Shipping Question

[sportsfan6216]

So, I had a friend shoot me a message because i'm the go-to guy in our group when it comes to hookah stuff. He told me that he just tried to order some shisha from a site (i won't name the site just because i'm asking an opinion not commenting on their service, it is a site we can talk about though)....... and they told him that last week a law passed prohibbiting the shipping of tobacco, including shisha to Washington State. I haven't gotten a chance to call another vendor to see if this is actually the case becuase i've been in classes for work for the last couple days but figured if this was actually the case someone here would know. If this is true this REALLY limits my selection, living in pullman my options are starbuzz, fantasia, a very SMALL collection of layalina (munchies is clearing their inventory of it) and prince (not the worst i've ever had but i've def had WAY better)


Oh and just for a laugh my friend was trying to order Hookah-Freak....... I haven't smoked with him in forever so he still has a lot to learn..... hahaha. I did talk him into a Mya last month though which was a step in the right direction.

[Zinite]

So, I had a friend shoot me a message because i'm the go-to guy in our group when it comes to hookah stuff. He told me that he just tried to order some shisha from a site (i won't name the site just because i'm asking an opinion not commenting on their service, it is a site we can talk about though)....... and they told him that last week a law passed prohibbiting the shipping of tobacco, including shisha to Washington State. I haven't gotten a chance to call another vendor to see if this is actually the case becuase i've been in classes for work for the last couple days but figured if this was actually the case someone here would know. If this is true this REALLY limits my selection, living in pullman my options are starbuzz, fantasia, a very SMALL collection of layalina (munchies is clearing their inventory of it) and prince (not the worst i've ever had but i've def had WAY better)


Oh and just for a laugh my friend was trying to order Hookah-Freak....... I haven't smoked with him in forever so he still has a lot to learn..... hahaha. I did talk him into a Mya last month though which was a step in the right direction.

Nope, not true. What website was this?

[sportsfan6216]

So, I had a friend shoot me a message because i'm the go-to guy in our group when it comes to hookah stuff. He told me that he just tried to order some shisha from a site (i won't name the site just because i'm asking an opinion not commenting on their service, it is a site we can talk about though)....... and they told him that last week a law passed prohibbiting the shipping of tobacco, including shisha to Washington State. I haven't gotten a chance to call another vendor to see if this is actually the case becuase i've been in classes for work for the last couple days but figured if this was actually the case someone here would know. If this is true this REALLY limits my selection, living in pullman my options are starbuzz, fantasia, a very SMALL collection of layalina (munchies is clearing their inventory of it) and prince (not the worst i've ever had but i've def had WAY better)


Oh and just for a laugh my friend was trying to order Hookah-Freak....... I haven't smoked with him in forever so he still has a lot to learn..... hahaha. I did talk him into a Mya last month though which was a step in the right direction.

Nope, not true. What website was this?

Sahara Smoke...... Like I said..... no offense meant to them but I just wanted to find out if it was true or not before mentioning their name..... makes me wonder why they would say something like that though?

[Zinite]

So, I had a friend shoot me a message because i'm the go-to guy in our group when it comes to hookah stuff. He told me that he just tried to order some shisha from a site (i won't name the site just because i'm asking an opinion not commenting on their service, it is a site we can talk about though)....... and they told him that last week a law passed prohibbiting the shipping of tobacco, including shisha to Washington State. I haven't gotten a chance to call another vendor to see if this is actually the case becuase i've been in classes for work for the last couple days but figured if this was actually the case someone here would know. If this is true this REALLY limits my selection, living in pullman my options are starbuzz, fantasia, a very SMALL collection of layalina (munchies is clearing their inventory of it) and prince (not the worst i've ever had but i've def had WAY better)


Oh and just for a laugh my friend was trying to order Hookah-Freak....... I haven't smoked with him in forever so he still has a lot to learn..... hahaha. I did talk him into a Mya last month though which was a step in the right direction.

Nope, not true. What website was this?

Sahara Smoke...... Like I said..... no offense meant to them but I just wanted to find out if it was true or not before mentioning their name..... makes me wonder why they would say something like that though?

Unless it's a state law, that's BS.

[sportsfan6216]

So, I had a friend shoot me a message because i'm the go-to guy in our group when it comes to hookah stuff. He told me that he just tried to order some shisha from a site (i won't name the site just because i'm asking an opinion not commenting on their service, it is a site we can talk about though)....... and they told him that last week a law passed prohibbiting the shipping of tobacco, including shisha to Washington State. I haven't gotten a chance to call another vendor to see if this is actually the case becuase i've been in classes for work for the last couple days but figured if this was actually the case someone here would know. If this is true this REALLY limits my selection, living in pullman my options are starbuzz, fantasia, a very SMALL collection of layalina (munchies is clearing their inventory of it) and prince (not the worst i've ever had but i've def had WAY better)


Oh and just for a laugh my friend was trying to order Hookah-Freak....... I haven't smoked with him in forever so he still has a lot to learn..... hahaha. I did talk him into a Mya last month though which was a step in the right direction.

Nope, not true. What website was this?

