Do You Have Trouble Getting Tangiers To Acclimate?

[Sonthert]

Who has Trouble Getting Tangiers to Acclimate? None of it Acclimates, only some of it acclimates, whatever...Its got to be environmental in some regard...

If you fit that description: Respond following, please. IF I can figure it out, I'll make it worth your while.

If you haven't had any trouble with Tangiers acclimating, I love you, but please refrain from responding in this thread.

Edit: Regular Tangiers Line only, please.

[lowspeedchase]

I think you are looking for people who have problems acclimating all their shisha... but I'll relate what happened with my last (first order of tangiers).

I had the normal problems getting everything to work, but after a lot of coaching and suggestions I was able to get most of it to smoke great. Except for OG Pear. It smelled like a mix between BBQ and Soy Sauce, even after 24 hours of accli in its tub.

So last night I spread it out real thin all over tinfoil... this morning, same smell. Is it possible to have one bad bag? Maybe it came from another warehouse where the temp/humidity was way off?

I dunno but it is frustrating, I want juicy pear deliciousness.

edit: spelling, it urks me. Edited June 12, 2009 by lowspeedchase

[Stuie]

Well like I posted a few weeks ago Tried Lucid Sour Grape after acclimating again. The flavor is so mild and it still has a tobacco taste. Haven't retried OG Brambleberry, really strong tobacco taste. But Lemon just acclimated perfectly this week and tastes great.

[beantownhookah]

so far im only having trouble getting Brambleberry 2 acclimate. Peachy Peach and chocomint have acclimated fine. Brambleberry smelled fine after about 2 hours of acclimating once i got it in the mail, but i was busy and never got around 2 smoking it. now it just smells like straight tobacco. There's a faint smell of berries but not like when i first got it.

[antouwan]

i think i left the stuff opened way too long. i had quite a few OG tangiers types: melon blend and indigo flower are the two that stick out. all the stuff has been open, hanging out acclimating for months and months. i think all that time open just killed the flavor. my friends and i LOVE nakhla sweet melon, and i remembered that i had some of your melon blend and i knew tangiers = great clouds and insane smoke SO obviously the plan was to smoke some melon blend. complete shit. i had to take the bowl off and load up some nak because the taste was not of melons and was something coal-y. it wasn't harsh or anything. the same thing was true with the indigo flower - the flavor just wasn't there at all - the smoke was great, but the flavor was weak - it tasted mainly like jap coals. the other night i had some f-line cocoa with some buddies and the smoke was thin and the flavor weak...not harsh at all though.

also: i still haven't figured out how to successfully pack a tang head with tang without making a complete fucking mess, i.e. juices dripping down the side discoloring the base water, juice all over the inside of the head gasket et al

edit: i know you said noir only, but i had some strawberry, watermelon, and tasty peach lucid which completely shat out on me. tasted mainly like air and reeked completely of tobacco when opened the container. Edited June 12, 2009 by antouwan

[HsK BATES]

I had ordered 2 250g things of lucid tangiers from hookah company and after a week they finally arrived. Opening the bags and sticking them into there containers was a treat however the smoking was not.
The bowl i packed, i sprinkled into a funnel bowl and poked holes straight to the bottom. There were clouds but no taste. I then went back on here and asked questions and opinions and was told to try acclimating it(note this is lucid). after acclimating it yet again i tried my watermelon lucid. I packed it using the scoop method and compressed it down and poked holes to the bottom. good smoke again but no strong taste. Its been 3 weeks now and i have tried both the bramble and watermelon several times to only get the same results. I don't know whats up. iv tried everything

[Zinite]

Most of my Tangiers acclimates fine, but I've had trouble with Blueberry and Red Tea. The Blueberry was sitting out for a total of around 30 hours. The Red Tea was out for 10 hours then out for another 10 hours a few days later. This was in the winter in Tucson, Arizona.

[mattarios2]

everyone remember, he only wants OG information, not lucid.

[beantownhookah]

so far im only having trouble getting Brambleberry 2 acclimate. Peachy Peach and chocomint have acclimated fine. Brambleberry smelled fine after about 2 hours of acclimating once i got it in the mail, but i was busy and never got around 2 smoking it. now it just smells like straight tobacco. There's a faint smell of berries but not like when i first got it.

