Sonthert Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 If they regulate sheesha, they'll have to regulate pipe tobacco which is the most respectable (and fastest growing subset of tobacco) segment of the tobacco industry. The North American Tobacco Organization (NATO), published their summary of the artice and also agreed it only applied to cigarettes...not to pipe tobacco, which is what sheesa is a subset of. Hey Nick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon` Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Doubt shisa will be included in that, if it is, riot anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (Brandon` @ Aug 25 2009, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Doubt shisa will be included in that, if it is, riot anybody?i'm down.and if they do start crackin down on hookah tobacco...i guess i'm just gonna break the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amn_sinclair Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 if the shisha gets addected by this ban im here in germany for 2 more years we can start an underground railroad lol. Im also down ro riot if need be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0aded Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 im guessing sweet dreams or "Imported Dreams" in vanilla and chocolate are gonna be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svaals Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (indian_villager @ Aug 25 2009, 01:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well shisha is flying under the radar. When it comes under heat what do you as the smoker plan on doing about it?Call the ACLU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyj316 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (Amn_sinclair @ Aug 25 2009, 06:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if the shisha gets addected by this ban im here in germany for 2 more years we can start an underground railroad lol. Im also down ro riot if need beThreadjackAre you in Karlsruhe by chance? I noticed you have K-town listed as where you're at in Deutschland....I had a friend who studied abroad at the university in Karlsruhe/Threadjack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpimpitox Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 z0mg its Nick!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimo281 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 It kinda should upset you weather or not it affects you. Yeah they might be trying to good if that's really what it's aimed to do, but at the same time none of it should be the governments decision. Just like if you don't agree with abortion, do you really think it's right to let the government control that decision? In my opinion the government shouldn't even have as much control as they do now. I'm not saying the government is shit and we don't need them but there is a point where you have to draw a line. Little things like this will just build up and they will start making more and more decisions for us. I mean maybe we shouldn't worry about living our own lives and let the government play puppet master as we all go on about our days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 First they came for the clove cigarettes, and I didn’t speak up, because I didn't smoke them.Then they came for the menthol cigarettes, and I didn’t speak up, because I didn't smoke them. Then they came for the light cigarettes, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a hookah smoker.Then they came for hookah tobacco, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 how long until this goes into effect? I'm gonna have to stock up on cloves...maybe buy a few cartons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian_villager Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 QUOTE (liquidglass @ Aug 25 2009, 02:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if people chose to smoke chemicals, let them. It won't make them crash into someone of the freeway.You do realize that EVERYTHING is make of "chemicals" right? I honestly feel that the govenment needs to step the fuck out of this business. This is America Damn it. If I want to smoke a clove/menthol/light cigarette it is my damn right. This is what I keep talking about. Bullshit regulations being pushed left and right on the public.They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.-Benjamin FranklinI'm all for everybody running around with healthcare. But I'm not so sure I want to be sitting in a padded room wrapped in biodegradable bubble wrap and breathing from an oxygen mask to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 QUOTE (xpimpitox @ Aug 25 2009, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>z0mg its Nick!?!:highfive: What is up my homie!And harro Eric! Hope all is well with everyone. I'll probably stick around a bit more, as I'm still rocking the hookah.[ /derail] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellywerker Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 QUOTE (Twisted @ Aug 24 2009, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>They need to focus more of their energy on obesity, tbh. More and more kids are becoming fat.Cigarettes help you lose weight. That's enough evidence for many people to argue that cigarettes are healthy, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidglass Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 QUOTE (indian_villager @ Aug 25 2009, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (liquidglass @ Aug 25 2009, 02:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if people chose to smoke chemicals, let them. It won't make them crash into someone of the freeway.You do realize that EVERYTHING is make of "chemicals" right? I honestly feel that the govenment needs to step the fuck out of this business. This is America Damn it. If I want to smoke a clove/menthol/light cigarette it is my damn right. This is what I keep talking about. Bullshit regulations being pushed left and right on the public.They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.