fcbayern Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 So when I first started smoking I used to get super nauseous after smoking. Neddless to say that with the help of my friends here, I figured out my mistakes (like waiting for QL's to be fully lit). Jump forward to yesterday. I was trying out some new coals smoking a bowl of SB pink. As I'm smokin I noticed the coals a burning a bit hotter than I'm used to and I am getting very low flavor. I know I was running the ragged edge of burning my shisha, but I was getting monster clouds, and not bad flavor or harshness, just little or no flavor. I was having soooo much fun with the monster clouds that i continued to smoke this way for about an hour. When My session was over I stood up from my chair and immediately had to got lay down. I was really sick, cold sweats and all. I really wanted to puke. After about another hour of laying in bed, and a good shower I felt better with just a bit of a headache.So I know what I was doing wrong. (I was running the shisha way too hot, but not harsh) My question is "Why would I feel soo bad from burning the shisha hotter? Does more nicotine burn out of the leaf at higher temps? Does it have to do with the burning Glycerine? Is this a CO2 thing? Or you think it just has something to do with the Volume of smoke I ingested?P.S. The New coals were just regular CH Natural coals, just a new box. I have Smoked these plenty of times before. It just seems this batch was slightly hotter than my last. I don't think this has anything to do with the coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgheyitskenny Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Did you eat before you smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 QUOTE (fcbayern @ Aug 20 2009, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So when I first started smoking I used to get super nauseous after smoking. Neddless to say that with the help of my friends here, I figured out my mistakes (like waiting for QL's to be fully lit). Jump forward to yesterday. I was trying out some new coals smoking a bowl of SB pink. As I'm smokin I noticed the coals a burning a bit hotter than I'm used to and I am getting very low flavor. I know I was running the ragged edge of burning my shisha, but I was getting monster clouds, and not bad flavor or harshness, just little or no flavor. I was having soooo much fun with the monster clouds that i continued to smoke this way for about an hour. When My session was over I stood up from my chair and immediately had to got lay down. I was really sick, cold sweats and all. I really wanted to puke. After about another hour of laying in bed, and a good shower I felt better with just a bit of a headache.So I know what I was doing wrong. (I was running the shisha way too hot, but not harsh) My question is "Why would I feel soo bad from burning the shisha hotter? Does more nicotine burn out of the leaf at higher temps? Does it have to do with the burning Glycerine? Is this a CO2 thing? Or you think it just has something to do with the Volume of smoke I ingested?P.S. The New coals were just regular CH Natural coals, just a new box. I have Smoked these plenty of times before. It just seems this batch was slightly hotter than my last. I don't think this has anything to do with the coals.well, you were probably slightly burning the tobacco its self. THAT'LL fuck you up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) maybe burning the tobacco and i believe if you get it too hot, you get more nicotine? or something like that...i remember someone saying that was the case with Tangiers...underpacked bowl, means too much heat, means more nicotine is vaporized, means your face gets melted.then again, its SB...so, i dunno if it was actually the nicotine... Edited August 20, 2009 by Arcane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remy Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 lack of oxygen imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikhman Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Yep, lack of oxygen. also if you were smoking is a small area could also have been the CO build up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcbayern Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 QUOTE (mushrat @ Aug 20 2009, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (fcbayern @ Aug 20 2009, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So when I first started smoking I used to get super nauseous after smoking. Neddless to say that with the help of my friends here, I figured out my mistakes (like waiting for QL's to be fully lit). Jump forward to yesterday. I was trying out some new coals smoking a bowl of SB pink. As I'm smokin I noticed the coals a burning a bit hotter than I'm used to and I am getting very low flavor. I know I was running the ragged edge of burning my shisha, but I was getting monster clouds, and not bad flavor or harshness, just little or no flavor. I was having soooo much fun with the monster clouds that i continued to smoke this way for about an hour. When My session was over I stood up from my chair and immediately had to got lay down. I was really sick, cold sweats and all. I really wanted to puke. After about another hour of laying in bed, and a good shower I felt better with just a bit of a headache.So I know what I was doing wrong. (I was running the shisha way too hot, but not harsh) My question is "Why would I feel soo bad from burning the shisha hotter? Does more nicotine burn out