Al Fakher Smokers Who Use Phunnels

[SmokinMoose]

Ok so I finally got my 2 minis.

I have never been able to get the same dense smoke I get from a regular Egyptian bowl using a phunnel the smoke quantity is the same but the dense heavy smoke is what I am lacking.

I overpack my egyptian coals and use 2 coco's and I get smooth dense smoke.

I feel with the phunnel I get a higher smoke air ratio if that makes any sense.

I want to know your methods for packing AF in a phunnel its the only tobacco I use.

Any help is appreciated.

If this doesn't work I am gonna have to give up on the phunnels.

[Genie]

I overpack my egyptian coals and use 2 coco's and I get smooth dense smoke.

I feel with the phunnel I get a higher smoke air ratio if that makes any sense.

Okay, sorry if this is a stupid question, but are you poking holes over the Phunnel hole, cuz if you are, maybe you're just drawing in too much air. Or maybe you are poking holes that are too close to the Phunnel's hole? Just thinking out loud here. Does it get any better if you don't pack the Phunnel the way you do your Egyptian bowls?

[delSol_si]

I think you should give up and sell me the mini, lol, jk. I use a small right now until I can get a mini. When I smoke AF out of it, I always just shove it in there to the rim, with a tea light mod over the phunnel part, then just poke as many holes as I can around the mod, then put like 3 CH QL coals on there, works for me pretty well. Gotta make sure the coals get ashed though or else you won't get enough heat, im sure you know that though.

Thats my method.

[Zinite]

Al Fakher is very forgiving in a phunnel. You can pack it tight or loose, it doesn't seem to matter. Just make sure that either way, it goes up to the rim of the phunnel.

As far as hole pattern, anything resembling this works:


I use 2 cocos on my small.

[Genie]

with a tea light mod over the phunnel part,

I love the tea light mod. I forgot to use it last night and I really regretted it.

[speel]

an extra coal could be your friend I usually use a extra coal no matter what I smoke to get the bowl going then I take it off and throw it back on when the smoke is getting less dense also try out a wind cover.

[joytron]

cut the cocos in half, 1.5 is perfect on the mini.

[the_cool]

I am having the EXACT same issue, which only last night I fully realised that the phunnel gives me less dense smoke. I smoked at a friends, both with egyptians bowls and disc QL's and the smoke was really dense, but my phunnel doesn't perform. The quantity is the same just not as dense.

SmokinMoose, if you find out how to get the same density, please let me know! I will let you know too if I find anything.

I'm thinking the size of the holes may be key, I want to try small pin sized holes rather than larger ones.

EDIT: oh also im thinking of using smaller pieces of coal but more of them. I usually use 2 halves of the large cocochas (each half is bigger than one coconara I think). Three makes it far too strong. I will try with 3 or 4 quarters and see if that helps. Edited July 10, 2009 by the_cool

[kudomonster]

I think you should give up and sell me the mini, lol, jk. I use a small right now until I can get a mini. When I smoke AF out of it, I always just shove it in there to the rim, with a tea light mod over the phunnel part, then just poke as many holes as I can around the mod, then put like 3 CH QL coals on there, works for me pretty well. Gotta make sure the coals get ashed though or else you won't get enough heat, im sure you know that though.

Thats my method.

Same. Tea light mod too.
OP, I use AF in a med phunnle with coconaras. I place enough shisha so the bowl is full when the shisha is slightly compressed (Not so much that it affects the draw) then I wrap the foil around, tight as possible, and poke holes over the shisha. When the bowl is easy to draw air from, you're good to go. I use three coconaras.

Try a tea candle mod, maybe that's why mine works so well..

[RingsMaster]

some AF i pack tight, like vanilla, and watermelon i sprinkle in to the bowl until its slightly over the rim and use the foil to compress it a little, on my med phunnel i put 3 coconaro's and for my hole pattern i do 3 rings with a hole dead center i find that on the rings more smaller holes give me much denser smoke

[bungiman]

You are getting great responses, one thing I do that I haven't seen is that I poke my holes all the way down. Works well for me.

