Af Solid Vs. Af Light

[dizzbizz]

So, I'm planning on buying a new AF hookah. I couldn't find a difference between their Light and Solid models. Obviously they look different, but does anyone know if there's a difference in build quality or anything else?

[RingsMaster]

So, I'm planning on buying a new AF hookah. I couldn't find a difference between their Light and Solid models. Obviously they look different, but does anyone know if there's a difference in build quality or anything else?

build quality is same last i check should smoke about them same just a matter of looks and weight

[delSol_si]

I just bought a solid one, but haven't had the chance to thoroughly look over it. From first glance, it looks to be better build quality than my KM ice if that tells you anything. Once I go back to college and pick it up from my buddies I will do a full review on it. I also know the solid is pretty heavy for a hookah stem in my opinion, much heavier than my KM. I don't know anything about the light though.

[dizzbizz]

Yeah the light is cheaper too, so I'm assuming thats because they use more material to build the solid. I'm stuck. I like them both. Maybe i should get both...hummm

[Balthazar]

I'd go with the solid if I was you. I've always found that more weight feels more like quality.

[ilikemyusername]

the solid is just that, its heavier because its solid.
the light is built like a more typical egyptian pipe, hollow pieces welded together with an independant downstem running throughout.
They should both smoke perfectly fine, i like the looks of the light more myself.

[Hippo_Master]

AF solid is heavier, and is built better. The welds are cleaner. The sheen of the stem is dull on the light, the heavy is just pure chrome, except the natural yellow brass colored parts, which are painted on. I believe on the light, the natural brass is not painted, but i'm not entirely sure...

[joytron]

The AF solids look better...



that is all

[foibled again]

the solid is just that, its heavier because its solid.
the light is built like a more typical egyptian pipe, hollow pieces welded together with an independant downstem running throughout.
They should both smoke perfectly fine, i like the looks of the light more myself.

The solid is built kinda like how you describe the light. It is made of brass pieces with a stem tube running through the middle of them. Each piece is not brazed together but instead they are held together by brazing at the top and bottom stem tube penetrations.

AF solid is heavier, and is built better. The welds are cleaner. The sheen of the stem is dull on the light, the heavy is just pure chrome, except the natural yellow brass colored parts, which are painted on. I believe on the light, the natural brass is not painted, but i'm not entirely sure...

I haven't taken a close look at the light in person so I can't say if the solid is built better. I'm not sure what you mean by pure chrome. On the solid, the silver pieces are nickel plated brass. The gold pieces are gold plated brass. Not all of the pieces making up the outer stem are solid. The chamber or heart of the hookah is hollow, not solid.

I would say go by looks. The weight difference between the two would be in the decorative pieces of the stem, as that's where the weight of the solid's stem comes from.

[liquidglass]

the solid is just that, its heavier because its solid.
the light is built like a more typical egyptian pipe, hollow pieces welded together with an independant downstem running throughout.
They should both smoke perfectly fine, i like the looks of the light more myself.

The solid is built kinda like how you describe the light. It is made of brass pieces with a stem tube running through the middle of them. Each piece is not brazed together but instead they are held together by brazing at the top and bottom stem tube penetrations.

AF solid is heavier, and is built better. The welds are cleaner. The sheen of the stem is dull on the light, the heavy is just pure chrome, except the natural yellow brass colored parts, which are painted on. I believe on the light, the natural brass is not painted, but i'm not entirely sure...

I haven't taken a close look at the light in person so I can't say if the solid is built better. I'm not sure what you mean by pure chrome. On the solid, the silver pieces are nickel plated brass. The gold pieces are gold plated brass. Not all of the pieces making up the outer stem are solid. The chamber or heart of the hookah is hollow, not solid.

I would say go by looks. The weight difference between the two would be in the decorative pieces of the stem, as that's where the weight of the solid's stem comes from.

I don't know about that man, not talking about AF hookahs specifically but for example I have a solidly built KM and a new KM which is what I consider "light" and to be honest how most hookahs are made.

The solid built KM is seriously solid, you can tell there is nothing hollow anywhere. (besides the stem of course ) which is more than I can say for the new KM.


But this is just my two cents, you'd really need to talk to hookah john about the differences.

