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QUOTE (Capt. Morgan @ Jun 25 2009, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am the only one who doesn't give a shit? Never liked his music and always thought he was a creepy little fucker regardless of whether he did anything to kids. Good Riddance.


Thank God....... Don't get me wrong, I like his music just fine and he was one hell of a performer on stage, but the way the public handles the death of a celebrity just totally amazes me. If you lose a relative, friend, etc., then yeah, you're going to have some grief..... But someone you never got within a 100 feet of (and that was if you were in the pit at a concert) and know only through their work at the distance of a CD or a video screen? People are crying downtown on his star for heaven's sake.... I can't figure out why they people are so caught up into it.

'Rani


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#@!&*@! Michael Jackson, i don't often mourn Pedophiles. Now Farrah was a class act and the perfect example of the unattainable for many a young man and boy in the 70's. Her, I'll miss.
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QUOTE (FSUReligionMan @ Jun 25 2009, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ed McMahon first, then Farrah Faucet, then MJ...sad.gif


Back in '77 there was Elvis, 3 members of Lynrd Skyrd, Marc Bolan of T Rex, Big Crosby, and Charlie Chaplin all around the same time.
It was sad to hear about MJ. I was a big fan when the Jackson Five came out but was into rock and blues during his peak solo career.
While I did not care much for the later music/style I always appreciated the talent and he was such a natural that his success there speaks for itself.
I'm so old I saw a lot of these clips when they first came out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt9TUy0_GiM Seeing a kid that young with so much passion and charisma like he owned the stage was really neat.
I'm two years younger than him but even when I was older and hair to my ass if that song came on somewhere I loved it, still do. Nearly 40 years later I know if I'm blessed with another 40 I still will.
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Is it too early for some Michael Jackson dead jokes? I really want to post one, but I am not sure it is a wise choice just yet...don't want to offend anyone that is actually mourning.


Edit: after I reread this post, I thought I should clarify, the last part was not meant to be a joke... Edited by delSol_si
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QUOTE (delSol_si @ Jun 27 2009, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it too early for some Michael Jackson dead jokes? I really want to post one, but I am not sure it is a wise choice just yet...don't want to offend anyone that is actually mourning.


Edit: after I reread this post, I thought I should clarify, the last part was not meant to be a joke...


Go for it.

As for myself, I found it entertaining how crazy the media has gone over this. Then I woke up this morning and was a little bit bummed, I was looking forward to his comeback. The story the media is painting is also heartwrenching. His childhood wasn't exactly ideal and I think it is a lot easier for us to judge celebrities for their actions as opposed to a "normal" non-celebrity human being. He was always in the spotlight and it is sad how what made it popular eventually became his downfall. It also doesn't help that my mom has her TV tuned to CNN and MSNBC all day while they run Michael Jackson specials, it is softening me damnit!
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Never gave two shakes about MJ. Feel free to call me a heartless bastard but I'm almost glad he's gone. Now his kids can grow up in a 'normal' household.
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Alright, so here are my favorite jokes I have heard so far:

when ferrah fawcett died she went to heaven and god said what would you like to wish for, and she said for all the children in the world to be safe....so he killed micheal jackson.

due to the fact that michael jackson is 99% plastic he will be melted down into legos so that children can play with him for a change.

Oh! They just announced that he actually died of food poisoning.

Apparently he had one too many nine year old wieners...

Why did Michael Jackson want to be melted down and made into a Little Tykes Playhouse? So that little kids would still come inside him.

In memory of MJ’s death, McDonald’s is coming out with the new “McJackson”. It’s 50 year old meat between 12 year old buns.

I'm sure most everyone has heard these, but just incase a few people haven't...
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QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Jun 26 2009, 03:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Capt. Morgan @ Jun 25 2009, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am the only one who doesn't give a shit? Never liked his music and always thought he was a creepy little fucker regardless of whether he did anything to kids. Good Riddance.


Thank God....... Don't get me wrong, I like his music just fine and he was one hell of a performer on stage, but the way the public handles the death of a celebrity just totally amazes me. If you lose a relative, friend, etc., then yeah, you're going to have some grief..... But someone you never got within a 100 feet of (and that was if you were in the pit at a concert) and know only through their work at the distance of a CD or a video screen? People are crying downtown on his star for heaven's sake.... I can't figure out why they people are so caught up into it.

'Rani


You don't have to personally know someone for them to have an impact on your life. Some people were really impacted by Michael Jacksons music. Many people watched him grow up with him since he was in the music game for so long. Those people are just sad to see their hero gone. You don't have to feel sad by it because he had no impact on your life and that's okay.
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QUOTE (likespaceships @ Jun 29 2009, 07:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't have to personally know someone for them to have an impact on your life. Some people were really impacted by Michael Jacksons music. Many people watched him grow up with him since he was in the music game for so long. Those people are just sad to see their hero gone. You don't have to feel sad by it because he had no impact on your life and that's okay.


Well put! good.gif To each his own. As I was once a music major I recognize his huge contribution to music and I appreciate that. As for his personal life, that is neither here nor there for me, as far as I am concerned it is separate from the music.
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I didnt really care about his death, a celebrity death that got to me was Owen Hart well because I loved wrestling and I was 11 years old and watching the PPV when he died, Brett Hart was my favorite wrestler at the time and Owen was next favorite wrestler smile.gif Everyone in the Hart Foundation. Edited by newjacksm
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QUOTE (coastlines @ Jun 29 2009, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (likespaceships @ Jun 29 2009, 07:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't have to personally know someone for them to have an impact on your life. Some people were really impacted by Michael Jacksons music. Many people watched him grow up with him since he was in the music game for so long. Those people are just sad to see their hero gone. You don't have to feel sad by it because he had no impact on your life and that's okay.


