Has Anyone Tried One Of These Out?

[cxc5120]

I just saw this on Hookah-Shisha and the reviews sound good, but I like to hear from my fellow members lol. Anyone have any experience with one of these?

http://www.hookah-shisha.com/store/pc/view...;idproduct=1341

[combs08]

I've never had one personally, but I've heard theyre fantasic. LOTSSS more smoke.

[Zyram]

I have used them before, I really like mine, too bad I can't find it! I may order another, for one it helps reduce the noise and rattle (coals don't shake and you don't get bubbly time during whatever you're watching/listening to. I also noticed, to me anyways, smoke would seem smoother and the flavor was slightly enhanced. Not sure if this was just placebo or if it had to do with the filter or not. Buy one, give it a try and see what you think.

-Z

[Hobbs]

Never used that particular one, but the home made ones I've tried (which were crafted decently) didn't do anything but make the hookah more quiet.

Logically it seems impossible that it would produce more smoke. Perhaps smoother or cooler smoke since the bubbles are broken up therefore exposing more smoke directly to the liquid in your base since smoke swirling around in the middle of a large bubble may never actually come in contact with the water.

Pure speculation though, I study electronics not liquid dynamics.

[K1024]

it makes cooler/better filtered/quieter smoke. it also helps reduce the pull on the hookah, which would explain "more smoke"...

[combs08]

Yea, like I've said, never tried one personally, but I hear that you get bigger clouds. It may just be a placebo effect, I'm not sure.

[chinodos]

I have one, It definately helps the flavor and smoke density. Not sure how it works for sure but something about dispersing the smoke in the water more helps bring flavor out. Only bad thing about it is the smaller one fits most stems fine, but the second larger one that you get in the box doesn't fit any hookah i've ever tried it on. Although people have said that using the one smaller one is just as good as using both of them, so I guess thats not a big deal. Definately get one, its worth the money.

[Spats]

I have one I bought from the same source, but I've been too lazy to use it...
Still sitting in the box! I have 1 more day of vacation left, so mebbe tomorrow
Will post.

[He Who Cannot Be Named]

The Heba diffusers are amazing, would not smoke without one frankly. Not only does it quiet down the hookah (important for watching movies while hookahing) and give a better water filtration, but it also *seems* to enhance the taste of my shisha (though this may be the placebo effect). Note that if you are using a KM (and if your not you should be ) you will have to do some modification to the diffuser to get it to fit on, takes about 5 seconds with a knife to open up the hole wider.

In order, here are the 3 things I have found that add the most enjoyment for the least cost:
1) Phunnel Bowl ($10)
2) Good hose ($15)
3) Heba Diffuser ($10)...or free if you make your own

[dakur001]

I bought one of these from Hookah-Shisha a few months ago, and in my opinion the difference isn't exactly mind-blowing, but for ten bucks it's not a bad investment. As others have mentioned, it's a great thing to have if you like watching movies or listening to music while smoking, but as far as flavor enhancement and smoke density go, I think that packing methods and good coal management are more likely to have an impact.

[Zinite]

I've never had one personally, but I've heard theyre fantasic. LOTSSS more smoke.

it makes cooler/better filtered/quieter smoke. it also helps reduce the pull on the hookah, which would explain "more smoke"...

Yea, like I've said, never tried one personally, but I hear that you get bigger clouds. It may just be a placebo effect, I'm not sure.

It doesn't provide more smoke. The amount of smoke you get per time-interval (say your average pull lasts 3-5 seconds) is based off of the smallest diameter throughout your hookah system. For most people, this would be somewhere in the hose; which is why upgrading to a Nammor or KM hose makes it feel like you get a lot more smoke in a shorter amount of time. I've used one before, and all it did was lower the vibration of each pull by decreasing the surface area of the individual bubbles coming down the stem.

I bought one of these from Hookah-Shisha a few months ago, and in my opinion the difference isn't exactly mind-blowing, but for ten bucks it's not a bad investment. As others have mentioned, it's a great thing to have if you like watching movies or listening to music while smoking, but as far as flavor enhancement and smoke density go, I think that packing methods and good coal management are more likely to have an impact.

Exactly.

[Tom1]

I wouldn't use one, it nearly doubles your carbon monoxide intake.

