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For the past few months I have been using cocos. But the girlfriend got the electric bill and she's not happy. I thought she was gonna beat me, but she did worse. She said I couldn't use the stove to light my coals wallbash.gif .

I'm on unpaid administrative leave so I don't have the finances to fund the happy times. What would you suggest to light my cocos? And quicklites are a no no for now. I would only switch back if hookah withdrawls kick in.

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Yea, even when I was using the walgreens burner to light mine when I had a gas stove, I never had a higher bill for my electric, at least not by 30bucks, maybe 2 or 3 but that was even when I was smoking bowls all day long after I lost a job back in January. I don't think it's the hookah man, have you gotten new electronics recently? What has made my electric bill go up before (still not by 30 bucks, but around 15-20) was my new computer I built for games, and I leave it running at night to play music while I go to sleep. I know the PC did this because when I moved in with my grandparents for a summer their bill went up about 20bucks when I had my PC going.

Sorry for the novel, I'm just saying, a stove doesn't use that much electricity to light a hookah coal, and if it does, try putting all the coals on a single burner tongue.gif

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On an electric stove using the large burner (3500 watts is typical for the large burner) for 10 minutes with an electric price of 10 cents per KWH, it costs less than six cents every time you light a set of coals. Your actual cost is probably lower for electric in tidewater VA and I doubt you use the large burner. With the 6 cent price above, you could light four sets of coals a day for under $10 a month.

In august in VA, I'm guessing the major cost on the bill will be A/C. My winter bills are $60 and my summer bills are $200-300 with the A/C off during the day while I'm at work. Sounds like she just wants an excuse to kick you off the stove smile.gif
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QUOTE (bolt in blue @ Aug 13 2009, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On an electric stove using the large burner (3500 watts is typical for the large burner) for 10 minutes with an electric price of 10 cents per KWH, it costs less than six cents every time you light a set of coals. Your actual cost is probably lower for electric in tidewater VA and I doubt you use the large burner. With the 6 cent price above, you could light four sets of coals a day for under $10 a month.

In august in VA, I'm guessing the major cost on the bill will be A/C. My winter bills are $60 and my summer bills are $200-300 with the A/C off during the day while I'm at work. Sounds like she just wants an excuse to kick you off the stove smile.gif


exactly what I started thinking when I saw he was in VA. I'm in Texas so it's similar, summer time bills are double or more (I have dogs so I can't let the house get TOO hot, but I do turn the thermos up some when I leave). It's just August and it's expensive to stay cool.

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It looks kind of shady, but on the south side of our apartment we have blankets hanging up over all the windows to keep the sunlight out. Doing that and making sure there are not leaks around your doors/windows should drop your electric cost by at least $10, maybe more, but it depends on how cool you keep your place.
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I haven't noticed my electric bill going any higher with coals, that doesn't make any sense. One of the biggest users of electricity is the water heater and A/C. In Florida, during the Summer, my electric bill is 200-250 a month. tongue.gif It hurts but, eh, it's not much in the long run and I like being comfortable in my damn apartment!

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QUOTE (gunsNhookah @ Aug 13 2009, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the past few months I have been using cocos. But the girlfriend got the electric bill and she's not happy. I thought she was gonna beat me, but she did worse. She said I couldn't use the stove to light my coals wallbash.gif .

I'm on unpaid administrative leave so I don't have the finances to fund the happy times. What would you suggest to light my cocos? And quicklites are a no no for now. I would only switch back if hookah withdrawls kick in.


HAHAHAHA that had me rollin laugh.gif


maybe you should get one of those walgreens portable coil burners
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It's not the stove, something else is killing you.

Most stove burners are in the 1200 watt range. But for the sake of having it covered, lets assume its 2000 watt. US average electrical cost is 12 cents/KWh. You can run a burner for 30 minutes for 12 cents, man, you gotta be lighting enough coals to bbq a side of beef before it affects the bill much.
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QUOTE (Svaals @ Aug 13 2009, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, sometimes I take a cold shower to keep the bill down. And wash your clothes with cold water wink.gif


I believe this would be associated with the gas bill, not electricity... at least everywhere i've ever lived. Sounds kinda bogus though gunsNhookah Edited by Jeff_T
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QUOTE (Jeff_T @ Aug 14 2009, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Svaals @ Aug 13 2009, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, sometimes I take a cold shower to keep the bill down. And wash your clothes with cold water wink.gif


I believe this would be associated with the gas bill, not electricity... at least everywhere i've ever lived. Sounds kinda bogus though gunsNhookah



nah, there's electric water heaters...but, they cost more than the natural gas or propane water heaters. in fact, there's really no reason to get an electric water heater over a propane/natural gas.
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she has no right to kick you off the stove with the cost you'd be incurring. Either she's talking about the utility bill in general and is taking long hot showers, running the dishwasher too much, leaving lights on, or washing clothes in hot water constantly. Sounds suspect to me.