of the leaf at higher temps? Does it have to do with the burning Glycerine? Is this a CO2 thing? Or you think it just has something to do with the Volume of smoke I ingested?P.S. The New coals were just regular CH Natural coals, just a new box. I have Smoked these plenty of times before. It just seems this batch was slightly hotter than my last. I don't think this has anything to do with the coals.well, you were probably slightly burning the tobacco its self. THAT'LL fuck you up....QUOTE (Arcane @ Aug 20 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>maybe burning the tobacco and i believe if you get it too hot, you get more nicotine? or something like that...i remember someone saying that was the case with Tangiers...underpacked bowl, means too much heat, means more nicotine is vaporized, means your face gets melted.then again, its SB...so, i dunno if it was actually the nicotine...I think you guys are right. Just now I went to clean the bowl, and the shisha that came out of it was just a black crispy crunchy hockey puck. SO I think I just was burning the tobacco itself.. This seems weird cuz it wasnt harsh or tingly in my throat at all. Again i new I was running it on the hot side, my bad, but I was just loving the super atomic, need a fucking fog horn to find the hose again clouds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 starbuzz has practically no nicotine. if he burned the tobacco it would taste like a cigarette essentially, practically impossible to do with foil on the bowl. my advice, stop smoking chemical laced food dyed tobacco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcbayern Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 QUOTE (Scoop @ Aug 20 2009, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>starbuzz has practically no nicotine. if he burned the tobacco it would taste like a cigarette essentially, practically impossible to do with foil on the bowl. my advice, stop smoking chemical laced food dyed tobacco#1 what a creepy Avatsr Scoop, I mean I saw it efore but didnt really pay attention to it.. GROSS#2 the only other tobacco that I think comes close to SB is Tang, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illadelph Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I've also experienced this the past couple times I've smoked. Dizzyness, (especially when I try to stand) cold sweats, feeling like I'm going to hurl.. not good.I think I probably didn't put enough shisha in the bowl and it got too hot too quick. Or It could be my hookah that I've washed a few times and might have rusted a bit in the hose or something. Also I was just in my room which isn't huge so it could've been co2 related, I guess I was asking for it lol. I'm going to switch hookahs, locations, and pack more shisah! see if that helps. :]As for starbuzz having very little nicotine? I heard that cleopatra has .5% nic and starbuzz has .05% which is not true. I actually have both and they're both .05%. (which is kind of the standard amount across the board isn't it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 QUOTE (illadelph @ Aug 20 2009, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>.5% nic and starbuzz has .05% which is not true. I actually have both and they're both .05%. (which is kind of the standard amount across the board isn't it?).05 means that the tobacco has been washed, .5 like nakhla is the standard, in my book anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illadelph Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) What does it mean if it's washed? They're both still juicy and what not, how are they "washing" the nic out?*edit: or is that just a term meaning that it's watered down so to speak. Edited August 21, 2009 by illadelph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svaals Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Nicotine is water soluble, so if you soak/boil/wash the leaves, some of the nicotine will not be in your final product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (illadelph @ Aug 21 2009, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What does it mean if it's washed? They're both still juicy and what not, how are they "washing" the nic out?*edit: or is that just a term meaning that it's watered down so to speak.the juice gets added after its washed...lol. tobacco leaves don't come pre-flavored and covered in glycerine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svaals Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Arcane @ Aug 20 2009, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (illadelph @ Aug 21 2009, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What does it mean if it's washed? They're both still juicy and what not, how are they "washing" the nic out?*edit: or is that just a term meaning that it's watered down so to speak.the juice gets added after its washed...lol. tobacco leaves don't come pre-flavored and covered in glycerine.Come on, genetic engineering!! Edited August 21, 2009 by Svaals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illadelph Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (Arcane @ Aug 20 2009, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (illadelph @ Aug 21 2009, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What does it mean if it's washed? They're both still juicy and what not, how are they "washing" the nic out?