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Well starting Friday on my way to my car headed home when my wife called and my little girl had a temp of 102. After a quick check by the doctor they admitted her to the hospital. Lumbar Puncture (Oh the screams were bad), Blood Test and Urinalysis all come back and she has a UTI. Sucks, but at least we knew. But we had to stay through Monday for Observation and 2 more tests a Kidney Sonogram and VCUG (oh the screams again). Then we got to go home monday afternoon to a house with no power till midnight and no cable, internet or phone till 11 this morning...when it rains it pours. And the clouds aren't gone yet.

VCUG results just got called into us from our doctor and she has backflow on both her kidneys. We are getting an appointment made for a Pediatric Urologist at Cooks Children Hospital in Fort Worth (2 hour drive). There was a possibility she could grow out of this and everything straighten out. But since one kidney is more than just a little bit of backflow she will be having a non surgical procedure to correct it most likely. Didn't quiet understand but it sounds like a surgical balloon used to straighten it out.

Hey the clouds are still around... Because our Insurance Company is a room full of morons they think my girl hasn't had her 2 week check up, which she did 4 weeks ago, so they haven't issued her a policy so yeah... this past hospital visit may or may not be covered.... Cooks... may or may not be covered....

...never realized how hard something like this is for a father...
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avoid uti's by wiping front to back. It's a pretty big deal, every time, even if she only peed in a diaper. Also, make sure she's getting enough fluids.

poor baby sad.gif

Just get the paperwork from the doc office regarding the 2 week checkup and fax it to the insurance company, or have the doc office fax it to the insurance...that seems a bit retarded about the insurance companies.

A temp of 102 isn't as bad for babies though, as their basal temp is a bit higher than the "norm" of 98.6. 103+ is a lot more to worry about.

One other thing: any health issue..babies are resilient (usually), so it would be better to fix it now than if this issue started when she's more able to realize what's going on. She won't remember this, so less trauma, ya know? She'll be ok, the docs are taking care of her smile.gif

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QUOTE (indian_villager @ Jul 21 2009, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow that sucks I'll be rooting for good news over here. Best of luck my friend


Thanks.

QUOTE (Vampy6997 @ Jul 21 2009, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
avoid uti's by wiping front to back. It's a pretty big deal, every time, even if she only peed in a diaper. Also, make sure she's getting enough fluids.

poor baby sad.gif

Just get the paperwork from the doc office regarding the 2 week checkup and fax it to the insurance company, or have the doc office fax it to the insurance...that seems a bit retarded about the insurance companies.

A temp of 102 isn't as bad for babies though, as their basal temp is a bit higher than the "norm" of 98.6. 103+ is a lot more to worry about.


We do clean her properly. The bacteria that caused it was formed because of the backflow so there was nothing we could have done.

Yeah I am on the phone every day with them. They have everything they need they are just dragging their feet. Refaxed every thing to them this morning.

102 at 5 weeks the doc was concerned. Her norm temp is low like 98.0 most of the time.
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QUOTE (Stuie @ Jul 21 2009, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We do clean her properly. The bacteria that caused it was formed because of the backflow so there was nothing we could have done.

Yeah I am on the phone every day with them. They have everything they need they are just dragging their feet. Refaxed every thing to them this morning.

102 at 5 weeks the doc was concerned. Her norm temp is low like 98.0 most of the time.


well...have they determined the type of bacteria? might not have been from improper wiping so much as just bacteria from the hands. It had to get in there somehow (wipes typically don't disinfect, so say you fold over the wipe to wipe again with a clean portion, there's a possibility of it getting in somehow), not trying to be mean, could just be an evil bacteria that happened to find it's way to the urethra. Some forms of staph bacteria progress really quick once they find a way in and are commonly found on skin.

Backflow I don't think is uncommon...if you're referring to backflow from the bladder to the kidneys. It will happen *eventually* to any untreated uti/bladder infection. For people who have silent UTI's (no symptoms/pain/fever during the uti/bladder infection) it's quite dangerous.

I really hope your baby is back to healthy soon! smile.gif

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Sorry to hear that stuie, good luck you you all. Honestly, like others have said, it is best for a person to be sick early in life, easier to deal with. I know this probably isn't an immunity issue, but being sick earlier in life helps build the immunity system up as well. Be glad we have the amazing medical stuff we have so she can get taken care.

Any bills health related are always a pain the ass, I am still fighting my $2400 ER bill. Even if I run it through insurance, I still have to pay like $700 out of pocket. Thats medical insurance for you though. But hey, your baby girl is worth it though right? smile.gif
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Sorry to hear that Stuie, wishing and praying for the best.

Sorry to be a bitch Vampy, but thats not right. For kids, temps above 100 are worrisome, no matter how little they are.
Backflow from bladder to kidneys happens often in kids because of the length and the overall physical structure. When it happens in adults, its not good and could cause possibly kidney infections.

Stuie, you did nothing wrong, these things happen and hopefully with the surgery and treatment, your little girl will be playing in no time.
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QUOTE (Tati @ Jul 21 2009, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry to hear that Stuie, wishing and praying for the best.

