Every Bowl I Pack...the Outcome Just Disapoints Me

[momatik]

More holes, more tobacco. Try what seems like a ridiculous amount of tobacco in there.

Would you still need to push it down with your palm if you pack a lot like that? I'm thinking that could get messy.

[Arcane]

thought this might help to see how much tobacco i end up using...

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this small phunnel bowl, a soda can(to establish a size scale, kinda), and a newly opened Tangiers Passionfruit

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i sectioned off a piece of how much i think i need

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my packed bowl and what's left of the tobacco

didn't use all of it. the bowl ended up slightly overpacked, but i would've still smoked it and more than likely had great results. oh, and i get about 4-5 bowls per 250g. yep, i know...that's not a lot of sessions...but, still worth it to me.

[Arcane]

ended up smoking the bowl...here's the outcome:

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4 canarys

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decent clouds

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cheeze!!!

not harsh, tons of flavor, but the smoke tends to be a bit warm...the smoke is cool when i use my egyptian. weird, eh?

[Bulldog_916]

Jesus Christ man! I cant get away with having that much coal on my bowl. It would burn the hell up. 2 coals is the max on any small phunnel bowl of Tangiers for me. No wonder you guys go through bowls of Tangiers in 2 hours or less. You use too much damn heat, haha.

[annual]

Jesus Christ man! I cant get away with having that much coal on my bowl. It would burn the hell up. 2 coals is the max on any small phunnel bowl of Tangiers for me. No wonder you guys go through bowls of Tangiers in 2 hours or less. You use too much damn heat, haha.

you probably use more holes. He can get away with that because his lack of holes and it smokes great for him. Just know you can use less coal with more holes and get the same results.

[Bulldog_916]

Jesus Christ man! I cant get away with having that much coal on my bowl. It would burn the hell up. 2 coals is the max on any small phunnel bowl of Tangiers for me. No wonder you guys go through bowls of Tangiers in 2 hours or less. You use too much damn heat, haha.

you probably use more holes. He can get away with that because his lack of holes and it smokes great for him. Just know you can use less coal with more holes and get the same results.

Nooo, I use about the same amount he does, if not fewer. That's just a shit ton of coal for me. I'd damage my lungs forever.

[Arcane]

hmmmm...i think i use a lot of holes....and i poke all the way to the bottom. i took a pic, but didn't really think to post it since imo...the difference isn't too big.

but here ya go, same bowl i was smoking:
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and the bowl was going for a 3 hours-ish.. Edited June 21, 2009 by arcane

[FamiliarJoe]

thought this might help to see how much tobacco i end up using...

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this small phunnel bowl, a soda can(to establish a size scale, kinda), and a newly opened Tangiers Passionfruit

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i sectioned off a piece of how much i think i need

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my packed bowl and what's left of the tobacco

didn't use all of it. the bowl ended up slightly overpacked, but i would've still smoked it and more than likely had great results. oh, and i get about 4-5 bowls per 250g. yep, i know...that's not a lot of sessions...but, still worth it to me.

Thanks a LOT man. That actually helps me out a bit haha. Once I get a good session here I will tell you all the good news Going to try again before I go to work, just got home. That's a lot more tobacco than I use to be honest. I think im not putting enough in there when I slide the tobacco together and what not.

Time to experiment some more..

[mattarios2]

yep, there is a lot in there. if that is a new tub then that would be 70-80 grams give or take a bit.

[FamiliarJoe]

Update


I packed a bowl of OG Orange Soda using a mix of all the techniques you all posted. I also picked up some large golden QL's from my local shop..

GREAT BOWL!!!

I had huge clouds, great flavor, and hell of a buzz. The bowl is still going now but I don't think I can finish it. I will throw some more coals on when I get home from work and hope it still is ripping



THANKS A TON..to everyone who posted

The point of this thread was to help me figure out what I was doing wrong, I think I got it down. If I pack another good bowl tomorrow then ill know for sure if this is how I need to pack my Tangiers from now on.