[Zinite]

I wouldn't use one, it nearly doubles your carbon monoxide intake.

How do you figure? Regardless of any attachment, after the smoke begins to come from the bowl, before it hits the water, it will always have the same amount of CO.

[Tom1]

I wouldn't use one, it nearly doubles your carbon monoxide intake.

How do you figure? Regardless of any attachment, after the smoke begins to come from the bowl, before it hits the water, it will always have the same amount of CO.

I couldn't tell you, but you can't argue the results.

[kudomonster]

Exactly how do the CO levels increase? That makes absolutely zero sense!
I use a home made one on my MYA QT and there's a HUGE difference with it on and off. So much so, that I'm going to buy a heba diffuser for my KM. As everyone said, more flavor, smoother smoke and, while I cannot explain it, there is more smoke.
My theory on the smoke is you're pulling the smoke through multiple narrow openings which causes it to concentrate a little more before it's able to pull through the diffuser. It could just be placebo though.

[Tom1]

Exactly how do the CO levels increase? That makes absolutely zero sense!
I use a home made one on my MYA QT and there's a HUGE difference with it on and off. So much so, that I'm going to buy a heba diffuser for my KM. As everyone said, more flavor, smoother smoke and, while I cannot explain it, there is more smoke.
My theory on the smoke is you're pulling the smoke through multiple narrow openings which causes it to concentrate a little more before it's able to pull through the diffuser. It could just be placebo though.

Haha, again, we do not know why it does. These are tested results though.

[Zinite]

I wouldn't use one, it nearly doubles your carbon monoxide intake.

How do you figure? Regardless of any attachment, after the smoke begins to come from the bowl, before it hits the water, it will always have the same amount of CO.

I couldn't tell you, but you can't argue the results.

Exactly how do the CO levels increase? That makes absolutely zero sense!
I use a home made one on my MYA QT and there's a HUGE difference with it on and off. So much so, that I'm going to buy a heba diffuser for my KM. As everyone said, more flavor, smoother smoke and, while I cannot explain it, there is more smoke.
My theory on the smoke is you're pulling the smoke through multiple narrow openings which causes it to concentrate a little more before it's able to pull through the diffuser. It could just be placebo though.

Haha, again, we do not know why it does. These are tested results though.

Link to these results please? Until I see a study that specifically mentions diffuser vs no diffuser in a hookah water pipe, I'm calling MAJOR bullshit. It scientifically and logically doesn't make sense.

[714xDGAFxKING]

Exactly how do the CO levels increase? That makes absolutely zero sense!
I use a home made one on my MYA QT and there's a HUGE difference with it on and off. So much so, that I'm going to buy a heba diffuser for my KM. As everyone said, more flavor, smoother smoke and, while I cannot explain it, there is more smoke.
My theory on the smoke is you're pulling the smoke through multiple narrow openings which causes it to concentrate a little more before it's able to pull through the diffuser. It could just be placebo though.

you have me sold!! imma buy one for my QT!! and everyones going to be jealous of the billows of smoke i lay out!!! then i'm going to say " ohhh that diffuser thing sucks dont buy it" lol lol so only i can have choo choo train smoke coming out hahahahaa

[Tom1]

I wouldn't use one, it nearly doubles your carbon monoxide intake.

How do you figure? Regardless of any attachment, after the smoke begins to come from the bowl, before it hits the water, it will always have the same amount of CO.

I couldn't tell you, but you can't argue the results.

Exactly how do the CO levels increase? That makes absolutely zero sense!
I use a home made one on my MYA QT and there's a HUGE difference with it on and off. So much so, that I'm going to buy a heba diffuser for my KM. As everyone said, more flavor, smoother smoke and, while I cannot explain it, there is more smoke.
My theory on the smoke is you're pulling the smoke through multiple narrow openings which causes it to concentrate a little more before it's able to pull through the diffuser. It could just be placebo though.

Haha, again, we do not know why it does. These are tested results though.

Link to these results please? Until I see a study that specifically mentions diffuser vs no diffuser in a hookah water pipe, I'm calling MAJOR bullshit. It scientifically and logically doesn't make sense.

