Most Natural Tasting/looking/smelling Shisha

[Sherwood]

man, "Natural" reads pretty fast and loose to me. I think you should actually start smoking, freeOS, and eschew our opinions. Yours will be different, and they will likely change.

[Sonthert]

I am opposed to the use of artificial colors. Its unnecessary from a health perspective, from a cost to the consumer perspective and from an ethical perspective.

[Arcane]

and from an ethical perspective.

how does ethics get involved? just curious...

[freeOS]

and from an ethical perspective.

how does ethics get involved? just curious...

Possibles:

• Colorants mis-represent the true nature of a given shisha
• Colorants are oft proven to be harmful in consumer products, thus later are pulled

Just my ideas for why colorants are total bullshit and should be avoided.

[TheHookah.com]

Nakhla is a dry tobacco. It is not supposed to be wet. It has been that way ever since I can remember and it is the same in the Middle East.

garbage ... i have family in the middle east that smoke shisha ... they say their nakhla is pretty wet no where near the dryness of what we get here ...

not complaining as nakhla is my main smoke ... dry or not ...

check out bulldogs photo of his can of DA in this thread linked below ... it isn't random that he got the can with that much juice in it ... that is the way it is supposed to be

http://www.hookahforum.com/?showtopic=29374

That looks pretty normal to be, the cans and the glass jars tend to be a little more wet than the box. That can does not seem out of the ordinary for Nakhla as far as moisture. They came out with the Mizo line to compete with gulf brands such as Al Fakher but Nakhla is a dry tobacco in comparison. That is just the way it was meant to be and there nothing wrong with that. Nakhla is the most consistent shisha brand I have seen to date. That double apple has smelled the same since I was a kid watching family friends smoke it in a good ol' Egyptian pipe.

[mattarios2]

Nakhla is a dry tobacco. It is not supposed to be wet. It has been that way ever since I can remember and it is the same in the Middle East.

garbage ... i have family in the middle east that smoke shisha ... they say their nakhla is pretty wet no where near the dryness of what we get here ...

not complaining as nakhla is my main smoke ... dry or not ...

check out bulldogs photo of his can of DA in this thread linked below ... it isn't random that he got the can with that much juice in it ... that is the way it is supposed to be

http://www.hookahforum.com/?showtopic=29374

That looks pretty normal to be, the cans and the glass jars tend to be a little more wet than the box. That can does not seem out of the ordinary for Nakhla as far as moisture. They came out with the Mizo line to compete with gulf brands such as Al Fakher but Nakhla is a dry tobacco in comparison. That is just the way it was meant to be and there nothing wrong with that. Nakhla is the most consistent shisha brand I have seen to date. That double apple has smelled the same since I was a kid watching family friends smoke it in a good ol' Egyptian pipe.

werd to that

[Sonthert]

Ethically? I think that artificial color is addd to misrepresent the product or be deceptive; attract children to the product or make the product look like it has fruit in it, when it does not.

[chinamon]

or make the product look like it has fruit in it, when it does not.

its funny how many non-hookah smokers that ive talked to who think there is actual fruit mixed in with the tobacco.

[Arcane]

Ethically? I think that artificial color is addd to misrepresent the product or be deceptive; attract children to the product or make the product look like it has fruit in it, when it does not.

hmmm...it never crossed my mind that that was the intention of the food coloring...just thought it was added to make it "pretty". or to somewhat represent the flavor you're smoking...i.e. mint is dyed green or blueberry is dyed blue.

[freeOS]

or to somewhat represent the flavor you're smoking...i.e. mint is dyed green or blueberry is dyed blue.

Or... the other way around if you're Havana

[mattarios2]

Ethically? I think that artificial color is addd to misrepresent the product or be deceptive; attract children to the product or make the product look like it has fruit in it, when it does not.

I was informed that it was made that way to help attract people to it, not children ... but adults who smoked cigarettes. Foreign governments wanted to help cigarette smokers quit ciggs by "attracting" them to shisha through food coloring because they "knew" cigarettes were more harmful than shisha.

Nakhla's website has a small reference to this ... and this is what my family in Lebanon tells me as well.

Also on a side note Eric: i'd like to have a discussion with you sometime about food coloring. A close relative of my family is the "insert occupation for head lab lady" at harvard university. She claims majority of the stuff on the web talking about food coloring is complete garbage, and they as well as many other reputable places have done extensive testing on food coloring and have found it to cause no ill harm, and to be carcinogen free. They claim if it caused anything ... you would need millions upon millions of servings for it to even increase your chances of anything ... even slightly. She says just like everything else ... use it in moderation and you should be fine.

But she does say that if it is in shisha, when the food coloring is heated ... many things could happen to it. She said she will look into it and get back to me.

I'd like to know your thoughts in more depth on the subject when being heated in our shisha, and when being consumed in our food.

[Sonthert]

Artificial coloring are banned in parts of Europe, there is data that suggests that artificial red and yellow flavors are linked to health problems, and yeah a lot of it is probably junk. Why take the chance? Is it necessary? Does it add anything to the product? If not, then why not skip it?

There was a lot of bull several years ago that the shisha was that color because it had fruit juice in it, which is completely false.

[mattarios2]

No, I completely agree w/ you Sonthert ... but i do think a lot of the info online about it is junk.