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QUOTE (clickhea @ Jul 17 2009, 07:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you dont poke all the way through till the bottom?


i used to...but, my laziness kinda takes over from time to time...

also, some guy fairly knowledgeable in Tangiers said it wasn't really necessary to poke holes all the way down in a phunnel...
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my shitty puter is lagginf like crazy w/ the vid, but gee you sure are purdy.




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Go all the way down with the fork should be the first lesson. 2nd that is way to little in the bowl. 3rd it should not have to warm up. By the 4th hit I get huge clouds always. I'm going to post a real video soon enough.
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QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Jul 17 2009, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go all the way down with the fork should be the first lesson. 2nd that is way to little in the bowl. 3rd it should not have to warm up. By the 4th hit I get huge clouds always. I'm going to post a real video soon enough.



1) have you even talked to Eric? he's the one that says you don't need to poke all the way down.
2nd) the bowl smokes fine with that amount of tobacco. it really isn't the amount that is the main issue, it's the density in which all the tobacco is packed
3) if you're only getting clouds on the 4th, guess what? it's warming up...FAIL
4) whoopty doo for you!

what i just did works...so, why are you questioning it? also, since you just said "go all the way down with the fork" already tells me you're not totally in the know with tangiers...sorry. maybe next time, eh?
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QUOTE (Codename067 @ Jul 17 2009, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just pack a little more, thats all.


you did hear me say that it's not harsh, the flavor was good...so, i don't know why i'd need to pack a little more. i worry about density more than amount. even evilded777 has figured this out to an extent...you can pack HALF the bowl, with the correct density and get it to smoke good. i even discussed this with Eric (however, briefly) and he says it makes sense somewhat.

now, if you can't pack your bowls like that and make it smoke well...then i don't know what to tell you. i can pack Tangiers, Nakhla, and AF several different ways and get them to smoke well...i just have to play with the heat a little... Edited by Arcane
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QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Jul 16 2009, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go all the way down with the fork should be the first lesson. 2nd that is way to little in the bowl. 3rd it should not have to warm up. By the 4th hit I get huge clouds always. I'm going to post a real video soon enough.



what's a REAL video?
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QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Jul 16 2009, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go all the way down with the fork should be the first lesson. 2nd that is way to little in the bowl. 3rd it should not have to warm up. By the 4th hit I get huge clouds always. I'm going to post a real video soon enough.


1. every bodies packing method is different. some things work for some ppl while they fail miserably for others. 2nd you dont have to over pack a phunnel i quite often load half bowls or even 1/4th bowls in mine and i can get great clouds. 3rd yes it has to warm up its the heat that makes the smoke. by the 4th hit? damn what a waste of hit 1 2 and 3 i get big clouds on the first hit. there is nothing wrong with Arcanes packing tech it works for him and it works fo manny manny others on this forum.

go make your video and lets see how you do it.


great vid by the way Arcane.
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QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Jul 16 2009, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go all the way down with the fork should be the first lesson. 2nd that is way to little in the bowl. 3rd it should not have to warm up. By the 4th hit I get huge clouds always. I'm going to post a real video soon enough.


I don't know what you consider a real video bro, but step back if you think your better than anyone else here. Arcane know's his Tangiers. If he can get it to smoke good his way then he must be doing something right.

Thanks again arcane, sadly I ran out of Tangiers to try this method out haha.. I have scraps of horchata and orange soda left..maybe I will mix them together :X
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QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Jul 16 2009, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go all the way down with the fork should be the first lesson. 2nd that is way to little in the bowl. 3rd it should not have to warm up. By the 4th hit I get huge clouds always. I'm going to post a real video soon enough.


I don't know what you consider a real video bro, but step back if you think your better than anyone else here. Arcane know's his Tangiers. If he can get it to smoke good his way then he must be doing something right.

Thanks again arcane, sadly I ran out of Tangiers to try this method out haha.. I have scraps of horchata and orange soda left..maybe I will mix them together :X


let me know if you want something...i'll include some OG along with the Lucid Ubermint I'm sending you. I don't remember what OG flavors I have left though. I'll hit you up in chat after I get off of work.
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QUOTE (Arcane @ Jul 16 2009, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Codename067 @ Jul 17 2009, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just pack a little more, thats all.


you did hear me say that it's not harsh, the flavor was good...so, i don't know why i'd need to pack a little more. i worry about density more than amount. even evilded777 has figured this out to an extent...you can pack HALF the bowl, with the correct density and get it to smoke good. i even discussed this with Eric (however, briefly) and he says it makes sense somewhat.

now, if you can't pack your bowls like that and make it smoke well...then i don't know what to tell you. i can pack Tangiers, Nakhla, and AF several different ways and get them to smoke well...i just have to play with the heat a little...



You do whatever you like. I just wrote down my opinion. I pack bowls different ways according to the type tobacco.
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Great Packing Video Arcane! You have personally answered a couple of my questions in chat and I thank you for that! Also the concept of density vs. volume of shisha had never struck me before! I have ALWAYS loaded my Tangiers to overflowing but I am for sure going to try out your packing method next time I smoke! Thanks again for your on going support of newer smokers here on Hookahfoum and keep up the good work!