Sahara Smoke...... Like I said..... no offense meant to them but I just wanted to find out if it was true or not before mentioning their name..... makes me wonder why they would say something like that though?

Well, I found the law they are speaking of?

http://liq.wa.gov/2009-legislative-fact-sh...0SSB%205340.pdf

It states in the first paragraph of the summary that "A person may not ship tobacco products, other than cigars weighing more than three pounds for 1,000 units, purchased by mail or through the internet to anyone in Washington other than a licensed wholesaler or retailer"

That's the closest i can find that would apply though? I don't quite understand if shisha would apply though?

[Zinite]

Well, I found the law they are speaking of?

http://liq.wa.gov/2009-legislative-fact-sh...0SSB%205340.pdf

It states in the first paragraph of the summary that "A person may not ship tobacco products, other than cigars weighing more than three pounds for 1,000 units, purchased by mail or through the internet to anyone in Washington other than a licensed wholesaler or retailer"

That's the closest i can find that would apply though? I don't quite understand if shisha would apply though?

Amend5340Draft.pdf (application/pdf Object) is the proposed ammendment too. Weird...

[sportsfan6216]

Well, I found the law they are speaking of?

http://liq.wa.gov/2009-legislative-fact-sh...0SSB%205340.pdf

It states in the first paragraph of the summary that "A person may not ship tobacco products, other than cigars weighing more than three pounds for 1,000 units, purchased by mail or through the internet to anyone in Washington other than a licensed wholesaler or retailer"

That's the closest i can find that would apply though? I don't quite understand if shisha would apply though?

Amend5340Draft.pdf (application/pdf Object) is the proposed ammendment too. Weird...

Well then for now it seems as though SS knows what they are talking about........They really need to hustle that Amendment through then because my stash shrinks daily. Thanks for the help though Zinite......... What a sad day!

[Rani]

I suspect it's being read wrong. I appears to actually prohibit more than 3 pounds of tobacco being shipped to other than a licensed dealer. Cigars being exempted because they're usually sold by the box off the internet and the box weight would eat up most of the 3 pounds. The law actually makes sense this way because most regulated products are limited in large quantities to anyone not a licensed dealer.

'Rani

[RingsMaster]

I suspect it's being read wrong. I appears to actually prohibit more than 3 pounds of tobacco being shipped to other than a licensed dealer. Cigars being exempted because they're usually sold by the box off the internet and the box weight would eat up most of the 3 pounds. The law actually makes sense this way because most regulated products are limited in large quantities to anyone not a licensed dealer.

'Rani

so would that mean that his shisha couldnt be more than 3 pounds? im a little confused

[fineout]

3lbs is a shitton of shisha, thats like a kilo+the box and packing materials..maybe closer to 800g plus packing stuff but still

[sportsfan6216]

I suspect it's being read wrong. I appears to actually prohibit more than 3 pounds of tobacco being shipped to other than a licensed dealer. Cigars being exempted because they're usually sold by the box off the internet and the box weight would eat up most of the 3 pounds. The law actually makes sense this way because most regulated products are limited in large quantities to anyone not a licensed dealer.

'Rani

so would that mean that his shisha couldnt be more than 3 pounds? im a little confused

glad i'm not the only one...... also glad i'm on vacation in boise so i can pick some up in case it is the case that we can't get online orders anymore...... though i hope that's not the case

[Twisted]

It means that you can't get tobacco unless you're a licensed wholesaler or retailer. The 3 limit is only for cigars, notice where the commas are. Before the statement about the cigars and at the end of the statement.

[RingsMaster]

3lbs is a shitton of shisha, thats like a kilo+the box and packing materials..maybe closer to 800g plus packing stuff but still

i order at a min of a kilo at a time usually more so i have a good stash and dont have to order for a little while lol

[fineout]

^my mistake then, i usually go to a store and buy my shisha so ive never ordered shisha just hardware.

[Matt-641]

Yep, this law went into effect on Sunday actually...It's why I had to make a huge order a couple weeks beforehand, not sure what to do when I'll need shisha again. :/

[Arcane]

Yep, this law went into effect on Sunday actually...It's why I had to make a huge order a couple weeks beforehand, not sure what to do when I'll need shisha again. :/

order from another vendor and have the package shipped discreetly? Edited July 30, 2009 by Arcane

[Santino]

This wouldn't surprise me. Utah recently passed this as well. Damn states want their tax money.

[RingsMaster]

this is why i love texas and if texas fails on me i live in OK as well one way or another im gettin my shisha lol

[Sonthert]

Montana was the first, Utah did it a couple of months ago. I had heard Washington did it. I hope the amendment passes, so hookah tobacco will begin flowing in again.

The main problem is cigarettes being cross shipped from state-to-state to avoid excise taxes. Its that damned Constitution of the United States prohibiting taxation of interstate trade. The states can't collect their revenue. They want to lock people into buying at stores in the state. If they try the same thing with sales taxes and it spreads to more and more states, internet purchasing may cease to exist, in fact. They can;t justify the stopping of people from buying DVDs from Amazon/com, though, it doesn't sound as sinister as minors buying tobacco.