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Why Doesn't Nakhla Make Blueberry?


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never really thought of blueberry as a traditional flavor...normally see it with more "modern" shishas...

but, i dunno...could be that it's hard to get it right...without it being candy-ish...
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QUOTE (shisha fan @ Jun 30 2009, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (arcane @ Jul 1 2009, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
could be that it's hard to get it right...without it being candy-ish...


true.

although i must say that i love fantasia blueberry.
all the other blueberry flavors from other brands were just too artificial tasting to enjoy.


i agree with shisha fan, fantasia blueberry is awesome.

i couldn't get tang blueberry to acclimate unfortunately.

When i first opened the tub of tang it smelt amazing, then went south from there.

if nak made a blueberry i'd be in heaven.
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Too many blueberry flavors tend to taste... like chemicals so to speak. They could try for it, but i really doubt that they will, or even pay attention to this place tongue.gif
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QUOTE (shisha fan @ Jun 30 2009, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (arcane @ Jul 1 2009, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
could be that it's hard to get it right...without it being candy-ish...


true.

although i must say that i love fantasia blueberry.
all the other blueberry flavors from other brands were just too artificial tasting to enjoy.



whaaaaat? fantasia blueberry tastes like fruity pebbles.
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fantasia blueberry is what made me never buy fantasia again. i got it before they vamped up their packaging and everybody thought that fantasia was the bees' knees. the 50g box i got was like a yellow/beige colored tobacco, with this very bright, fluorescent-like blue goop that just dripped off of the tobacco. the cut was horrible. there were a lot of stems, and it looked like a blind man had hacked at it with a machete. some of the pieces were extremely fine, and others were huge. it smoked horribly and the cut was disgustingly inconsistent. after that one head i tossed that shit out. even if they have stepped up their game, it isn't worth what everyone insists on charging. especially when nakhla makes a hell of a good tobacco for significantly less money - a price which i like to call "sane and extremely reasonable"
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I would give it a try but my blueberry tastes are kinda picky. I like Fumari and Romman Blueberry, but I hate Layalina, Tangiers and Fantasia Blueberry.
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depends on the blueberry taste.

I personally like the candy blueberry, but most people think blueberry and think the actual berry, which I'm not a huge fan of.

Seems like it would be a pretty complex flavor.
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Yeah, never thought about it but Nakhla or Al Fakher don't make blueberry. Must be a more modern trend rather than traditional. Also Fantasia Blueberry is probably the best blueberry flavor I have ever tried!
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If you like blueberry, I recommend going to your local homebrew shop (or grocery store if they carry it) and buying some blueberry extract and putting it in your base water.

I bought a big bottle of it for $10 and I get great blueberry flavor from ANY tobacco that goes in the bowl.
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QUOTE (jezter6 @ Jul 1 2009, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you like blueberry, I recommend going to your local homebrew shop (or grocery store if they carry it) and buying some blueberry extract and putting it in your base water.

I bought a big bottle of it for $10 and I get great blueberry flavor from ANY tobacco that goes in the bowl.


That's a really interesting idea. I wonder if the ingredients might even be GRAS (generally recognized as safe, thanks Eric) and suitable for addition to the shisha directly.

I might give these guys a shot:

http://www.naturesflavors.com/product_info...roducts_id=3760 Edited by freeOS
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QUOTE (freeOS @ Jul 1 2009, 09:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jezter6 @ Jul 1 2009, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you like blueberry, I recommend going to your local homebrew shop (or grocery store if they carry it) and buying some blueberry extract and putting it in your base water.

I bought a big bottle of it for $10 and I get great blueberry flavor from ANY tobacco that goes in the bowl.


That's a really interesting idea. I wonder if the ingredients might even be GRAS (generally recognized as safe, thanks Eric) and suitable for addition to the shisha directly.

I might give these guys a shot:

http://www.naturesflavors.com/product_info...roducts_id=3760


Seems like a good idea and worth a try. You could also just use some candy oil (flavorings) and probably get the same result...
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QUOTE (Jeff_T @ Jul 1 2009, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems like a good idea and worth a try. You could also just use some candy oil (flavorings) and probably get the same result...


I get skeezed out about consumable (food or otherwise) products that come out of a chemical factory in New Jersey...

The upside to the place I linked above is that it's all pure organics, and that they are even willing to explain their extraction process.
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QUOTE (jezter6 @ Jul 1 2009, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you like blueberry, I recommend going to your local homebrew shop (or grocery store if they carry it) and buying some blueberry extract and putting it in your base water.

I bought a big bottle of it for $10 and I get great blueberry flavor from ANY tobacco that goes in the bowl.

I used to use blueberry tasty puff and it was completely amazing, but then it started giving me a headache so I quit. I would love an alternative flavoring that doesn't give me headaches.
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QUOTE (jezter6 @ Jul 1 2009, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it's sold in grocery stores for baking or homebrew stores for adding to beer - it's probably food safe.


You wouldn't believe what passes for "food safe" these days. Read about MSG if you never want to have mainstream Chinese food or potato chips again...
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QUOTE (jezter6 @ Jul 1 2009, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A bag of chips will not kill you.

50,000 bags of MSG laden chips will.

MSG is food safe.


MSG is a documented excitotoxin with links to cardiac arrythmia, sudden cardiac arrest, fibromyalgia, and other ailments.

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Excitotoxicity is the pathological process by which nerve cells are damaged and killed by glutamate and similar substances. This occurs when receptors for the excitatory neurotransmitter glutamate such as the NMDA receptor and AMPA receptor are overactivated. Excitotoxins like NMDA and kainic acid which bind to these receptors, as well as pathologically high levels of glutamate, can cause excitotoxicity by allowing high levels of calcium ions[1] (Ca2+) to enter the cell. Ca2+ influx into cells activates a number of enzymes, including phospholipases, endonucleases, and proteases such as calpain. These enzymes go on to damage cell structures such as components of the cytoskeleton, membrane, and DNA.

Excitotoxicity may be involved in spinal cord injury, stroke, traumatic brain injury and neurodegenerative diseases of the central nervous system (CNS) such as Multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer's disease, Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), Parkinson's disease, Alcoholism or alcohol withdrawal and Huntington's disease.[2][3] Other common conditions that cause excessive glutamate concentrations around neurons are hypoglycemia[4] and status epilepticus.[5]





If you're actually interested in learning more about this, here are some links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excitotoxicity
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11408989
http://www.wnho.net/sudden_cardiac_death.htm
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