Well put! good.gif To each his own. As I was once a music major I recognize his huge contribution to music and I appreciate that. As for his personal life, that is neither here nor there for me, as far as I am concerned it is separate from the music.



I understand what you're saying..... But..... I've been around and in the same industry for most of my life. Grew up in it, married into it at one point. His body of work impacted your life. Not him. Because none of his fans know the person themselves. The guy you see on stage, the girl you see in the movies, the teenagers you see on television, are completely different created characters from the real person. Even for musicians, there's the stage personna, and the real person. There's no way you can equate the loss of a friend or family member to someone I guarantee you didn't know even a little bit. Performers perform their roles. That's what they do. Janet Jackson said at the BET awards "To you Michael Jackson was an icon. To us he was family." There's a complete and total differnece and for someone not to understand that puts you clearly into the groupie phenomena.

That doesn't mean I don't have some compassion for his family, his kids and that I don't recognize a musical genius is no more. But crying over his Hollywood star? Michael Jackson the person changed only the lives of the people who knew him well. The body of work from the performer left a legacy that isn't going anywhere. It's still on digital somewhere and I'm willing to bet money that you'll see the market flooded with "previously unreleased" material before the year is out.

'Rani
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QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Jun 30 2009, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (coastlines @ Jun 29 2009, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (likespaceships @ Jun 29 2009, 07:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't have to personally know someone for them to have an impact on your life. Some people were really impacted by Michael Jacksons music. Many people watched him grow up with him since he was in the music game for so long. Those people are just sad to see their hero gone. You don't have to feel sad by it because he had no impact on your life and that's okay.


Well put! good.gif To each his own. As I was once a music major I recognize his huge contribution to music and I appreciate that. As for his personal life, that is neither here nor there for me, as far as I am concerned it is separate from the music.



I understand what you're saying..... But..... I've been around and in the same industry for most of my life. Grew up in it, married into it at one point. His body of work impacted your life. Not him. Because none of his fans know the person themselves. The guy you see on stage, the girl you see in the movies, the teenagers you see on television, are completely different created characters from the real person. Even for musicians, there's the stage personna, and the real person. There's no way you can equate the loss of a friend or family member to someone I guarantee you didn't know even a little bit. Performers perform their roles. That's what they do. Janet Jackson said at the BET awards "To you Michael Jackson was an icon. To us he was family." There's a complete and total differnece and for someone not to understand that puts you clearly into the groupie phenomena.

That doesn't mean I don't have some compassion for his family, his kids and that I don't recognize a musical genius is no more. But crying over his Hollywood star? Michael Jackson the person changed only the lives of the people who knew him well. The body of work from the performer left a legacy that isn't going anywhere. It's still on digital somewhere and I'm willing to bet money that you'll see the market flooded with "previously unreleased" material before the year is out.

'Rani

I like to think that I am more than capable of separating reality from imagination. I don't see why I must distinguish his music impacting my life as opposed to him impacting my life. Didn't he co-produce and co-write a good majority of his songs? To me that is musical genius. That is almost like saying we can't attribute Mozart's music to Mozart because he died poor and was buried in a pauper's grave.

Also, I never said I was crying over it. I think it is sad, just as I think it is sad whenever anyone dies under such circumstances. What I don't understand is the people that get offended when there is focus on a celebrity's death. They make backhanded comments such as "we don't mourn every death of every person that died in a single day why do it for celebrities?" The simple truth is that our culture breeds this type of behavior. Day in and day out celebrities are in the spotlight, whatever persona they may project. That slowly becomes their identity. While I do understand where others are coming from I think that it can also be a bit unrealistic to separate the man from the icon, and as they continue to try to do that they are bashing the man and tributing the icon. It all makes for very murky water. If this makes no sense I apologize I was just writing to write. I can't see and am half asleep. Edited by coastlines
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I also forgot to add that I don't think spaceships is suggesting that these people who are devastated over his death believe he is their best friends or that they knew each other for years. I think he is merely suggesting that some people were more influence by MJ than others, and when you grow up knowing nothing but his music, then there is a natural affinity there. It is no completely unfair to say that some people, though they may or may not know him personally, feel as though he not only helped them live their life but helped them brave the rough patches through his music.

Maybe we come from two different understanding of what the music business is like. I tend to have rose colored glasses and I believe that anyone entering the entertainment industry should know what they are up against. Especially if you plan to make a dent in history. No, no one would know MJ like his close friends and family, but it is not to say that his stage persona didn't have at least a little bit of an effect on his daily life, and vice versa. I'm really blabbing now so I will just stop. HA
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Let us all not forget the literal MILLIONS of people he helped in Russia, South America, and Africa. He was a major humanitarian and even if his music was never heard again, his mark on the world in this way is more than enough to give him the credit he deserves for impacting people's lives. Oh. Almost forgot the giant slew of people in the United States who are basically still alive because of his charities. Edited by FSUReligionMan
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http://www.freep.com/article/20090628/COL0...w+we+view+Jacko

R.I.P Michael Jackson. I always listened to his awesome music. I felt a comeback one day to, and with his rumored 100 recorded unreleased songs, maybe it can still happen?

Oh, and R.I.P Billy mays..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOmvdeNa67E Edited by SloppyJoe
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Well, the DEA is now offically involved, so I believe Liza Minelli may have been accurate when she said "all hell is going to break loose".

'Rani
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