Sorry to be a bitch Vampy, but thats not right. For kids, temps above 100 are worrisome, no matter how little they are.
Backflow from bladder to kidneys happens often in kids because of the length and the overall physical structure. When it happens in adults, its not good and could cause possibly kidney infections.

Stuie, you did nothing wrong, these things happen and hopefully with the surgery and treatment, your little girl will be playing in no time.



Oh, I wasn't saying the fever is not worrisome, but it's typically not the end of the world either. You're not being a bitch unless you say you are? LOL...

The health issues are dangerous, but I was saying to look into the silent UTI stuff. Regardless of her age right now, if the uti was silent, it will be later too.

What I was referring to regarding temp (not uti/kidney issues):
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But how high a fever is doesn't tell you much about how sick your child is. A simple cold or other viral infection can sometimes cause a rather high fever (in the 102°–104° Fahrenheit / 38.9°–40° Celsius range), but this doesn't usually indicate a serious problem. And serious infections may cause no fever or even an abnormally low body temperature, especially in infants.
Fevers in children

I've had a fever of 103+ as an adult with no known cause. Stuff like that does happen kinda randomly. 102 is scary, but the body's mechanism for fighting infection is to raise the temp. Lowering the temp artificially (unless the fever is dangerously high and not just indicating illness) can cause the infection to worsen. That's just my thought on it though.

Did you read my next post? it's my fault when I was writing my first reply, I hadn't read the entire post and missed the part about the kidney problems. I do understand that with a smaller body, backflow is quicker/shorter, but there had to have been symptoms prior unless it was a silent uti. If it was indeed silent, that in and of itself is cause for concern.
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Doc called, since the Insurance isn't straightened out, we can't get the referral to Cooks....wonderful...
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Sorry to hear about all this. I hope your Daughter gets well soon and I hope the Insurance company stops draggin their ass. I cant imagine what you are going through. Just know that we are all there for you.

Try calling and faxing the insurance company multiple times a day if you are able to. Maybe if you call and fax someone who is higher up in the chain than ur basic insurance lacky things may speed up a bit in getting the insurance to clear. HOpe all goes well. If you need anything just let me know
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gotta love insurance lol, and stuie i think your gonna be a great dad and i can tell just by the way you talk about your daughter, the insurance is gonna try to eff with you, fight back, at the end of the day she comes first and the insurance should ahve to beat you with a stick your on the ass so hard lol.
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I'm sorry to hear all thats happening to you. Hoping for the best

this post made me pretty emotional. the worlds a fucked up place sometimes. i dont think ill ever want kinds
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Hey Stuie, our second daughter had a myriad of health issues in her first 1.5 years. It was heartbreaking and so tiring to go through. Especially when it seems like the medical system has no major concern for expedience when you feel as a parent that nothing could be more important than getting the most prompt and complete care possible for your child.

Sorry to hear it sir, I'm hoping all is well soon.
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QUOTE (Stuie @ Jul 21 2009, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well starting Friday on my way to my car headed home when my wife called and my little girl had a temp of 102. After a quick check by the doctor they admitted her to the hospital. Lumbar Puncture (Oh the screams were bad), Blood Test and Urinalysis all come back and she has a UTI. Sucks, but at least we knew. But we had to stay through Monday for Observation and 2 more tests a Kidney Sonogram and VCUG (oh the screams again). Then we got to go home monday afternoon to a house with no power till midnight and no cable, internet or phone till 11 this morning...when it rains it pours. And the clouds aren't gone yet.

VCUG results just got called into us from our doctor and she has backflow on both her kidneys. We are getting an appointment made for a Pediatric Urologist at Cooks Children Hospital in Fort Worth (2 hour drive). There was a possibility she could grow out of this and everything straighten out. But since one kidney is more than just a little bit of backflow she will be having a non surgical procedure to correct it most likely. Didn't quiet understand but it sounds like a surgical balloon used to straighten it out.

Hey the clouds are still around... Because our Insurance Company is a room full of morons they think my girl hasn't had her 2 week check up, which she did 4 weeks ago, so they haven't issued her a policy so yeah... this past hospital visit may or may not be covered.... Cooks... may or may not be covered....

...never realized how hard something like this is for a father...


If the pregnancy was covered under your insurance, the baby should be automatically covered, unless there's some strange law in your state preventing it from being automatic. That's standard policy for every insurance company I've ever heard of or worked with - and there have been many. It may take a little bit to get the insurance issue straightened out, but the hospital will most likely work with you because quite frankly they're going to get money faster from an insurance company than from you. I know it's stressful when your child is sick. Hang in there, insist on good doctors you feel a trust with, and remember kids are little disease factories. They get sick a lot even though it's heartbreaking to deal with as a parent. Hang in there and she'll get better.

'Rani
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QUOTE (Stuie @ Jul 21 2009, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Doc called, since the Insurance isn't straightened out, we can't get the referral to Cooks....wonderful...