Call whatever you want, it's actually my college doing the school-sponsored research over the summer. The results are being presented at the american chemical societies national conference in washington dc. A journal published research paper will follow that, that's when you can see real results.

I'm just putting in my input on what I know to be fact.

[dakur001]

Here's a pretty straightforward explanation to how it works:

http://www.hookah-shisha.com/hookahlove/85...difference.html

Mind you, this is coming from Hookah-Shisha, the same guys who are selling it, so naturally they'll be singing this thing's praises. As for the CO levels increasing, I'm also uncertain of how this would happen. One thing I've noticed is that the diffuser turns yellow over time and slightly reduces the buzz, which leads me to believe that at least the nicotine levels are decreased, so I can't see how other chemical effects would be amplified. I don't know, I'm no expert, just my two cents.

Edit: The link to the hookah-shisha page was supposed to be in response to question of how it works, not to the CO issue, just wanted to clarify that I wasn't trying to pretentiously answer things I can't Edited July 26, 2009 by dakur001

[cxc5120]

Well thanks for everyones opinions, for $10 idk why I couldnt give it a chance.. Seeing as I dont really think itll double the CO.

[newjacksm]

I wouldn't use one, it nearly doubles your carbon monoxide intake.

How do you figure? Regardless of any attachment, after the smoke begins to come from the bowl, before it hits the water, it will always have the same amount of CO.

I couldn't tell you, but you can't argue the results.

Exactly how do the CO levels increase? That makes absolutely zero sense!
I use a home made one on my MYA QT and there's a HUGE difference with it on and off. So much so, that I'm going to buy a heba diffuser for my KM. As everyone said, more flavor, smoother smoke and, while I cannot explain it, there is more smoke.
My theory on the smoke is you're pulling the smoke through multiple narrow openings which causes it to concentrate a little more before it's able to pull through the diffuser. It could just be placebo though.

Haha, again, we do not know why it does. These are tested results though.

Link to these results please? Until I see a study that specifically mentions diffuser vs no diffuser in a hookah water pipe, I'm calling MAJOR bullshit. It scientifically and logically doesn't make sense.

Call whatever you want, it's actually my college doing the school-sponsored research over the summer. The results are being presented at the american chemical societies national conference in washington dc. A journal published research paper will follow that, that's when you can see real results.

I'm just putting in my input on what I know to be fact.

I can't wait to see you and your friends work.

[liquidglass]

I wouldn't use one, it nearly doubles your carbon monoxide intake.

How do you figure? Regardless of any attachment, after the smoke begins to come from the bowl, before it hits the water, it will always have the same amount of CO.

I couldn't tell you, but you can't argue the results.

Exactly how do the CO levels increase? That makes absolutely zero sense!
I use a home made one on my MYA QT and there's a HUGE difference with it on and off. So much so, that I'm going to buy a heba diffuser for my KM. As everyone said, more flavor, smoother smoke and, while I cannot explain it, there is more smoke.
My theory on the smoke is you're pulling the smoke through multiple narrow openings which causes it to concentrate a little more before it's able to pull through the diffuser. It could just be placebo though.

Haha, again, we do not know why it does. These are tested results though.

Link to these results please? Until I see a study that specifically mentions diffuser vs no diffuser in a hookah water pipe, I'm calling MAJOR bullshit. It scientifically and logically doesn't make sense.

Call whatever you want, it's actually my college doing the school-sponsored research over the summer. The results are being presented at the american chemical societies national conference in washington dc. A journal published research paper will follow that, that's when you can see real results.

I'm just putting in my input on what I know to be fact.

Not to start a debate, but you're giving your input based on what you believe to be fact from your experiences. However there was another thread in which Eric posted a medical study that showed diffusing the smoke possibly cut down on harmful artifacts of the smoke.

Speaking scientifically the only way you could double any Co2 is by in taking double the smoke at one time, which doesn't logically make sense. Because the bowl will burn approx. the same, which means you'll either get the Co2 in a condensed amount of time, or a prolonged time, but it will remain at the same level

[Tom1]

I wouldn't use one, it nearly doubles your carbon monoxide intake.

How do you figure? Regardless of any attachment, after the smoke begins to come from the bowl, before it hits the water, it will always have the same amount of CO.

I couldn't tell you, but you can't argue the results.

