contristo Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) I bought two boxes of ch ql's upon the glowing reviews.so far, I'm pretty satisfied. it can be pretty great, never really harsh. but the only problem I find is a lack of taste, which always go hand-in-hand with a lack of smoke.I usually use golden quick lights, which surprisingly have produced a great amount of smoke and taste compared to the Ch ql's. considering the glowing reviews saying they're the best ql's on the market, I must be doing something wrong...I use a small phunnel... how many coals should I use? 2 is too light it seems, 3 is occasionally good and occasionally too weak, and 4 makes it a bit too harsh. the hole pattern are three rings going around, with four tiny holes in the middle. i use a toothpick and push it down softly until it reaches the bottom of the bowl so i can create air passages.any suggestions on anything? thanksto John specifically: I saw you used a pattern where you put three ql's on and poked a bunch of tiny holes in the spaces where the coals were but none elsewhere. is this really efficient or does it burn the tobacco too quickly? i'm not used to seeing such a lack of holes so i'm reluctant to try it that way Edited September 11, 2009 by Canon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 for a small tangiers phunnel i find two coals works perfect for al fakher. it will take a few minutes of puffing to get the bowl warm enough for thick clouds but it will not get harsh. you could start it with three coals then remove one once the bowl is hot enough. for nakhla you could use either two or three coals since it can take the heat. i just three circles of holes. lots of holes. works great.try out john's hole method too. i have done it before a few times and it has worked good. i just wasnt able to rotate the coals properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contristo Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share Posted September 9, 2009 this is weird... I am currently smoke Nakhla DA with FOUR ql's and it's hitting AMAZINGLY.i don't know, guess i'll have to keep trying out different methods. maybe the hole pattern is the main thing since I always pack it well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian_villager Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Naklah needs more heat than others so that makes perfect sense. But for AF or other stuff I'd say just two or three coals with holes only underneath the coals......for reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contristo Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 hmm I tried that method and it was great for 20 min but then fizzled out and required new coals. peak happened for like 5 min.... not sure what's wrong since golden ql's work great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I use johns ql's, and I also use goldens from time to time.they're different and once you learn to use them properly theyre both good but johns are better.Actually Once you learn them both you'll see that johns are way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (contristo @ Sep 9 2009, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I bought two boxes of ch ql's upon the glowing reviews.so far, I'm pretty satisfied. it can be pretty great, never really harsh. but the only problem I find is a lack of taste, which always go hand-in-hand with a lack of smoke.I usually use golden quick lights, which surprisingly have produced a great amount of smoke and taste compared to the Ch ql's. considering the glowing reviews saying they're the best ql's on the market, I must be doing something wrong...I use a small phunnel... how many coals should I use? 2 is too light it seems, 3 is occasionally good and occasionally too weak, and 4 makes it a bit too harsh. the hole pattern are three rings going around, with four tiny holes in the middle. i use a toothpick and push it down softly until it reaches the bottom of the bowl so i can create air passages.any suggestions on anything? thanksto John specifically: I saw you used a pattern where you put three ql's on and poked a bunch of tiny holes in the spaces where the coals were but none elsewhere. is this really efficient or does it burn the tobacco too quickly? i'm not used to seeing such a lack of holes so i'm reluctant to try it that wayhey bro i see your new even though you got 60 posts already but here are the forum rules..you used a NO-NO word http://www.hookahforum.com/index.php?act=boardrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no longer welcome Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 it's been a while since i used that 3 square pattern, and i can't recall why, i may have to try it again, however, i have been using the "tangiers" packing method with toothpick holes. it seems like you're getting it to work on your own with trial and error. just like with any coals, bowl or shisha you need to make it all work out yourself and it usually comes naturally, email me f you need anything but it sounds positive so far, thanksJohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contristo Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 QUOTE (NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD @ Sep 9 2009, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (contristo @ Sep 9 2009, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I bought two boxes of ch ql's upon the glowing reviews.so far, I'm pretty satisfied. it can be pretty great, never really harsh. but the only problem I find is a lack of taste, which always go hand-in-hand with a lack of smoke.I usually use golden quick lights, which surprisingly have produced a great amount of smoke and taste compared to the Ch ql's. considering the glowing reviews saying they're the best ql's on the market, I must be doing something wrong...I use a small phunnel... how many coals should I use? 2 is too light it seems, 3 is occasionally good and occasionally too weak, and 4 makes it a bit too harsh. the hole pattern are three rings going around, with four tiny holes in the middle. i use a toothpick and push it down softly until it reaches the bottom of the bowl so i can create air passages.any suggestions on anything? thanksto John specifically: I saw you used a pattern where you put three ql's on and poked a bunch of tiny holes in the spaces where the coals were but none elsewhere. is this really efficient or does it burn the tobacco too quickly? i'm not used to seeing such a lack of holes so i'm reluctant to try it that wayhey bro i see your new even though you got 60 posts already but here are the forum rules..you used a NO-NO word http://www.hookahforum.com/index.php?act=boardrulesif it's *edit* word then the rules are bordering on contradicting the first amendment. there are many different usages for that word, my intentions clearly being the manufacturer of a product, and to imply that I was using it in an illegal context is insulting. some rules cause more controversy and immorality than solutions. this is a public forum and, while I respect the rules, there is no need to insult someone's morality because of an ill association that would not even be assumed if the rules were not mentioned by the above poster.whatever though, thanks all for the responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cool Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Its