Also just a side question dont mean to thread jack but is this also how you pack your Nak or do you use a different method?
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QUOTE (Chaz1337 @ Jul 17 2009, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Great Packing Video Arcane! You have personally answered a couple of my questions in chat and I thank you for that! Also the concept of density vs. volume of shisha had never struck me before! I have ALWAYS loaded my Tangiers to overflowing but I am for sure going to try out your packing method next time I smoke! Thanks again for your on going support of newer smokers here on Hookahfoum and keep up the good work!

Also just a side question dont mean to thread jack but is this also how you pack your Nak or do you use a different method?


i don't pack Nakhla as tight. normally, i pack nakhla like mattarios2's tutorial...however, i just use a fork instead of my fingers. nakhla takes a lot less thinking imo, because it's really hard to mess it up. it smokes great soooo many ways.

or do it like the video minus the whole compressing with your palm part.
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QUOTE (Arcane @ Jul 17 2009, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Chaz1337 @ Jul 17 2009, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Great Packing Video Arcane! You have personally answered a couple of my questions in chat and I thank you for that! Also the concept of density vs. volume of shisha had never struck me before! I have ALWAYS loaded my Tangiers to overflowing but I am for sure going to try out your packing method next time I smoke! Thanks again for your on going support of newer smokers here on Hookahfoum and keep up the good work!

Also just a side question dont mean to thread jack but is this also how you pack your Nak or do you use a different method?


i don't pack Nakhla as tight. normally, i pack nakhla like mattarios2's tutorial...however, i just use a fork instead of my fingers. nakhla takes a lot less thinking imo, because it's really hard to mess it up. it smokes great soooo many ways.

or do it like the video minus the whole compressing with your palm part.


Sounds good thanks again Arcane! dance.gif
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Oh I must know nothing I'm only smoking with him right now....


QUOTE (Arcane @ Jul 16 2009, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Jul 17 2009, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go all the way down with the fork should be the first lesson. 2nd that is way to little in the bowl. 3rd it should not have to warm up. By the 4th hit I get huge clouds always. I'm going to post a real video soon enough.



1) have you even talked to Eric? he's the one that says you don't need to poke all the way down.
2nd) the bowl smokes fine with that amount of tobacco. it really isn't the amount that is the main issue, it's the density in which all the tobacco is packed
3) if you're only getting clouds on the 4th, guess what? it's warming up...FAIL
4) whoopty doo for you!

what i just did works...so, why are you questioning it? also, since you just said "go all the way down with the fork" already tells me you're not totally in the know with tangiers...sorry. maybe next time, eh?

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QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Jul 17 2009, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh I must know nothing I'm only smoking with him right now....


QUOTE (Arcane @ Jul 16 2009, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Jul 17 2009, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go all the way down with the fork should be the first lesson. 2nd that is way to little in the bowl. 3rd it should not have to warm up. By the 4th hit I get huge clouds always. I'm going to post a real video soon enough.



1) have you even talked to Eric? he's the one that says you don't need to poke all the way down.
2nd) the bowl smokes fine with that amount of tobacco. it really isn't the amount that is the main issue, it's the density in which all the tobacco is packed
3) if you're only getting clouds on the 4th, guess what? it's warming up...FAIL
4) whoopty doo for you!

what i just did works...so, why are you questioning it? also, since you just said "go all the way down with the fork" already tells me you're not totally in the know with tangiers...sorry. maybe next time, eh?




cool...then ask him why he doesn't think its necessary to poke holes all the way down in a phunnel? Edited by Arcane
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QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Jul 17 2009, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh I must know nothing I'm only smoking with him right now....


QUOTE (Arcane @ Jul 16 2009, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Jul 17 2009, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Go all the way down with the fork should be the first lesson. 2nd that is way to little in the bowl. 3rd it should not have to warm up. By the 4th hit I get huge clouds always. I'm going to post a real video soon enough.



1) have you even talked to Eric? he's the one that says you don't need to poke all the way down.
2nd) the bowl smokes fine with that amount of tobacco. it really isn't the amount that is the main issue, it's the density in which all the tobacco is packed
3) if you're only getting clouds on the 4th, guess what? it's warming up...FAIL
4) whoopty doo for you!

what i just did works...so, why are you questioning it? also, since you just said "go all the way down with the fork" already tells me you're not totally in the know with tangiers...sorry. maybe next time, eh?



That's great Boulder, it really is. But this works for Arcane so there's no need to critique HIM. Only people who can't get a bowl of Tangiers ripping. He has helped me with his advice and so on just as much as Eric has himself. Different methods, different people.


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Great vid Jay. Everything you said was correct and I can back you up on what both Eric and Evilded777 have to say about density. If people want to pack more that's fine...they will.

If you pack a large phunnel full and don't smoke all it's worth...I think you can safely say it's a waste. Arcane's half way pack technique is probably a good shisha saver. Eric says a large phunnel full of Tangiers will last a good 12 hours or more? You may not smoke all that.

Just a thought..I'm definitely not a pro with this stuff...just saying.

Thanks again Jay! (oh and next time don't put crappy lol)
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i have a Sony Vaio Custom Made camera....i call it crappy because the picture and sound compared to rin's laptop (she has the same model) is way worse....but, glad you guys like the vid.
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