[ilikemyusername]

I do this all the time, its easy.
take your phunnel, pack your AF OVER the rim, not too tight, not too loose, just right.(pick it up and dump it in) Then, put foil over it, don't pack it down much, you don't want your foil sucking over the center hole.
use the hole pattern zinite suggested it's perfect, no holes over the center, i find that i just end up sucking a bunch of air. Another thing you can do to improve air flow as apposed to poking holes over the center hole is to take a stem from the AF(they usually put some decent ones in there) and put that over your phunnel hole, ontop of the shisha and under the foil. There are alot of people that pack thier AF down real tight in a phunnel, but this is the method that works for me. It will work for you too.

[RingsMaster]

i like my username hit it pretty good, i found that if i dont put at least a small hole in the middle my foil gets sucked down, and when i say small hole i mean i apply enough pressure to whatever im poking with to get a slight puncture, maybe ill post a video to help tonight of how i do it, hmmmm come to think of it i just got a crapload of tang and layalina so maybe tomorrow night

[SmokinMoose]

I do this all the time, its easy.
take your phunnel, pack your AF OVER the rim, not too tight, not too loose, just right.(pick it up and dump it in) Then, put foil over it, don't pack it down much, you don't want your foil sucking over the center hole.
use the hole pattern zinite suggested it's perfect, no holes over the center, i find that i just end up sucking a bunch of air. Another thing you can do to improve air flow as apposed to poking holes over the center hole is to take a stem from the AF(they usually put some decent ones in there) and put that over your phunnel hole, ontop of the shisha and under the foil. There are alot of people that pack thier AF down real tight in a phunnel, but this is the method that works for me. It will work for you too.

I will give this a go tomorrow.

At the end of the session do you have any unburnt tobacco left over?

[RingsMaster]

I do this all the time, its easy.
take your phunnel, pack your AF OVER the rim, not too tight, not too loose, just right.(pick it up and dump it in) Then, put foil over it, don't pack it down much, you don't want your foil sucking over the center hole.
use the hole pattern zinite suggested it's perfect, no holes over the center, i find that i just end up sucking a bunch of air. Another thing you can do to improve air flow as apposed to poking holes over the center hole is to take a stem from the AF(they usually put some decent ones in there) and put that over your phunnel hole, ontop of the shisha and under the foil. There are alot of people that pack thier AF down real tight in a phunnel, but this is the method that works for me. It will work for you too.

I will give this a go tomorrow.

At the end of the session do you have any unburnt tobacco left over?

every now and then i do, but mostly due to me quitting early

[indian_villager]

This is what I do. http://www.hookah-shisha.com/hookahlove/72...-the-cheap.html
is a quick way to make a scalli mod. Pack your af with the mod a wee bit under the rim. Then poke holes just where you plan on placing the coals. (if using cocos two squares of holes the size of the cocos directly opposite eachother) this is the method I use and it gives me thunder clouds.

[ilikemyusername]

I do this all the time, its easy.
I will give this a go tomorrow.

At the end of the session do you have any unburnt tobacco left over?

usually, but it depends on how long i feel like smoking.

[Sonthert]

I would say, bias the tobacco towards the phunnel...it might help to keep the foil off the phunnel. If you were smoking Tangiers, I'd say to poke hole(s) over the phunnel, but with Al Fakher, I can't offer an informed opinion, so go with those in the know.

[the_cool]

Ok just a quick update, Im smoking in the small phunnel with a tea light mod, and made smaller pin sized holes around where the tobacco is and im getting great smoke and flavour (although AF's quality isn't what it used to be so in terms of flavour iv put that into consideration!)

[redjako]

I notice just sprinking AF into a phunnel (medium for me) is better then packing it...either way, you're only getting 1.5-2 rounds of coals with AF. That top layer more then likely WILL be burnt on top, so if you super / tangiers pack it, you just have to reload the bowl anyway.

[goon]

Thing about packing is that its too expensive to do that, but if thats what makes the phunnel useable then will have to try this.

my phunnel broke though! damn

[Genie]

Thing about packing is that its too expensive to do that, but if thats what makes the phunnel useable then will have to try this.

my phunnel broke though! damn

My condolences. Last night I broke the stock bowl that came with my Bambino. It sucked, it's a handy little bowl for a quick solo smoke, but I was so glad that it wasn't my Phunnel.