-Benjamin FranklinI'm all for everybody running around with healthcare. But I'm not so sure I want to be sitting in a padded room wrapped in biodegradable bubble wrap and breathing from an oxygen mask to get it.Well yes everything is made of chemicals, but the point in question is about cigarettes, and if you can show me another product that contains as many chemicals that you would not normally consume in food/drink then be my guest. My point was the same as yous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Well this is the list of what should be allowed as ingredients in cigarettes * Alfalfa Extract* Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil* Almond Bitter Oil* Ambergris Tincture* Amyris Oil* Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil* Anise* Anise Star, Extract and Oils* Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins* Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate* Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil* Ascorbic Acid* 1-Aspartic Acid* Balsam Peru and Oil* Basil Oil* Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil* Beeswax White* Beet Juice Concentrate* Bergamot Oil* Bisabolene* Black Currant Buds Absolute* Buchu Leaf Oil* Caffeine* Capsicum Oleoresin* Caraway Oil* Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder* Carob Bean and Extract* beta-Carotene* Carrot Oil* Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract* Cassia Bark Oil* Cassie Absolute and Oil* Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute* Cedar Leaf Oil* Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana* Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin* Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract* Chicory Extract* Chocolate* Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract* Citric Acid* Clary Oil* Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract* Cocoa* Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder* Coconut Oil* Coffee* Cognac White and Green Oil* Copaiba Oil* Coriander Extract and Oil* Corn Oil* Corn Silk* Costus Root Oil* Cubeb Oil* Davana Oil* Dill Seed Oil and Extract* Fennel Sweet Oil* Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute* Fig Juice Concentrate* Galbanum Oil* Genet Absolute* Gentian Root Extract* Geraniol* Geranium Rose Oil* Ginger Oil and Oleoresin* Grape Juice Concentrate* Guaiac Wood Oil* Honey* Hops Oil* Hyssop Oil* Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil* Kola Nut Extract* Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin* Lavender Oil* Lemon Oil and Extract* Lemongrass Oil* Licorice Root, Fluid, Extract and Powder* Lime Oil* Mace Powder, Extract and Oil* Mandarin Oil* Maple Syrup and Concentrate* Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil* Menthol* Mimosa Absolute and Extract* Molasses Extract and Tincture* Mountain Maple Solid Extract* Mullein Flowers* Myrrh Oil* Nonanal----------------------------he heheheh* Nutmeg Powder and Oil* Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute* Orange Oil and Extract* Orris Concrete Oil and Root Extract* Palmarosa Oil* Parsley Seed Oil* Patchouli Oil* Pepper Oil, Black And White* Peppermint Oil* Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil* Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil* Pimenta Leaf Oil* Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch* Pineapple Juice Concentrate* Pipsissewa Leaf Extract* Plum Juice* Prune Juice and Concentrate* Raisin Juice Concentrate-------------------------------raisin juice concentrate?* Rose Absolute and Oil* Rosemary Oil* Rum* Rye Extract* Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage Oleoresin* Sandalwood Oil, Yellow* Snakeroot Oil* Spearmint Oil* Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil* Sugar Alcohols* Sugars* Tagetes Oil* Tea Leaf and Absolute* Thyme Oil, White and Red* Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin* Vanillin* Walnut Hull Extract* Water* Wheat Extract And Flour* Wild Cherry Bark Extract* Wine and Wine SherryImagine the possibilities! no more cloves, but vanilla cigs , spearmint, sage! even... raisin juice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svaals Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 QUOTE (ilikemyusername @ Aug 26 2009, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Imagine the possibilities! no more cloves, but vanilla cigs , spearmint, sage! even... raisin juice!They have them, they're called bidis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkhookah Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 QUOTE (jellywerker @ Aug 25 2009, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Twisted @ Aug 24 2009, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>They need to focus more of their energy on obesity, tbh. More and more kids are becoming fat.Cigarettes help you lose weight. That's enough evidence for many people to argue that cigarettes are healthy, sadly.What do you mean? They have zero calories and deter my appetite. They're just like water. And water is healthy right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szass_Tam Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 For all you clove smoking enthuists, Djarum (my favorite brand clove) sells their product from over seas and will ship it to you. I was informed by the Manager of Distributions, Kretek Industries that the ban is on the sale, not use, of flavored products. They also charge a measly 30.00 USD for 160 cloves Also, the ban goes into affect September 21st, but business probably won't be ordering anything after this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 QUOTE (Svaals @ Aug 26 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (ilikemyusername @ Aug 26 2009, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Imagine the possibilities! no more cloves, but vanilla cigs , spearmint, sage! even... raisin juice!They have them, they're called bidisI love bidis, I haven't seen them in a good 4yrs, damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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