*update*
ive had Bberry acclimating since like 9 this mornin, it smells somewhat like it supposed 2, no tabacco smell nor bbq or licorice smell. But its harsh as fuck, i dont think its too much heat, i think its just the nicotine kicking my ass, ill pass over on Bberry for awhile.

[FamiliarJoe]

I've always had trouble with acclimating. My first purchase of OG grapefruit never got around to smelling like anything other than soy sauce. I've had similar results with any other flavor (blueberry, schnozz, watermelon, horchata, orange soda, etc.). If I do muster up the courage to smoke a bowl it always ends up harsh and/or flavorless. I've tried several packing methods, different coal types and amounts but still no smoke like the smoke described by most Tangiers users here.

I live in Miami.

Another floridian with acclimating problems

[HsK BATES]

everyone remember, he only wants OG information, not lucid.

well thats fucking retarted. theres plenty of us who are having problems with lucid. whatever. nothing like wasting money i guess

[mattarios2]

everyone remember, he only wants OG information, not lucid.

well thats fucking retarted. theres plenty of us who are having problems with lucid. whatever. nothing like wasting money i guess

that may be true but i think the majority is from the og line. Have you tried lowering the amount of heat for the lucid? i didnt have any probs with lucid, but i am a fan of a buzz so i don't smoke lucid, i want the OG to work for me. From what i understand people who are getting no flavor from lucid need to use less heat.

Maybe give it a shot if you haven't

but back on topic, i don't want to thread jack this thread.

[annual]

everyone remember, he only wants OG information, not lucid.

well thats fucking retarted. theres plenty of us who are having problems with lucid. whatever. nothing like wasting money i guess

lol wasting money...

[Giant Ninja Robot]

I live in Michigan. Orange Soda acclimated perectly after 8 hjours or so, but maraschino cherry never completely lost a bit of harsh tanginess to it even after 24 or so hours of acclimation, smelled and tasted medicinal and of tobacco along with the cherry taste although that could be the flavor itself.

[Kapten Kanel]

Let's try to keep this thread clean, this is a initiative from Eric himself to try to solve the issue with acclimation which is more or less widespread (remember, the people with issues are heard the most, i don't think this issue is quite as big as it may seem at this forum). If you haven't got any valuable info on the subject to say, please don't post.
Im pretty new at this forum an nobody gives a crap about what i say but think about it, what we have here is a great opportunity to solve this issue or at least get some more understanding of it.

[Kapten Kanel]

*Edit timer...seriously, please, it needs to be discussed!

Back to the post...

Eric, if there is anything you need help with, testing a different acclimation method and so on, just say so, im quite eager to help out with this. If everything goes well, i'll do a order from hookah-shisha and include some OG tangiers, to see if there is any difference, kill the idea of mnhookah having a weird warehouse (lol) etc... Do you know if the shisha gets affected by outside humidity when its unopened in its original bag?

[mattarios2]

*Edit timer...seriously, please, it needs to be discussed!

Back to the post...

Eric, if there is anything you need help with, testing a different acclimation method and so on, just say so, im quite eager to help out with this. If everything goes well, i'll do a order from hookah-shisha and include some OG tangiers, to see if there is any difference, kill the idea of mnhookah having a weird warehouse (lol) etc... Do you know if the shisha gets affected by outside humidity when its unopened in its original bag?

i don't think it does because if it did, there wouldn't be humidity shock. It would acclimate to the climate when it gets into your state from the shipping carrier.

For people who acclimate tangiers successfully, they would not need to acclimate it, they would open it and it would ALWAYS be good to go, because as it is on the way to their house via ups/fedex/usps it would be acclimating, therefor removing most if not all of the neccessary acclimation when it arrives to your doorstep.

My belief is that if you are in a climate where the weather changes rapidly and the shisha continually goes into shock day in and day out, the tobacco eventually goes into a permanent shock and cannot get out of shock.

Ever notice 99.9999% of the time if not 100% of the time when people can't get it to acclimate properly ... it never ever eventually acclimates?

