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Washable
ULtra flexable
Suede or velvet type cover
at least 72" long (not including handle)
3/8" to 1/2" inner diameter throughout ( one beef I have about my mya wide; while the hose is wider, the mouthpiece is actually narrower than a standard mya!)
shorter than standard end (the one that attaches yo the hookah), so it doesn't stick out as far, unbalancing the hookah.
Removable mouthpiece with metal tip, with optional ebony cobra tip.
No cheesey lucite/acrylic stuff or what look to be tennis sweatbands or hair scrunchies as decorations.
built in bottle opener.
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Are there any engineers in the house? So, two things that everyone seems to like: Large diameter and length. How do you optimize this?

So if a hose is longer, it will take more energy to pull the smoke through it, right? So a longer hose is harder to pull than a shorter one (all other things equal), I assume. But is that correct? Has anyone used a longer hose than a shorter one and noticed a difference in the ease of pulling?

As for diameter: If the pipe itself only has 1/8-1/4 inch pipe in it (or the bowl for that matter) and the nozzle to connect the hose to the pipe is only 1/8th (which I think is pretty standard) does a wider diameter matter? Is airflow only as easy as to pull as the narrowest part of the pipe (from bowl to mouth piece)? Or perhaps, having a larger diameter is better for longer hoses and will make the hose easier to pull air through regardless of the pipe?

Anyways, this is beyond my education but it would be interesting to see if there is a sweet spot combination between length and diameter.
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QUOTE (Hobocans @ Sep 29 2009, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are there any engineers in the house? So, two things that everyone seems to like: Large diameter and length. How do you optimize this?

So if a hose is longer, it will take more energy to pull the smoke through it, right? So a longer hose is harder to pull than a shorter one (all other things equal), I assume. But is that correct? Has anyone used a longer hose than a shorter one and noticed a difference in the ease of pulling?

As for diameter: If the pipe itself only has 1/8-1/4 inch pipe in it (or the bowl for that matter) and the nozzle to connect the hose to the pipe is only 1/8th (which I think is pretty standard) does a wider diameter matter? Is airflow only as easy as to pull as the narrowest part of the pipe (from bowl to mouth piece)? Or perhaps, having a larger diameter is better for longer hoses and will make the hose easier to pull air through regardless of the pipe?

Anyways, this is beyond my education but it would be interesting to see if there is a sweet spot combination between length and diameter.


because the hookah is an open ended system, the hose length doesnt have much effect on it.

the different diameters of the hookah do effect it, but the hose diameter being bigger does help the airflow a lot.

my suggestion: find a diy (i think delSol posted his earlier) and make some hoses with different diameters and length and try it out yourself. if you follow delSol's guide it would be very easy to make a ton of different hoses, cheaply, and very easy to swap out the diameters/lengths with the same handle/connector parts.
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My hose thread is in my sig. I like long handles personally, they just look BA in my opinion. I don't really know if it affects the performance or not. Length doesn't really matter to me too much. I am sending out some of my hoses to a few people this week (was supposed to have done it monday but got too busy) so we will see how the public likes them... Honestly, if you are wanting to test this theory, I would suggest using the DIY method, but jsut don't wrap them in yarn like i did, it takes forever and is just for looks anyway. Only bad part is they ghost like a bitch. BUT, they are washable smile.gif I don't know if I have a dream hose, but out of the ones I have made, I likethis one the most:
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QUOTE (Hobocans @ Sep 29 2009, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are there any engineers in the house? So, two things that everyone seems to like: Large diameter and length. How do you optimize this?

So if a hose is longer, it will take more energy to pull the smoke through it, right? So a longer hose is harder to pull than a shorter one (all other things equal), I assume. But is that correct? Has anyone used a longer hose than a shorter one and noticed a difference in the ease of pulling?

As for diameter: If the pipe itself only has 1/8-1/4 inch pipe in it (or the bowl for that matter) and the nozzle to connect the hose to the pipe is only 1/8th (which I think is pretty standard) does a wider diameter matter? Is airflow only as easy as to pull as the narrowest part of the pipe (from bowl to mouth piece)? Or perhaps, having a larger diameter is better for longer hoses and will make the hose easier to pull air through regardless of the pipe?

Anyways, this is beyond my education but it would be interesting to see if there is a sweet spot combination between length and diameter.


Without getting much into fluid dynamics and equations, a longer hose will create more resistance to flow (pressure drop) than a shorter one and a 1/4" restriction in a 1/2" diameter pipe will result in more flow than just a 1/4" pipe.
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QUOTE (foibled again @ Oct 1 2009, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Hobocans @ Sep 29 2009, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are there any engineers in the house? So, two things that everyone seems to like: Large diameter and length. How do you optimize this?

So if a hose is longer, it will take more energy to pull the smoke through it, right? So a longer hose is harder to pull than a shorter one (all other things equal), I assume. But is that correct? Has anyone used a longer hose than a shorter one and noticed a difference in the ease of pulling?

As for diameter: If the pipe itself only has 1/8-1/4 inch pipe in it (or the bowl for that matter) and the nozzle to connect the hose to the pipe is only 1/8th (which I think is pretty standard) does a wider diameter matter? Is airflow only as easy as to pull as the narrowest part of the pipe (from bowl to mouth piece)? Or perhaps, having a larger diameter is better for longer hoses and will make the hose easier to pull air through regardless of the pipe?

Anyways, this is beyond my education but it would be interesting to see if there is a sweet spot combination between length and diameter.


Without getting much into fluid dynamics and equations, a longer hose will create more resistance to flow (pressure drop) than a shorter one and a 1/4" restriction in a 1/2" diameter pipe will result in more flow than just a 1/4" pipe.



yes but from experience its not that much difference.
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QUOTE (foibled again @ Oct 1 2009, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Hobocans @ Sep 29 2009, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are there any engineers in the house? So, two things that everyone seems to like: Large diameter and length. How do you optimize this?

So if a hose is longer, it will take more energy to pull the smoke through it, right? So a longer hose is harder to pull than a shorter one (all other things equal), I assume. But is that correct? Has anyone used a longer hose than a shorter one and noticed a difference in the ease of pulling?

As for diameter: If the pipe itself only has 1/8-1/4 inch pipe in it (or the bowl for that matter) and the nozzle to connect the hose to the pipe is only 1/8th (which I think is pretty standard) does a wider diameter matter? Is airflow only as easy as to pull as the narrowest part of the pipe (from bowl to mouth piece)? Or perhaps, having a larger diameter is better for longer hoses and will make the hose easier to pull air through regardless of the pipe?

Anyways, this is beyond my education but it would be interesting to see if there is a sweet spot combination between length and diameter.


Without getting much into fluid dynamics and equations, a longer hose will create more resistance to flow (pressure drop) than a shorter one and a 1/4" restriction in a 1/2" diameter pipe will result in more flow than just a 1/4" pipe.

Duh, and the fact that all the hoses are like ribbed on the inside add more resistance. But the fact of the matter is that I'd rather not be restricted within two feet of my hookah. Also with the argument of the diameter that also brings in fluid expansion into play. Fun eh?
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