's definately not my fav...and I'm one of the few SB junkies. Everything else is good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedchase Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (FSUReligionMan @ Jun 9 2009, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The only flavor in SB that you got that seems a little eh is sour apple, it's definately not my fav...and I'm one of the few SB junkies. Everything else is good though.Badassery... Good to know I didn't buy a lot of stuff I won't like. Thanks man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Unless she smokes regularly her throat should tingle. It's her body responding to the completely new and foreign presence in her throat! I smoke cigarettes on and off (mostly off, unless I am working at certain places) and every time I go back to smoking my throat hurts a while. Its the nature of the game. Your body has to adjust. Tangiers may create more of a tickle, but I would be surprised (assuming she smoked a full/real session worth) if she didn't wake up with a sore throat the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedchase Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Vladimir @ Jun 9 2009, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Unless she smokes regularly her throat should tingle. It's her body responding to the completely new and foreign presence in her throat! I smoke cigarettes on and off (mostly off, unless I am working at certain places) and every time I go back to smoking my throat hurts a while. Its the nature of the game. Your body has to adjust. Tangiers may create more of a tickle, but I would be surprised (assuming she smoked a full/real session worth) if she didn't wake up with a sore throat the next day.She woke up with dry mouth Well her body better get used to it fast, I like doing it all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilded777 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I'm with the denser pack, less heat crowd. Not a big fan of the more tobacco method, though it is what the man himself would suggest.I got 3 other people onto Tangiers with a tight pack and careful heat management, and two of them don't smoke anything while the other smokes girly cigarettes. I think its was Kashmir Peach....So it can be done; and you have probably just gotten to the point where you don't notice what Tangiers can do sometimes. Its easy to ignore/miss the downside when you are digging it. It happens to me... I get my partner to take a puff, and realize the bowl could be really be a lot nicer than it currently is because I was just digging and not paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedchase Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (evilded777 @ Jun 9 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm with the denser pack, less heat crowd. Not a big fan of the more tobacco method, though it is what the man himself would suggest.I got 3 other people onto Tangiers with a tight pack and careful heat management, and two of them don't smoke anything while the other smokes girly cigarettes. I think its was Kashmir Peach....So it can be done; and you have probably just gotten to the point where you don't notice what Tangiers can do sometimes. Its easy to ignore/miss the downside when you are digging it. It happens to me... I get my partner to take a puff, and realize the bowl could be really be a lot nicer than it currently is because I was just digging and not paying attention.I think you got me pegged man... I am probably just to happy to realize it is harsh... a delicious bowl of Tangiers will do that to you (the chick helps too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyj316 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (norcalsmoker @ Jun 8 2009, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I dont care what anyone says starbuzz is shit!Fixed for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I'm wondering if maybe you would have done step two in place of step one her throat may not have had that initial irritation and she may have been okay? Once my throat gets a little irritated it does not take much to aggravate it. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedchase Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Scalliwag @ Jun 9 2009, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm wondering if maybe you would have done step two in place of step one her throat may not have had that initial irritation and she may have been okay? Once my throat gets a little irritated it does not take much to aggravate it. Just a thought.That's a good idea... next time she is over I will start with a Lucid and see if she can take it. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactorE Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 hey lowspeedchase, my advise to you will be to always serve tonic or starbuzz or sometimes even fusion to women new to smoking. The other stuff may make new hooker smokes quit immediately lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedchase Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (FactorE @ Jun 9 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>may make new hooker smokes quit immediately lolDaaammnnn I really hope that was a Freudian slip... thats hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (lowspeedchase @ Jun 9 2009, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (FactorE @ Jun 9 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>may make new hooker smokes quit immediately lolDaaammnnn I really hope that was a Freudian slip... thats hilariousHAHA!!! and I was trying so hard not to mention that the first thing you need to find on a new galpal is their gag reflex and help them work past it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowspeedchase Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 QUOTE (Scalliwag @ Jun 9 2009, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (lowspeedchase @ Jun 9 2009, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (FactorE @ Jun 9 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>may make new hooker smokes quit immediately lolDaaammnnn I really hope that was a Freudian slip... thats hilariousHAHA!!! and I was trying so hard not to mention that the first thing you need to find on a new galpal is their gag reflex and help them work past it Agreed! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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