*edit: or is that just a term meaning that it's watered down so to speak.the juice gets added after its washed...lol. tobacco leaves don't come pre-flavored and covered in glycerine.lol obviously yeah.. the thought that you could possibly wash your shisha to get some of the nicotine out (for whatever reason?) is what confused me. I had no idea that nicotine was water soluble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Justa wild guess. It was raining when you were smoking it. Or it had just finished raining. If this is the case, its acclimation. I know its weird.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcbayern Posted August 21, 2009 Author Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (Sonthert @ Aug 21 2009, 07:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Justa wild guess. It was raining when you were smoking it. Or it had just finished raining. If this is the case, its acclimation. I know its weird....WTF Eric that is Fucking creepy man... It had been raining all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Acclimation issues with SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalGuY Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (fcbayern @ Aug 21 2009, 06:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Sonthert @ Aug 21 2009, 07:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Justa wild guess. It was raining when you were smoking it. Or it had just finished raining. If this is the case, its acclimation. I know its weird....WTF Eric that is Fucking creepy man... It had been raining all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Acclimation issues with SB?or he just saw your location as maimi and checked the weathernetwork, acctauly i think everyone knows there is a hurricane in that area so rain is expected.. hes a smart man but not a fortune teller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcbayern Posted August 21, 2009 Author Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (PalGuY @ Aug 21 2009, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (fcbayern @ Aug 21 2009, 06:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Sonthert @ Aug 21 2009, 07:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Justa wild guess. It was raining when you were smoking it. Or it had just finished raining. If this is the case, its acclimation. I know its weird....WTF Eric that is Fucking creepy man... It had been raining all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Acclimation issues with SB?or he just saw your location as maimi and checked the weathernetwork, acctauly i think everyone knows there is a hurricane in that area so rain is expected.. hes a smart man but not a fortune teller I doubt Eric would go through sooo much trouble just to impress me. I'm quite sure he has much better things to do with his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 QUOTE (fcbayern @ Aug 20 2009, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Scoop @ Aug 20 2009, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>starbuzz has practically no nicotine. if he burned the tobacco it would taste like a cigarette essentially, practically impossible to do with foil on the bowl. my advice, stop smoking chemical laced food dyed tobacco#1 what a creepy Avatsr Scoop, I mean I saw it efore but didnt really pay attention to it.. GROSS#2 the only other tobacco that I think comes close to SB is Tang,#1 that is from the VNV Nation video for the song Illusion...love the band, got to see them twice livesounds like CO2 poisoning...I used to get that a lot early on in my shisha smoking career...now once in a while it happens to me, usually when I'm not using a phunnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 QUOTE (fcbayern @ Aug 21 2009, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (PalGuY @ Aug 21 2009, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (fcbayern @ Aug 21 2009, 06:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Sonthert @ Aug 21 2009, 07:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Justa wild guess. It was raining when you were smoking it. Or it had just finished raining. If this is the case, its acclimation. I know its weird....WTF Eric that is Fucking creepy man... It had been raining all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Acclimation issues with SB?or he just saw your location as maimi and checked the weathernetwork, acctauly i think everyone knows there is a hurricane in that area so rain is expected.. hes a smart man but not a fortune teller I doubt Eric would go through sooo much trouble just to impress me. I'm quite sure he has much better things to do with his time.My crystal ball is mighty!Tangiers does that all the time when it rains. I have suspected that high water content brands go through acclimation issues for some time now, just nobody talks about it or believes it. Its an acclimation issue. +1 for science. Current score: Science: 47, Blind Faith: 5.06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcbayern Posted August 24, 2009 Author Share Posted August 24, 2009 I have blind faith in Erics Science!!!Btw i have commented a few times here on the acclimation issues of SB before. And I have been told I was crazy. Nice to know I'm not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 QUOTE (Sonthert @ Aug 22 2009, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Its an acclimation issue. +1 for science. Current score: Science: 47, Blind Faith: 5.06Lucky Guesses: 736.8, Illogical Truths: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Answers to questions not posed: -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now