Who Thinks Phunnel=phail?

[ColibriDon]

Eh, I love the phunnel. When I moved, I just threw all of my egyptian bowls in the trash. I have none, I don't use them.

It's fine that you don't like it, in fact, it's good to see an opinion that's so different--kind of refreshing if I'm perfectly honest. Now the phunnel was designed to smoke Tangiers out of, it does that wonderfully--I only use it for that anymore. So, it can't fail there because the overwhelming amount of data on the subject says otherwise. For smoking other brands, I think it works fine--you clearly disagree.

Now, to say that the Phunnel equals fail is silly. They don't. Unfortunately, for you, this is a fact. Gah, I keep getting distracted. Anyway, the point is, you made this post to get replies...this is mine: I disagree. It does not fail, you don't fail. It's just not working for you and that's fine. Now, I can't imagine what kind of response you thought you would get when you made this post in a forum where everyone loves the Phunnel bowl.

[Tyler]

I love my med phunnel.

[Sariél]

Without flames or nasty allegations, I will try to answer the original poster's question.

From the looks of things, you, and you alone.

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[redjako]

Trollin.

The fact that phunnels hold the juices in make them superior.

I could be wrong, but I don't think he is trolling, he has expressed his OPINION about how much he doesn't like phunnels before, just not this big.

I don't think he's trolling...he just doesn't want to do the semi-longer setup of a phunnel, nor save the bottom part of the shisha

Egyptians taste like a phunnel for 15 minutes..while a phunnel tastes like a phunnel for 6 hours.,

[ilikemyusername]

I think the reason he doesn't like phunnels as much as a TRADITIONAL bowl is that JAY never bothered to make a REAL video.
Also, I use both types of bowls. I switch out regularly. I have a small phunnel for when I have people over and a nice traditional for when I'm smoking solo, not to say I only have 2 bowls but you know what I mean. I know the phunnel is overwhelmingly superior to a traditional bowl, just like you do. You know that alot more shisha goes into a bigger better designed bowl yet you don't smoke it all and call the leftovers a waste, thats just plain silly.
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[Capt. Morgan]

For the longest time I used a phunnel for tangiers and mod/egyptian bowl for other brands. Its gotten to the where I pretty much smoke nothing but tangiers so obviously my phunnel gets the most use. Had good smokes with both it and traditional bowls but I do have to say I honestly prefer phunnels over the other styles.

[TobiasKM]

I just know I've had some much, much better sessions since I switched to a Phunnel and Tangiers.

And I'm quite perplexed at the OP's unwillingness to admit he might somewhat be at fault. You can drive a normal car for 40 years on the road, and you'd still have to take some time and get used to a Ferrari.

[twoapplesplease]

Well I was hoping for more people who don't like phunnels atleast I found out there are a few who agree that they are not the best for all types of tobacco.

I did however know that I was soaking TNT in white gas and lighting it with a bazooka.

also notice you never see please help me pack my egyptian bowl threads.
and notice there are about 100 how too and please help me with my packing a phunnel threads.

It was easy to pack the phunnel bowl and use it especialy with like 5 how to threads with step by step picture instructions.
and what still so many fail.I however did not fail at it.I just prefere my egyptian bowl its that simple.

I also smoke nakhla 95% of the time.might have something to do with it.Best bowls I got with the phunnel were prolly romman I'm thinking.I was all out of unwashed tobacco and all I had was romman so I packed that med-phunnel full and smoked it all to black in 45 minn by myself.That time there was some clouds.but I don't really care for romman I was just trying to get my nic-fix.I chain nakhla for 1-2 hours almost strait when I smoke.I know its bad but I like smoking.

[ilikemyusername]

thats all fine and dandy but to say phunnels suck is wrong, its just a fact of life. Theres no doubt in my mind or seemingly anyone elses that its a vastly superior bowl.

[Genie]

The absolute best bowl on the market is the one that works best for you and that is all it comes down to.

I love my Phunnel, but I'm still learning how to use it. I've graduated from needing a mod in it, that was monumental for me. I'm learning what needs to be packed over the rim and what doesn't. I'm learning which coals I should never use on it and which ones work best with it. I still can't do a densely packed bowl using Nakhla with any success, but I'm not giving up. I didn't learn to cook overnight, I'm not going to master hookah bowls overnight either.