[mattarios2]

i have no experience with either of them but in my experiences with other hookahs the solid will feel more solid, they both should last just as long, smoke the same, etc. one will just be constructed with heavier materials.

i know this sounds obvious but i believe all the info is somewhat obvious, no change in quality and durability (unless we are taking about hitting someone or something with it, the light may ding and what not) just in looks, design, and weight.

[liquidglass]

i have no experience with either of them but in my experiences with other hookahs the solid will feel more solid, they both should last just as long, smoke the same, etc. one will just be constructed with heavier materials.

i know this sounds obvious but i believe all the info is somewhat obvious, no change in quality and durability (unless we are taking about hitting someone or something with it, the light may ding and what not) just in looks, design, and weight.

What you don't use your hookah to be a super hero by night?

Personally I use my old school KM and at midnight I become Captain Sheesha! (good guy booming laugh)

[delSol_si]

From what I understood, the solid was...well solid, but the light was just hollow between the stem and the down tube inside. But, I could be wrong. All I know is my AF solid a ton heavier than my KM ice.

[gunsboy]

I second liquidglass. I know this is not what you asked but the new KM's that I saw on hookahjohn's videos are suuuuuuuupppppppeeeeerrrrrr awesome.

You cannot go wrong with those.

[dizzbizz]

Yeah, I really like the AFs though. But thanks for all your input guys. The more I look at the lights the more I like them and dislike the solids.

[foibled again]

I don't know about that man, not talking about AF hookahs specifically but for example I have a solidly built KM and a new KM which is what I consider "light" and to be honest how most hookahs are made.

The solid built KM is seriously solid, you can tell there is nothing hollow anywhere. (besides the stem of course ) which is more than I can say for the new KM.

But this is just my two cents, you'd really need to talk to hookah john about the differences.

I can tell you that's how the AF solid is made because I have one and have done some work on it. The nickel plated pieces of the stem appear to be solid but not all the gold plated pieces feel or sound like it. I wouldn't be able to tell for sure without disassembling the entire hookah which is more trouble than it is worth, although I have rebrazed some portions of it for cosmetic reasons. I can actually twist some of the pieces by hand, although it's really tight. That tells me the stem is not one big solid piece (easy to tell visually also) and that they are not all brazed together. The lower part of the stem/chamber/heart that contains the hose and purge ports is definitely hollow. The weight of the stem comes from the decorative pieces. Mine also has a small internal leak in the purge port. If one end of the port is sealed and air is blown in the other, it will come out at the edge of the lower gold piece.

[dizzbizz]

I don't know about that man, not talking about AF hookahs specifically but for example I have a solidly built KM and a new KM which is what I consider "light" and to be honest how most hookahs are made.

The solid built KM is seriously solid, you can tell there is nothing hollow anywhere. (besides the stem of course ) which is more than I can say for the new KM.

But this is just my two cents, you'd really need to talk to hookah john about the differences.

I can tell you that's how the AF solid is made because I have one and have done some work on it. The nickel plated pieces of the stem appear to be solid but not all the gold plated pieces feel or sound like it. I wouldn't be able to tell for sure without disassembling the entire hookah which is more trouble than it is worth, although I have rebrazed some portions of it for cosmetic reasons. I can actually twist some of the pieces by hand, although it's really tight. That tells me the stem is not one big solid piece (easy to tell visually also) and that they are not all brazed together. The lower part of the stem/chamber/heart that contains the hose and purge ports is definitely hollow. The weight of the stem comes from the decorative pieces. Mine also has a small internal leak in the purge port. If one end of the port is sealed and air is blown in the other, it will come out at the edge of the lower gold piece.

Well thats a sad thing to hear. I just love the way these babes look. They look so good they're babes in my book.

[foibled again]

Well thats a sad thing to hear. I just love the way these babes look. They look so good they're babes in my book.

It's not that big of a deal. It's not detectable during pulls or purging, only when I seal one end and blow in the other. I think I know where the leak actually is but to get at it would require opening up the chamber and to me it's not worth it.

[dizzbizz]

Yeah, I hear ya. I just want a good quality pipe. Something so negligible wont ruin it for me.