[Moefasaaa]

congrats man good to hear.
my OG tangiers will have to sit in its tub till i can move into college...the AC in this house is off/on all friggin day and my shisha isnt getting acclimated right

[Moefasaaa]

congrats man good to hear.
my OG tangiers will have to sit in its tubs till i can move into college...the AC in this house is off/on all friggin day and my shisha isnt getting acclimated right Edited June 21, 2009 by Moefasaaa

[ahhhdam]

So Joe, what is YOUR technique on how to pack a tangiers bowl? And what did you do differently if anything this time around? Just to share how others do it

[newjacksm]

What coals are you using arcane?

[FamiliarJoe]

So Joe, what is YOUR technique on how to pack a tangiers bowl? And what did you do differently if anything this time around? Just to share how others do it

once I figure it out ill let you know. I just got home from work and im going to attempt to have another good session.

[Arcane]

Joe: what pieces of techniques did you end up using?

mattarios2: its actually about 50g (i use one 50g box of nakhla when i pack). it just looks like more because when i sectioned it off, i kinda piled up the excess shisha..

newjacksm: i use Canarys!!! they. rock. hard.

[FamiliarJoe]

Joe: what pieces of techniques did you end up using?

mattarios2: its actually about 50g (i use one 50g box of nakhla when i pack). it just looks like more because when i sectioned it off, i kinda piled up the excess shisha..

newjacksm: i use Canarys!!! they. rock. hard.

Well Eric told me 99% it's an underpacking issue. Even though this whole time ive put a hell of a lot of shisha over the rim, I still put more this time.

I also used golden QL's instead of my coco's. I am going to attempt to use the coco's tonight with just the same packing as last time.


Also, when I was packing the shisha I was comparing the amount used to the pics you put up. I was also sliding the shisha together to compact it rather than mash it down into the bowl.

[Arcane]

The point of this thread was to help me figure out what I was doing wrong, I think I got it down. If I pack another good bowl tomorrow then ill know for sure if this is how I need to pack my Tangiers from now on.

Don't look to other things that are wrong, foil, coal, whatever. What's wrong is right in front of you...we just don't see it yet.

just wanted to point this out...if Tangiers acclimates, but you don't get a good session. it's probably not the tobacco's fault, its most likely something you need to change about your technique.

[FamiliarJoe]

The point of this thread was to help me figure out what I was doing wrong, I think I got it down. If I pack another good bowl tomorrow then ill know for sure if this is how I need to pack my Tangiers from now on.

Don't look to other things that are wrong, foil, coal, whatever. What's wrong is right in front of you...we just don't see it yet.

just wanted to point this out...if Tangiers acclimates, but you don't get a good session. it's probably not the tobacco's fault, its most likely something you need to change about your technique.

I never said it was the tobacco's fault. I took responsibility for it haha!



EDIT: 300 post yeah boi Edited June 22, 2009 by FamiliarJoe

[Arcane]

Joe: what pieces of techniques did you end up using?

mattarios2: its actually about 50g (i use one 50g box of nakhla when i pack). it just looks like more because when i sectioned it off, i kinda piled up the excess shisha..

newjacksm: i use Canarys!!! they. rock. hard.

Well Eric told me 99% it's an underpacking issue. Even though this whole time ive put a hell of a lot of shisha over the rim, I still put more this time.

I also used golden QL's instead of my coco's. I am going to attempt to use the coco's tonight with just the same packing as last time.


Also, when I was packing the shisha I was comparing the amount used to the pics you put up. I was also sliding the shisha together to compact it rather than mash it down into the bowl.

ah great. but, i got a question. why would you slide it around the bowl to "compact" it...when ColibriDon posted a "what I learned from Eric" Tangiers packing video...where he elaborates on compressing the shisha with his palm? not trying to stir up anything. just curious is all...

on a note, that actually is a bit more tobacco than i normally use...not much more. if i continued to pack like that...i may only get 3-4 bowls. i'd actually suggest, on future bowls...to use a little less and less tobacco. maybe taking a small marble sized pinch of tobacco out, each time...till you get a not-so good bowl. then you'll know the least amount of tobacco you can use....kinda.

haha...