not that you used it in an illegal context, its just that hookah can easily be associated with other things and any sort of chance of people misunderstanding what hookah is eradicated from the forums. When i joined I made the mistake of calling a part of the hookah a word that is associated with NHT and I was politely told to remove it. I have to admit these days, the rules have gotton stricter (if im not mistaken, someone got banned for the same thing i did whereas I was politely told to change the word which i didnt agree on but meh what can you do) and NoB just thought he would warn you so you dont get banned. If anything, thank him its better that then being banned!Personally, you havent really broken the rules, but its not up to me to make the decision and i hope the mods be kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb1021 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD @ Sep 9 2009, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey bro i see your new even though you got 60 posts already but here are the forum rules..you used a NO-NO word http://www.hookahforum.com/index.php?act=boardrulesnevermind. Edited September 11, 2009 by cb1021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 QUOTE (contristo @ Sep 10 2009, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD @ Sep 9 2009, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (contristo @ Sep 9 2009, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I bought two boxes of ch ql's upon the glowing reviews.so far, I'm pretty satisfied. it can be pretty great, never really harsh. but the only problem I find is a lack of taste, which always go hand-in-hand with a lack of smoke.I usually use golden quick lights, which surprisingly have produced a great amount of smoke and taste compared to the Ch ql's. considering the glowing reviews saying they're the best ql's on the market, I must be doing something wrong...I use a small phunnel... how many coals should I use? 2 is too light it seems, 3 is occasionally good and occasionally too weak, and 4 makes it a bit too harsh. the hole pattern are three rings going around, with four tiny holes in the middle. i use a toothpick and push it down softly until it reaches the bottom of the bowl so i can create air passages.any suggestions on anything? thanksto John specifically: I saw you used a pattern where you put three ql's on and poked a bunch of tiny holes in the spaces where the coals were but none elsewhere. is this really efficient or does it burn the tobacco too quickly? i'm not used to seeing such a lack of holes so i'm reluctant to try it that wayhey bro i see your new even though you got 60 posts already but here are the forum rules..you used a NO-NO word http://www.hookahforum.com/index.php?act=boardrulesif it's *edit* word then the rules are bordering on contradicting the first amendment. there are many different usages for that word, my intentions clearly being the manufacturer of a product, and to imply that I was using it in an illegal context is insulting. some rules cause more controversy and immorality than solutions. this is a public forum and, while I respect the rules, there is no need to insult someone's morality because of an ill association that would not even be assumed if the rules were not mentioned by the above poster.whatever though, thanks all for the responses.i never insulted you i was trying to help you..but i see now you will be on vacation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 QUOTE (contristo @ Sep 11 2009, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD @ Sep 9 2009, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (contristo @ Sep 9 2009, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I bought two boxes of ch ql's upon the glowing reviews.so far, I'm pretty satisfied. it can be pretty great, never really harsh. but the only problem I find is a lack of taste, which always go hand-in-hand with a lack of smoke.I usually use golden quick lights, which surprisingly have produced a great amount of smoke and taste compared to the Ch ql's. considering the glowing reviews saying they're the best ql's on the market, I must be doing something wrong...I use a small phunnel... how many coals should I use? 2 is too light it seems, 3 is occasionally good and occasionally too weak, and 4 makes it a bit too harsh. the hole pattern are three rings going around, with four tiny holes in the middle. i use a toothpick and push it down softly until it reaches the bottom of the bowl so i can create air passages.any suggestions on anything? thanksto John specifically: I saw you used a pattern where you put three ql's on and poked a bunch of tiny holes in the spaces where the coals were but none elsewhere. is this really efficient or does it burn the tobacco too quickly? i'm not used to seeing such a lack of holes so i'm reluctant to try it that wayhey bro i see your new even though you got 60 posts already but here are the forum rules..you used a NO-NO word http://www.hookahforum.com/index.php?act=boardrulesif it's this word then the rules are bordering on contradicting the first amendment. there are many different usages for that word, my intentions clearly being the manufacturer of a product, and to imply that I was using it in an illegal context is insulting. some rules cause more controversy and immorality than solutions. this is a public forum and, while I respect the rules, there is no need to insult someone's morality because of an ill association that would not even be assumed if the rules were not mentioned by the above poster.whatever though, thanks all for the responses.this is a privately owned forum, there are no amendments here.http://www.hookahforum.com/?showtopic=26167 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 i love it when people get all "1st amendment freedom of speech" over this shit. wake up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 LMFAO..thank you guys..im just trying to look out for him and he goes silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Ok, we'll do this again like we have to every few months.1) baiting mods or me is a bad Idea. JD is about to find out why.2) this is NOT a public forum and you do NOT have 1st amendment rights to free speech here. This is a privately owned, privately paid for, privately moderated forum. You are allowed to post here because the owners, admins, and mods LET you post here. You have no rights or freedom of speech. It's that simple. You agree to follow the rules when you sign up and you agree to do what the mods and admins tell you to do. If you don't like it, you don't have to stay, simple as that. Every forum on-line is like that, we are just more open about the fact.if this is a problem, then I suggest going someplace else now to avoid the humiliation of a ban thread later.I hope that answers everyone's questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeperhit Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 And he is forgetting, these words aren't against the rules because of how you use them (not all the time anyways) but because somebody can do a search on a web browser using an NHT phrase and this forum would pop up.Which is what we are all trying to avoid. Hookah being associated with these words/phrases/uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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