I have mastered a fantastic 45 minute to one hour smoke out of my Phunnel (came from Hookah-Shisha, they describe it as a large but I think it's more accurately a medium) but my goal is at least a two hour smoke.

I learned that I really need to work holes through the shisha with a toothpick and fluff the shisha so the heat gets all the way down. I learned that (for me, this is all what works for ME, I don't suggest it's what will work for every body) HD foil works better with AF while cheaper, thinner foil works better with Nakhla (at least on my phunnel).

Frankly, I think the learning process is a lot of fun.

It all boils down to the fact that I believe you should use what works best for you. My favorite bowls are still my wind cover combo bowls, but right now I'm learning my way around the Phunnel and when I pack it right, although the session is a mere 45 minutes, it's a fantastic 45 minutes. I can't complain about that at all.

[indian_villager]

Well I was hoping for more people who don't like phunnels atleast I found out there are a few who agree that they are not the best for all types of tobacco.

I did however know that I was soaking TNT in white gas and lighting it with a bazooka.

also notice you never see please help me pack my egyp

tian bowl threads.
and notice there are about 100 how too and please help me with my packing a phunnel threads.

It was easy to pack the phunnel bowl and use it especialy with like 5 how to threads with step by step picture instructions.
and what still so many fail.I however did not fail at it.I just prefere my egyptian bowl its that simple.

I also smoke nakhla 95% of the time.might have something to do with it.Best bowls I got with the phunnel were prolly romman I'm thinking.I was all out of unwashed tobacco and all I had was romman so I packed that med-phunnel full and smoked it all to black in 45 minn by myself.That time there was some clouds.but I don't really care for romman I was just trying to get my nic-fix.I chain nakhla for 1-2 hours almost strait when I smoke.I know its bad but I like smoking.

The reason for all the help threads is because people get mindfucked seeing the other help threads. I packed mine the first time with no issues. Oh and for naklah pack it in the phunnel really tight. It is a special case as far as the phunnel goes. Look at Mattarios's thread regarding it and I guarantee you that you will not go back to an egyptian once you see what the phunnel can do with naklah. Trust me I have done side by side tests.

[ngraz617]

Who said take the unburned shisha and mix it back up with the fresh? That'a crazy, I would never do that. Maybe keep it to the side for another time but never put it back with the fresh. I smoke a med. Tangiers alone and pack it accordingy, I could never get 6 hours out of a med. phunnel, no matter what I did. I think their is some exagerating going on here. Also the is no way an Egyptian compares to a phunnel bowl. If you can't figure out how to use it try a mod or a vortex bowl.

[NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD]

Who said take the unburned shisha and mix it back up with the fresh? That'a crazy, I would never do that. Maybe keep it to the side for another time but never put it back with the fresh. I smoke a med. Tangiers alone and pack it accordingy, I could never get 6 hours out of a med. phunnel, no matter what I did. I think their is some exagerating going on here. Also the is no way an Egyptian compares to a phunnel bowl. If you can't figure out how to use it try a mod or a vortex bowl.

its untouched so there is no problem mixing it back in..eiter way when you start a new bowl you will be mixing it with new shisha

[Genie]

Also the is no way an Egyptian compares to a phunnel bowl. If you can't figure out how to use it try a mod or a vortex bowl.

We shouldn't try to compare them. They're two completely different kinds of bowls. Each can produce an excellent session for a smoker with the right experience.

[714xDGAFxKING]

I ordered a med-tang phunnel bowl and packed it every way possible used every possible amount of coals.Oh sure It did smoke but Always unburned tobbaco at the bottom of the bowl.You need to use more coals for a phunnel bowl than if you were to smoke an egyptian bowl of equal size, but at least all the tobacco would be smoked.

Also its the only bowl to ever break on me in 14 years of smoking.Sure I droped on a wood floor from about a foot off the ground, but still you could almost throw an egyptian bowl at a wood floor and it still would't break.

I say stick with egyptian bowls FTW!

and don't gimmie that ''than you were'nt using it right'' crap because its not rocket science ok, I've been smoking shisha every day for over 14 years I think I might be able to figure out how to use a phunnel bowl.