Lay low for a month, see what happens with next months bill if all else remains constant then it's something else, not the precious coals.


Also has she ever complained about you smoking hookah before? If so she's using this as a bogus reason to manipulate you into stopping.
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QUOTE (Jeff_T @ Aug 13 2009, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Svaals @ Aug 13 2009, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, sometimes I take a cold shower to keep the bill down. And wash your clothes with cold water wink.gif


I believe this would be associated with the gas bill, not electricity... at least everywhere i've ever lived. Sounds kinda bogus though gunsNhookah


That depends on whether or not you have a gas or electric water heater. My last two apartments have had electric heating and electric water heating. Oddly enough the amount of money I pay has dropped quite a bit since I no longer have a gas bill. I was dropping around $40 for electricity and $40 for gas before. Now I just pay about $45-$50 for electricity. $55 with the a/c running. Edited by Ralleac
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I'm not sure what the watt range is, but I do use the large coil. I don't ever leave it on longer than 10 mins. I might smoke 2-3 rounds of coals. And I smoke about 2 bowls a day. So that's about 60 mins of stove time a day.

I did calculations and it comes to at most 40 a month just for lighting coals.

Trechery is afoot.

Fuck it, Imma smoke anyways...
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QUOTE (Arcane @ Aug 13 2009, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ilikemyusername @ Aug 14 2009, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (norcalsmoker @ Aug 13 2009, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My stove is electric and my electricity bill is never over like thirty bucks??


WHAT! wheres this?



probably in NorCal....ha! tongue.gif


Yeah, NorCal is cheap for those items.
I have a house now with black out curtains if needed and an energy star new AC. It comes out to about $25-$40 a month depending on how much T.V. and A.C. I run.
Gas is never over $10 for me. But then again...my Oven doesn't work anymore so that saves a bunch. The top burners do but not the oven.

Back when I had an apartment. It was about half of that for Electricity as long as the A.C. was turned off...Which the ol-lady never did. Otherwise it was twice that because she would run the A.C. and T.V. all day.
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QUOTE (sleeperhit @ Aug 14 2009, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Arcane @ Aug 13 2009, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ilikemyusername @ Aug 14 2009, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (norcalsmoker @ Aug 13 2009, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My stove is electric and my electricity bill is never over like thirty bucks??


WHAT! wheres this?



probably in NorCal....ha! tongue.gif


Yeah, NorCal is cheap for those items.
I have a house now with black out curtains if needed and an energy star new AC. It comes out to about $25-$40 a month depending on how much T.V. and A.C. I run.
Gas is never over $10 for me. But then again...my Oven doesn't work anymore so that saves a bunch. The top burners do but not the oven.

Back when I had an apartment. It was about half of that for Electricity as long as the A.C. was turned off...Which the ol-lady never did. Otherwise it was twice that because she would run the A.C. and T.V. all day.



Ya I live in norcal lol, I never turn on my air conditioner, I only run fans. My electricity bill has never been over thirty bucks and my pg&e bill is normally about five bucks lol. However I do live in a 700-800 square foot apartment.
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Funny thing is that I paid more in my 700sqft 1bd 1bth apartment then I do in my 1350sqft 2bd 2bth.
I remember before I had the energy star A.C. a few years ago when I lived in this same house and it was about $140 during the summer each month without black out curtains. I use to run everything a lot though.

Now I know...
Bock out sun in rooms that don't need it. Leave lights off when not using them.
Turn modem off when not on internet.
T.V. stays off when not watching.
Unplug all chargers (phone, laptop) when not charging.

You save a ton of money.
Plus i live in Sacramento, we have SMUD for electricity PG&E for just gas.
I remember PG&E when I lived in the bay area. They are much MUCH cheaper in the summer and winter heavy months.
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