delSol_si Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Well, I figure there are probably a lot of new people who skip reading the rules because it contains more than 10 sentences . Actually, there are probably people out there who have not memorized the entire rule page and could use a quick reference guide. Here is a summary of the rules I came up with for quick reference:Posting rules:1. Be civil.2. No illegal substances, when discussing the misconception, use NHT.3. Review section is for reviews only.4. Read subforum rules and follow. (ie. in member locations, only post your location, not questions or comments)5. Do not reference other hookah related forums.6. No NHT or related in names.7. Do not mention banned vendors.8. No trollingOther rules:1. No multiple accounts2. Vendors must follow vendor rules3. Feel free to PM any questions to moderators4. Check e-mail for notifications.5. All new members make at least one post within 24 hoursList of banned vendors:http://www.hookahforum.com/?showtopic=26167NHT specifics:http://www.hookahforum.com/?showtopic=8169Detailed rule page:http://www.hookahforum.com/?showtopic=30715Remember, this is just a summary of the rules for quick reference, NOT the official rule page so this is not grounds for arguing. The only reason I typed this out is for those people who need a quick reference. Please see the actual rule list for a detailed explanation of each rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share Posted August 28, 2009 If you guys don't like this/need this, just let me know and I will delete it, just thought it may help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 i vote to delete let them read the rules...there are some elaborations that need to be mentioned.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share Posted August 28, 2009 QUOTE (Arcane @ Aug 27 2009, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i vote to delete let them read the rules...there are some elaborations that need to be mentioned....Ya, thats what I am kinda leaning towards...added a poll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidglass Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I say keep it as a pocket reference, but the rules are good to read thru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I vote keep it. You should also keep a link to the rules in your message. Many people just don't think to read the rules, the way I see it this is just another way to try to get them to find/understand the guidelines. You already made a note of it that it isn't official and can't be used as grounds for arguing. So they may be inclined to click the link to the rules if they want to stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1024 Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 i voted delete, if they cant read the rules they dont deserve to be here....and for that matter if someone skips over 10 sentences of rules they are just as likely to skip over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 It should be deleted. There is a subforum just for rules, we shouldnt have to see a thread about the rules in the general section. If someone breaks the rules, thats their problem, they should have read them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I vote keep it, but it wont last long as a thread, you'll need to sticky it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amn_sinclair Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 i vote keep it but i think it would work pretty well to have it on the home page imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcbayern Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 If you cant take 10minutes to read the full rules... You need to get the fuck out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 ive had a link to the rules in my sig since i joined..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I like it Del...good job, that is a great idea...just hope people hop around to read it like they dont the ones in existence.what we need is something when you first sign up that forces you to read thempop up quiz to be able to post anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 just keep the rules where they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 sticking them wherever you want is good in my book, so long as I can walk a thin line... ...... ..... ...... its cool man..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Maybe make a quiz they have to take in order to create an account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 Well, I don't have the ability to sticky a topic, so can't do that, sorry. Looks like more people want to keep it, so I think I will go ahead and keep this alive until the "delete it" option takes over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColibriDon Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Not a bad idea. I like the idea of having a spark notes version of the rules. This could be useful to certain people. Keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampy6997 Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 I think it's a bit redundant. If a person can't read the rules, they deserve their 2 week ban....or perma-ban...depending on the rule(s) broken. *shrugs*...People will ignore the rules even if the rules stare them square in the face. if it's an "oops" then they'll learn from the ban. However, those who ignore the rules, ignore them everywhere, not just on here. I deal with it every day...people not being able to "read the rules" and they *know* the rules and still work on pushing the boundaries. With those people, it wouldn't matter if it rained brick and mortar, as they are going to break the rules if they wanted to in the first place.Putting the rules up on the board just makes it redundant, or all the more reason for someone to troll/break the rules....it's like antagonizing them...egging them on. Just my thoughts on it. I know I'm outnumbered by those who feel we should keep the rules posted, but honestly, it seems the point is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvtaco17 Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 The rules are posted, we don't need a cliff notes version, its redundant. IF someone is ignorant enough to not read whats there its is THEIR fault and no one else. We can't force people to read and comply with the forum rules, that's why we have mods and bans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 QUOTE (Vampy6997 @ Aug 28 2009, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think it's a bit redundant. If a person can't read the rules, they deserve their 2 week ban....or perma-ban...depending on the rule(s) broken. *shrugs*...People will ignore the rules even if the rules stare them square in the face. if it's an "oops" then they'll learn from the ban. However, those who ignore the rules, ignore them everywhere, not just on here. I deal with it every day...people not being able to "read the rules" and they *know* the rules and still work on pushing the boundaries. With those people, it wouldn't matter if it rained brick and mortar, as they are going to break the rules if they wanted to in the first place.Putting the rules up on the board just makes it redundant, or all the more reason for someone to troll/break the rules....it's like antagonizing them...egging them on. Just my thoughts on it. I know I'm outnumbered by those who feel we should keep the rules posted, but honestly, it seems the point is moot.I completely understand where you are coming from...but that isn't really the point of this. My intention of this was to help out those people who have already read the rules, but need a quick refresher or a quick reference every now and then so they don't accidentally break a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampy6997 Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 QUOTE (delSol_si @ Aug 29 2009, 02:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I completely understand where you are coming from...but that isn't really the point of this. My intention of this was to help out those people who have already read the rules, but need a quick refresher or a quick reference every now and then so they don't accidentally break a rule.If the people who are breaking the rules have been here, they'd know where to find the rules. I ran into the rules about 10x before figuring out how to maneuver the forum. Some people space cadet. It won't prevent 2 week bans, at all. If someone's going to post something, they aren't going to say...with every post...hold up, let me check the rules. People know the rules. They will either abide by them, or they won't. There are always mistakes, but again...it's a space cadet sort of instance. Mentioning a specific movie/song/whatnot in chat...not realizing the implications...mentioning a site that has stuff non-compliant to HF on there...the list is pretty endless to the goofups possible that these rules, in all their glory, cannot stop someone from stepping into their own hole in the ground for a 2 week ban. Those who have been here, know where the rules are. This thread would actually be harder to find than the rules themselves, for newbies. However...for people who have been here for a while, they should be able to, logically speaking (unless you are insulting intelligence, or maybe said persons just aren't intelligent?...idk), they'd be able to locate the rules just as easily. *shrugs*sorry for the run-on paragraph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 You can sticky a topic, Del_Sol. Around here, its listed as "pin topic".So we're supposed to pin a thread on a summary of the rules...next to the rules? Hmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 I think this is a great idea! but i also think we should have an even more condensed version for those who do not have time to read your rather long summary of the rules. how about pinning something like this along with it?Rules1. If you choose to not read and adhere to the rules for whatever reason... GTFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloppyJoe Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Might as well keep it now. There's still gonna be rule breakers regardless anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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