Phunnel=phail in my book

+1 for going against the grain lol i love it!! hey speak your mind even people dont like it!! dont take what most these people say personal. they just hatre it when some one likes something different.

i been one of the lucky ones and have gotten the phunnel to smoke right and in my opinion it does smoke goood. i'll give my credit where credit is due. i also LOVE the vortex aswell. i love the egyptian aswell so i'm a well rounded player. i know ALOT of people that HATE everything about the phunnel. and then you come here and people formed a cult of phunnel lovers.

[mattarios2]

I think the reason he doesn't like phunnels as much as a TRADITIONAL bowl is that JAY never bothered to make a REAL video.
Also, I use both types of bowls. I switch out regularly. I have a small phunnel for when I have people over and a nice traditional for when I'm smoking solo, not to say I only have 2 bowls but you know what I mean. I know the phunnel is overwhelmingly superior to a traditional bowl, just like you do. You know that alot more shisha goes into a bigger better designed bowl yet you don't smoke it all and call the leftovers a waste, thats just plain silly.
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Haha, that was too funny.

Well I was hoping for more people who don't like phunnels atleast I found out there are a few who agree that they are not the best for all types of tobacco.

I did however know that I was soaking TNT in white gas and lighting it with a bazooka.

also notice you never see please help me pack my egyp

tian bowl threads.
and notice there are about 100 how too and please help me with my packing a phunnel threads.

It was easy to pack the phunnel bowl and use it especialy with like 5 how to threads with step by step picture instructions.
and what still so many fail.I however did not fail at it.I just prefere my egyptian bowl its that simple.

I also smoke nakhla 95% of the time.might have something to do with it.Best bowls I got with the phunnel were prolly romman I'm thinking.I was all out of unwashed tobacco and all I had was romman so I packed that med-phunnel full and smoked it all to black in 45 minn by myself.That time there was some clouds.but I don't really care for romman I was just trying to get my nic-fix.I chain nakhla for 1-2 hours almost strait when I smoke.I know its bad but I like smoking.

The reason for all the help threads is because people get mindfucked seeing the other help threads. I packed mine the first time with no issues. Oh and for naklah pack it in the phunnel really tight. It is a special case as far as the phunnel goes. Look at Mattarios's thread regarding it and I guarantee you that you will not go back to an egyptian once you see what the phunnel can do with naklah. Trust me I have done side by side tests.

thanks for the plug my mini phunnel god!

[indian_villager]

thanks for the plug my mini phunnel god!

I aim to please. And you did do good work. The main reason I recommend your thread is that you use a very similar method to mine and it is clearly illustrated and explained. I wanted to do a packing tutorial but I'd much rather do a video and I currently do not have the resources to make that happen.

[kvtaco17]

First off twoapples your a brave soul and I see your point. I can get anything to work in either type of bowl... HOWEVER I prefer some things in an Egyptian (Nakhla for example) BUT really everyone back off he his allowed to have an opinion. Yes his wording was poorly chosen BUT he is entitled to his opinion. Do I believe the phunnel is important? Yes I use it almost every day... but is it necessary? No... traditional bowls can smoke as well (though no marathon 3+ hour session... ) Also troapples if your willing to try it... pack your Nak tight and it will smoke better I promise... but again reserve judgement for yourself. Thank you and stop fighting were a community not 2 factions...

[Arcane]

First off twoapples your a brave soul and I see your point. I can get anything to work in either type of bowl... HOWEVER I prefer some things in an Egyptian (Nakhla for example) BUT really everyone back off he his allowed to have an opinion. Yes his wording was poorly chosen BUT he is entitled to his opinion. Do I believe the phunnel is important? Yes I use it almost every day... but is it necessary? No... traditional bowls can smoke as well (though no marathon 3+ hour session... ) Also troapples if your willing to try it... pack your Nak tight and it will smoke better I promise... but again reserve judgement for yourself. Thank you and stop fighting were a community not 2 factions...

warning: i'm drunk....so, this is pretty much brutally honest...