But then again my belief could be flawed because if i take a tub i have/had that won't acclimate and i send it to someone like Scoop or Mushrat or Sonthert, it would probably acclimate within 24 hours. So .. eh ... who knows i guess Sonthert should send me a 250, i will let it sit out for a couple weeks, see what happens ... if it goes back and forth back and forth like 95% of the time i will send it back to Sonthert where we know if it is gonna acclimate anywhere it would be where it is produced and see what happens. Just a thought ... :-)

[mohinder]

everyone remember, he only wants OG information, not lucid.

well thats fucking retarted. theres plenty of us who are having problems with lucid. whatever. nothing like wasting money i guess

Be fair, Eric is trying to get to the bottom of a problem people are having with the regular line and asked people to comment about the original line. No one's trying to stop you talking about whatever you like, but he posted this thread to get to the bottom of this problem that some people are having, in an effort to help, in an effort to make his product better for you, so you're NOT wasting money. Irrelevant posts (like, I suppose, this one) aren't going to help anyone. No one's telling you not to post about your problems with Lucid, just... this isn't the thread.

I can't think of very many products at all where the producer is so proactive in trying to make his product more effective for more people. You can't say he doesn't put in the legwork. A producer being so committed is a rare thing indeed.

[ilikemyusername]

Og only? man, after the 750g lucid i never got right, I'm not even trying.

[liquidglass]

Alright I've been doing tangiers for about a year so here are my acclimating woes.

FACTS:
-Acclimation technique 1A) spreading out on foil for most of the day if needed and stirring with fork or 1B) Putting in lock n lock container, and stirring with fork occasionally

-Bought all tangiers from www.hookahshisha.com in Texas

-Live towards the eastern part of NC (in case you're taking geographical humidty/weather into account)



Problems:

1) Strawberry and Rootbeer, never acclimated quite right. But I realize these are weaker 'smelling' flavors and the acclimation is some what different with them. After attempting to acclimate i put them in lock n locks' and they smelled better a few months later, but still not up to what I consider par for tangiers.

2) Blueberry: I got the new OG release (end of last year I believe) of the blueberry flavor and I'm honestly not sure what's going on with it. The very first time I smoked it, it tasted fucking amazing. And since then it's a hit and miss. It can smell relatively well but have little to no flavor. And the acclimation on it is tricky as it seems to go on and off taste/smell randomly

3) Pink Grapefruit & Tropical Revenge: These two are tricky as well. The first batch I got smoked AMAZINGLY. Throughout the entire 250gs. Since then I've ordered 2 of each at different times and neither has even attempted to reach the awesomeness that made up my first batches. I've had the last few orders sitting in lock n locks attempting to acclimate every so often. Nothing works. I can get a small taste, but nothing like I expect from these based on my first experience.


Other than that pretty much every flavor has acclimated the way it should over time. The ones mentioned Either are tricky to acclimate or never acclimate)

[Sonthert]

Whew. This Thread's a disaster. I'll lock this thread, redefine the question and move appropriate responses over. We need to reduce the number of variables to a bare minimum to solve the problem. Once we solve the problem, then we can reapply the logic to other areas, like Lucid or partial acclimation issues. I do want to help you guys, and I'll try my best, but some of you are having partial acclimation issues, which may or might not be related.

[Sonthert]

I had ordered 2 250g things of lucid tangiers from hookah company and after a week they finally arrived. Opening the bags and sticking them into there containers was a treat however the smoking was not.
The bowl i packed, i sprinkled into a funnel bowl and poked holes straight to the bottom. There were clouds but no taste. I then went back on here and asked questions and opinions and was told to try acclimating it(note this is lucid). after acclimating it yet again i tried my watermelon lucid. I packed it using the scoop method and compressed it down and poked holes to the bottom. good smoke again but no strong taste. Its been 3 weeks now and i have tried both the bramble and watermelon several times to only get the same results. I don't know whats up. iv tried everything

How much charcoal are you using? What type of charcoal are you using?

Do you still have the paper wrappers from the Tangiers? If not, whom did you order from?

[Sonthert]

Oh, apparently, I'm going to unlock this thread and help people individually either by PM or post that don't necessarily fit into the context of the study but have problems nonetheless.