freeOS Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 So I just had the blueberry Hydro Herbal and it wasn't bad at all (though we're drinking). I've checked the official website and done some searching on here and can't find any info on it's components. It doesn't seem like Black Label or Soex at all. Someone said it might be corn husks. Any definitive word? Perhaps a hookah-shisha.com rep on here?Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moefasaaa Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 I'm not quite sure, but try giving hookah-shisha a call...they're always good with customer service, I've called em after 11pm on a sunday and someone still picked up to answer a question of mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeOS Posted June 13, 2009 Author Share Posted June 13, 2009 That's crazy hours. You're my neighbor. We're in Ballston/North Arlington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalsmoker Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 I dont know whats in it but Hydro is definately the best herbal brand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunK Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 made of sugar cane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imsomint Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (DrunK @ Jun 13 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>made of sugar caneThat's what I was pretty sure it was. Not bad stuff imo, fucking easy to clean up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Most of the herbal is a sugar cane base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (Imsomint @ Jun 13 2009, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (DrunK @ Jun 13 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>made of sugar caneThat's what I was pretty sure it was. Not bad stuff imo, fucking easy to clean up.Most likely Sugar Cane Bagasse.Health risks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagasse"Workplace exposure to dusts from the processing of Bagasse can cause the chronic lung condition pulmonary fibrosis."So inhaling sugar cane bagasse particles can cause pulmonary fibrosis. And we're expected to SMOKE the stuff... Obviously no studies have been done, but I'll stick to tobacco. At least I KNOW how that is going to kill me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeOS Posted June 13, 2009 Author Share Posted June 13, 2009 I've already found plenty of speculation, but no viable sources. Also, since it looks 100% different than other herbals brands, I'm quite skeptical.The Bagasse health speculation doesn't help to much either as dust and cooking to smoke point are completely different vectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunK Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 its jus plain worse for u than tobacco. it takes the point away IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeOS Posted June 14, 2009 Author Share Posted June 14, 2009 I love how everyone is willing to chime in w/o any sources or valid, proven info.Please people, from here on out so that it can actually be useful info for those interested, let's keep it clinical.Sources, articles, links, or GTFO :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 QUOTE (freeOS @ Jun 13 2009, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I love how everyone is willing to chime in w/o any sources or valid, proven info.Please people, from here on out so that it can actually be useful info for those interested, let's keep it clinical.Sources, articles, links, or GTFO :/I sure hope you aren't referring to me. Sugar Cane Bagasse is a common component in herbal shishas. Until someone at Hydro confirms otherwise, we can assume that it is a bagasse based compound. Inhalation of bagasse is detrimental to the lungs. Though inhalation of bagasse through a vapor may be different, the truth is we do not know either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeOS Posted June 14, 2009 Author Share Posted June 14, 2009 QUOTE (Zinite @ Jun 13 2009, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I sure hope you aren't referring to me. Sugar Cane Bagasse is a common component in herbal shishas. Until someone at Hydro confirms otherwise, we can assume that it is a bagasse based compound. Inhalation of bagasse is detrimental to the lungs. Though inhalation of bagasse through a vapor may be different, the truth is we do not know either way.Counterpoints: 1. It has not yet been established that Hydro uses sugarcane. (You paint all herbals with the same brush; do you have a source to back it up?) 2. Your latest post differs from the one where you pose bagasse dust inhalation issues as the same to cooking vapors. 3. You are only one of many who are posting "answers" without backing them up. There's been a pile of people posting speculation in this thread, which is counterproductive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 QUOTE (freeOS @ Jun 13 2009, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Zinite @ Jun 13 2009, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I sure hope you aren't referring to me. Sugar Cane Bagasse is a common component in herbal shishas. Until someone at Hydro confirms otherwise, we can assume that it is a bagasse based compound. Inhalation of bagasse is detrimental to the lungs. Though inhalation of bagasse through a vapor may be different, the truth is we do not know either way.Counterpoints: 1. It has not yet been established that Hydro uses sugarcane. (You paint all herbals with the same brush; do you have a source to back it up?) 2. Your latest post differs from the one where you pose bagasse dust inhalation issues as the same to cooking vapors. 