[Arcane]

The point of this thread was to help me figure out what I was doing wrong, I think I got it down. If I pack another good bowl tomorrow then ill know for sure if this is how I need to pack my Tangiers from now on.

Don't look to other things that are wrong, foil, coal, whatever. What's wrong is right in front of you...we just don't see it yet.

just wanted to point this out...if Tangiers acclimates, but you don't get a good session. it's probably not the tobacco's fault, its most likely something you need to change about your technique.

I never said it was the tobacco's fault. I took responsibility for it haha!



EDIT: 300 post yeah boi

oh no...sorry, i wasn't calling you out. that was more to people that say, "Tangiers sucks!! I can't get it to smoke right even though its acclimated!!" honestly, i don't think people take it seriously when Eric says you may need to change your techniques with Tangiers...they assume, well...i'll add a little more shisha or poke bigger holes. but depending how you pack other brands, you may not need to "change some things", instead you may need a complete overhaul... Edited June 22, 2009 by arcane

[FamiliarJoe]

Joe: what pieces of techniques did you end up using?

mattarios2: its actually about 50g (i use one 50g box of nakhla when i pack). it just looks like more because when i sectioned it off, i kinda piled up the excess shisha..

newjacksm: i use Canarys!!! they. rock. hard.

Well Eric told me 99% it's an underpacking issue. Even though this whole time ive put a hell of a lot of shisha over the rim, I still put more this time.

I also used golden QL's instead of my coco's. I am going to attempt to use the coco's tonight with just the same packing as last time.


Also, when I was packing the shisha I was comparing the amount used to the pics you put up. I was also sliding the shisha together to compact it rather than mash it down into the bowl.

ah great. but, i got a question. why would you slide it around the bowl to "compact" it...when ColibriDon posted a "what I learned from Eric" Tangiers packing video...where he elaborates on compressing the shisha with his palm? not trying to stir up anything. just curious is all...

on a note, that actually is a bit more tobacco than i normally use...not much more. if i continued to pack like that...i may only get 3-4 bowls. i'd actually suggest, on future bowls...to use a little less and less tobacco. maybe taking a small marble sized pinch of tobacco out, each time...till you get a not-so good bowl. then you'll know the least amount of tobacco you can use....kinda.

haha...

Well I slid the Tangiers to compact it in the bowl before foil. Then I also compacted it with my palm with foil to make sure it felt like a sponge pushing back up from the bowl. I have watched everyone who made a video on these forums "tangiers packing video" and ive attempted to learn a little bit from each one. That's why Ive been so pissed it's never worked out for me.

Yeah I actually took a bit out myself. when I compacted it with foil it shot juice out from the phunnel from the shisha xD I realized that was a good sign I had TO MUCH shisha

[Arcane]

i'm really glad its working for you now...i hoep you enjoy Tangiers as much as I do....




dont' neglect Nakhla though!!!

[FamiliarJoe]

i'm really glad its working for you now...i hoep you enjoy Tangiers as much as I do....




dont' neglect Nakhla though!!!

That's funny you say that.

Here is my order from John that I am awaiting it's arrival..



Qty Item # Description Price Total
Each Price
---------------------------------------------------------------------
1 002 Al Fakher 250g 12.49 14.49
Flavor: Golden Apple Bahrani +2.00

1 012 Nakhla 250g 9.49 11.48
Nakhla Flavors: Apple Bahrainy (JAR) +1.99

1 002 Al Fakher 250g 12.49 12.49
Flavor: Mint

1 012 Nakhla 250g 9.49 9.49
Nakhla Flavors: Sweet Melon







It will be my first time trying nakhla..or 2nd time. Either way it's all new nakhla flavors for me !!

=] Edited June 22, 2009 by FamiliarJoe

[Arcane]

Nooo, I use about the same amount he does, if not fewer. That's just a shit ton of coal for me. I'd damage my lungs forever.

not sure if you seen the post Bulldog, but just wondering if you use the same amount of holes? also, do you use Canarys with your Tangiers or the Exoticas?