Exactly how do the CO levels increase? That makes absolutely zero sense!
I use a home made one on my MYA QT and there's a HUGE difference with it on and off. So much so, that I'm going to buy a heba diffuser for my KM. As everyone said, more flavor, smoother smoke and, while I cannot explain it, there is more smoke.
My theory on the smoke is you're pulling the smoke through multiple narrow openings which causes it to concentrate a little more before it's able to pull through the diffuser. It could just be placebo though.

Haha, again, we do not know why it does. These are tested results though.

Link to these results please? Until I see a study that specifically mentions diffuser vs no diffuser in a hookah water pipe, I'm calling MAJOR bullshit. It scientifically and logically doesn't make sense.

Call whatever you want, it's actually my college doing the school-sponsored research over the summer. The results are being presented at the american chemical societies national conference in washington dc. A journal published research paper will follow that, that's when you can see real results.

I'm just putting in my input on what I know to be fact.

Not to start a debate, but you're giving your input based on what you believe to be fact from your experiences. However there was another thread in which Eric posted a medical study that showed diffusing the smoke possibly cut down on harmful artifacts of the smoke.

Speaking scientifically the only way you could double any Co2 is by in taking double the smoke at one time, which doesn't logically make sense. Because the bowl will burn approx. the same, which means you'll either get the Co2 in a condensed amount of time, or a prolonged time, but it will remain at the same level

Exactly! I'm just helping out with the actual hookah procedures when needed, I leave the testing to the chemists. I said hey, try this diffuser I have, the theory is that it will filter the water better. It was tried multiple times with the same results.

You can say that it doesn't make sense all you want, but we still don't know why it came out as it did.

It's carbon monoxide, not carbon dioxide.

When you say that the CO level will always be the same, that's wrong. The CO intake is directly proportionally to the size and amount of coals on the bowl.

[Zinite]

I wouldn't use one, it nearly doubles your carbon monoxide intake.

How do you figure? Regardless of any attachment, after the smoke begins to come from the bowl, before it hits the water, it will always have the same amount of CO.

I couldn't tell you, but you can't argue the results.

Exactly how do the CO levels increase? That makes absolutely zero sense!
I use a home made one on my MYA QT and there's a HUGE difference with it on and off. So much so, that I'm going to buy a heba diffuser for my KM. As everyone said, more flavor, smoother smoke and, while I cannot explain it, there is more smoke.
My theory on the smoke is you're pulling the smoke through multiple narrow openings which causes it to concentrate a little more before it's able to pull through the diffuser. It could just be placebo though.

Haha, again, we do not know why it does. These are tested results though.

Link to these results please? Until I see a study that specifically mentions diffuser vs no diffuser in a hookah water pipe, I'm calling MAJOR bullshit. It scientifically and logically doesn't make sense.

Call whatever you want, it's actually my college doing the school-sponsored research over the summer. The results are being presented at the american chemical societies national conference in washington dc. A journal published research paper will follow that, that's when you can see real results.

I'm just putting in my input on what I know to be fact.

Not to start a debate, but you're giving your input based on what you believe to be fact from your experiences. However there was another thread in which Eric posted a medical study that showed diffusing the smoke possibly cut down on harmful artifacts of the smoke.

Speaking scientifically the only way you could double any Co2 is by in taking double the smoke at one time, which doesn't logically make sense. Because the bowl will burn approx. the same, which means you'll either get the Co2 in a condensed amount of time, or a prolonged time, but it will remain at the same level

Exactly! I'm just helping out with the actual hookah procedures when needed, I leave the testing to the chemists. I said hey, try this diffuser I have, the theory is that it will filter the water better. It was tried multiple times with the same results.

You can say that it doesn't make sense all you want, but we still don't know why it came out as it did.

It's carbon monoxide, not carbon dioxide.

When you say that the CO level will always be the same, that's wrong. The CO intake is directly proportionally to the size and amount of coals on the bowl.

Exactly. The intake of CO is proportional to the amount of coal. Period. Nothing you do after that point will effect the CO. CO hitting the water is still a gas, and it will not be filtered by the water. Hell, even an activated charcoal filter somewhere in the system wouldn't change the amount of CO you intake. I am very familiar with these scientific concepts, and I still call bullshit on the study.