3. You are only one of many who are posting "answers" without backing them up. There's been a pile of people posting speculation in this thread, which is counterproductive.1. I never said Hydro uses Sugarcane. I said I am assuming it is til they say otherwise.2) I never said that bagasse dust inhalation is the same as cooking vapors. Direct quote:QUOTE (Zinite @ Jun 13 2009, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So inhaling sugar cane bagasse particles can cause pulmonary fibrosis. And we're expected to SMOKE the stuff... Obviously no studies have been doneQUOTE (Zinite @ Jun 13 2009, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Inhalation of bagasse is detrimental to the lungs. Though inhalation of bagasse through a vapor may be different, the truth is we do not know either way.I'm saying the same thing either way. The inhalation of this particle is very harmful (If you need a source for this, I'll just tell you there is a disease named after the inhalation of bagasse, bagassosis or bagasse disease). That's just fact. What we don't know is how big of a difference smoking it through a hookah makes. This same logic can be applied to the cigarettes vs. hookah debate.3. I never claimed to have the answers. I'm merely stating what's already known about other herbal brands. Take it or leave it. I'm not trying to start a debate about the health factors of smoking bagasse.Best of luck getting answers out of Hydro or H-S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeOS Posted June 14, 2009 Author Share Posted June 14, 2009 QUOTE (Zinite @ Jun 13 2009, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Take it or leave it.I'll go with leave it, as it's all OT for what this threads aims are. We're no closer to documenting what this mystery base component of Hydro is that seems so different from the other herbal offerings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 QUOTE (freeOS @ Jun 13 2009, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Zinite @ Jun 13 2009, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Take it or leave it.I'll go with leave it, as it's all OT for what this threads aims are. We're no closer to documenting what this mystery base component of Hydro is that seems so different from the other herbal offerings.Because no one here knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamiliarJoe Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 QUOTE (freeOS @ Jun 13 2009, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Zinite @ Jun 13 2009, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Take it or leave it.I'll go with leave it, as it's all OT for what this threads aims are. We're no closer to documenting what this mystery base component of Hydro is that seems so different from the other herbal offerings.Most of us here have read the thread that did have links to "proof" that bagasse or w/e was said to be worse for you than tobacco. I believe it was mentioned when Scalli was making his own herbal shisha.Just saying. That's prolly where Zinite got his info. I am convinced it's worse. Yes I know this is OT, but all threads get OT...just something that happens in a discussion on any forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeOS Posted June 14, 2009 Author Share Posted June 14, 2009 All of these additions are totally OT because you all went off about bagasse when you don't know what Hydro is made out of, when the whole thread is called "Hydro Herbal Shisha Main Component?" If nobody knows, just let the thread die, rather than adding pointless speculation about non related shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 QUOTE (freeOS @ Jun 14 2009, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>All of these additions are totally OT because you all went off about bagasse when you don't know what Hydro is made out of, when the whole thread is called "Hydro Herbal Shisha Main Component?" If nobody knows, just let the thread die, rather than adding pointless speculation about non related shit.Why the fuck does it matter? We're talking about herbal shisha... it's not like we're discussing the effect of domesticated dachshunds on 18th century pre-American colonies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamiliarJoe Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 QUOTE (freeOS @ Jun 14 2009, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>All of these additions are totally OT because you all went off about bagasse when you don't know what Hydro is made out of, when the whole thread is called "Hydro Herbal Shisha Main Component?" If nobody knows, just let the thread die, rather than adding pointless speculation about non related shit.lmao, im not breaking any rules my friend. It is called a discussion. If it bothers you that's a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeOS Posted June 14, 2009 Author Share Posted June 14, 2009 Goddamnit. You still don't see. Someone asks a ingredient. A bunch of helpful fuckers chime in about totally unrelated shit and sully up the thread. For my money it's not even sugar cane so everything you and like 4 other people added has zero to do with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamiliarJoe Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 QUOTE (freeOS @ Jun 14 2009, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Goddamnit. You still don't see. Someone asks a ingredient. A bunch of helpful fuckers chime in about totally unrelated shit and sully up the thread. For my money it's not even sugar cane so everything you and like 4 other people added has zero to do with anything.If you want to know, ask a hookah-shisha rep like you said in your OP. I am getting a kick out of how I am ruining your day by just simply adding on to this discussion.Step off the rag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Not trying to say anything negative but out of curiosity what are the benefits of smoking herbal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeOS Posted June 14, 2009 Author Share Posted June 14, 2009 QUOTE (Voski @ Jun 14 2009, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not trying to say anything negative but out of curiosity what are the benefits of smoking herbal?None that I can tell unless someone is using it to wean themselves off tobacco/nicotine. My interest was originally sparked by articles mentioning shop owners switching over to herbals due to the bans in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 QUOTE (freeOS @ Jun 14 2009, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Goddamnit. You still don't see. Someone asks a ingredient. A bunch of helpful fuckers chime in about totally unrelated shit and sully up the thread. For my money it's not even sugar cane so everything you and like 4 other people added has zero to do with anything. Chill the fuck out - this is a community, not your personal blog. While you were the original poster, if the members of this community would like to develop the topic to include other subtopics, let it be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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