i agree with kvtaco in that i prefer to smoke my nakhla in an egyptian....but, its because i can smoke for 1hr - 1.5hrs and use up all the shisha. do i think the egyptian actually smokes better when packing each bowl optimally? nope....in all honesty, i think they're about even....its just that the phunnel will extend the life of certain tobaccos better than an egyptian.

if the OP has ever stated that the phunnel bowl doesn't smoke well...then that's just plain wrong. the phunnel smokes amazingly...ask anyone that's accustomed to smoking out of a phunnel...like i said before, if anyone can get a phunnel to smoke superbly, then a person who is having difficulty with the phunnel is not packing correctly. because the only major difference will be the packing technique and the coal management.

it's just like with packing Tangiers for the first time....you have to get into the mindset that you know nothing about packing Tangiers...its a different animal...the knowledge you've gained throughout the years with other shisha (or in this case, other bowls) shouldn't be used...gain a little humility, start from scratch and BE OPEN TO CHANGE! Edited September 19, 2009 by Arcane

[redjako]

Yeah its kinda ran its course...

Phunnels > Egyptians for flavor and longevity.

My youtube video's have 4-6 or so 6+ hour sessions (and I got 5 more on my cpu I'm too lazy to edit).

Not an exaggeration, its more the fact that a phunnel will tend to outlast you.


Also, just because you do something for 14 years does not mean your packing right..could be doing it all wrong for 14 years.

[mushrat]

NOW HEAR THIS!

It appears that many folks have forgotten rule #1. You can disagree with someone, but you had better do it NICELY. 2apples is allowed to have his opinion. He may have expressed it strongly, but he is permitted to express an opinion, popular or otherwise, without fear of being flamed, insulted, or harrassed.

Vacations will be forthcoming to reinforce this lesson and to give some of you the time to re-aquaint yourselves with the rules of conduct around here.

So lets try this again. NICELY. or else.

[JOE]

bummer for those who got sour...
but IMO it comes down to personal preference, i enjoy an egyptian bowl session every once in a while with some nak. but i still love my phunnel!

[StreetBob]

First off twoapples your a brave soul and I see your point. I can get anything to work in either type of bowl... HOWEVER I prefer some things in an Egyptian (Nakhla for example) BUT really everyone back off he his allowed to have an opinion. Yes his wording was poorly chosen BUT he is entitled to his opinion. Do I believe the phunnel is important? Yes I use it almost every day... but is it necessary? No... traditional bowls can smoke as well (though no marathon 3+ hour session... ) Also troapples if your willing to try it... pack your Nak tight and it will smoke better I promise... but again reserve judgement for yourself. Thank you and stop fighting were a community not 2 factions...

warning: i'm drunk....so, this is pretty much brutally honest...

i agree with kvtaco in that i prefer to smoke my nakhla in an egyptian....but, its because i can smoke for 1hr - 1.5hrs and use up all the shisha. do i think the egyptian actually smokes better when packing each bowl optimally? nope....in all honesty, i think they're about even....its just that the phunnel will extend the life of certain tobaccos better than an egyptian.

if the OP has ever stated that the phunnel bowl doesn't smoke well...then that's just plain wrong. the phunnel smokes amazingly...ask anyone that's accustomed to smoking out of a phunnel...like i said before, if anyone can get a phunnel to smoke superbly, then a person who is having difficulty with the phunnel is not packing correctly. because the only major difference will be the packing technique and the coal management.

it's just like with packing Tangiers for the first time....you have to get into the mindset that you know nothing about packing Tangiers...its a different animal...the knowledge you've gained throughout the years with other shisha (or in this case, other bowls) shouldn't be used...gain a little humility, start from scratch and BE OPEN TO CHANGE!

I wouldn't have agreed with you Arcane prior to your Tang/Phunnel coaching you provided me, and BTW Thank You for that. But now I couldn't agree more, my Hookah experiences are sooo much better because of Tang/Phunnel.

[twoapplesplease]

I'm sorry to hear that maybee a few warnings or short suspensions were handed out.This was in no way my intentions.
I will only now let my oppinions about phunnel bowls be known in a chat or when I see a poor soul who thinks its his fault he can't get it to smoke good.

hey no hard feelings guys I'm willing to let it go if you are.Peace and enjoy what you like