Go up the ladder. Keep calliing and keep politely stating, "I understand, however, may I please speak to your manager?" And keep going up. All the way to your State Insurance Commissioner's office. Be the squeakiest wheel in the history of squeaky wheels. I had to do that once and it was amazing how fast they responded when I got to the right upper level manager. Had an emergency appointment within an hour.

'Rani
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QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Jul 23 2009, 02:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Stuie @ Jul 21 2009, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well starting Friday on my way to my car headed home when my wife called and my little girl had a temp of 102. After a quick check by the doctor they admitted her to the hospital. Lumbar Puncture (Oh the screams were bad), Blood Test and Urinalysis all come back and she has a UTI. Sucks, but at least we knew. But we had to stay through Monday for Observation and 2 more tests a Kidney Sonogram and VCUG (oh the screams again). Then we got to go home monday afternoon to a house with no power till midnight and no cable, internet or phone till 11 this morning...when it rains it pours. And the clouds aren't gone yet.

VCUG results just got called into us from our doctor and she has backflow on both her kidneys. We are getting an appointment made for a Pediatric Urologist at Cooks Children Hospital in Fort Worth (2 hour drive). There was a possibility she could grow out of this and everything straighten out. But since one kidney is more than just a little bit of backflow she will be having a non surgical procedure to correct it most likely. Didn't quiet understand but it sounds like a surgical balloon used to straighten it out.

Hey the clouds are still around... Because our Insurance Company is a room full of morons they think my girl hasn't had her 2 week check up, which she did 4 weeks ago, so they haven't issued her a policy so yeah... this past hospital visit may or may not be covered.... Cooks... may or may not be covered....

...never realized how hard something like this is for a father...


If the pregnancy was covered under your insurance, the baby should be automatically covered, unless there's some strange law in your state preventing it from being automatic. That's standard policy for every insurance company I've ever heard of or worked with - and there have been many. It may take a little bit to get the insurance issue straightened out, but the hospital will most likely work with you because quite frankly they're going to get money faster from an insurance company than from you. I know it's stressful when your child is sick. Hang in there, insist on good doctors you feel a trust with, and remember kids are little disease factories. They get sick a lot even though it's heartbreaking to deal with as a parent. Hang in there and she'll get better.

'Rani


The insurance is a strange deal and by the time we realized it... it was too late. The baby is automatically covered under the mothers insurance... with one exception.... Medicare won't cover it. Since my wife is legally blind she get's Medicare coverage for free. So options were then my insurance or private policy... seeing as it's $500 a month for my daughter to be on my insurance, we went with a private policy, better coverage half the price. So that's how that worked out. My agent has been bugging them all day yesterday and will again today. I am confident it will be resolved soon.

Thanks for all your support guys and gals. It takes a lot of focus to keep from loosing it sometimes, she's just so small and all the painful procedures she has gone through... I guess it's just a father thing I am going to have to get use to.
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QUOTE (Stuie @ Jul 21 2009, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well starting Friday on my way to my car headed home when my wife called and my little girl had a temp of 102. After a quick check by the doctor they admitted her to the hospital. Lumbar Puncture (Oh the screams were bad), Blood Test and Urinalysis all come back and she has a UTI. Sucks, but at least we knew. But we had to stay through Monday for Observation and 2 more tests a Kidney Sonogram and VCUG (oh the screams again). Then we got to go home monday afternoon to a house with no power till midnight and no cable, internet or phone till 11 this morning...when it rains it pours. And the clouds aren't gone yet.

VCUG results just got called into us from our doctor and she has backflow on both her kidneys. We are getting an appointment made for a Pediatric Urologist at Cooks Children Hospital in Fort Worth (2 hour drive). There was a possibility she could grow out of this and everything straighten out. But since one kidney is more than just a little bit of backflow she will be having a non surgical procedure to correct it most likely. Didn't quiet understand but it sounds like a surgical balloon used to straighten it out.

Hey the clouds are still around... Because our Insurance Company is a room full of morons they think my girl hasn't had her 2 week check up, which she did 4 weeks ago, so they haven't issued her a policy so yeah... this past hospital visit may or may not be covered.... Cooks... may or may not be covered....

...never realized how hard something like this is for a father...


The good side is that it's nothing too seriouse that can't be corrected. The insurance company should have to retroactivly cover her stuff or you need to have a word with the insurance commissioner of your state. They tend to take BS like this from an insurance company VERY seriously.

Good luck and stay cool.


edit: I see i missed the last post. Sounds like you have it under control but if they keep giving you grief, I'd still contact the Commissoner. And remeber, the great times will far outnumber these few bad times, i'm told. smile.gif
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Glad to hear things are lookingup buddy.. I hate to hear stories about infants who are sick. Its such a tough thing to go through. I know how it is.

Only advice I can give is it gets easier with the second one..

Hey BTW did I miss it,, but I havnt seen any pics of her special pipe u were putting together??
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My youngest kid fell off her chair at dinner and hurt herself but good, is heading out to the hospital now with neck pains :/

Kids be sick and injured all over the place...keep us updated Stuie.
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^ hairline fracture of clavicle. I think she's coming home in a sling :/

/ threadjack
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