Crys Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 so I recently got a phunnel (no not tangiers, its a Havana...I found it locally for much cheaper than anywhere online)and I've tried to smoke my AF in a couple of times with varying styles packing and hole patterns but I still haven't gotten the clouds/flavor I was expecting from a phunnel setupI searched the forum and found out to sprinkle the AF with no packing so I understand that but I still am not quite getting what i shouldI think its in my hole pattern (I tried 3 concentric rings of holes around the middle, but the foil got sucked down, so I put a hole in the middle the next time)......what do ya'll recommend for a bowl of AF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RingsMaster Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 the havanna bowls dont hold heat at all try putting on more heat, thats what i had to do to get decent clouds then eventually i tossed it, wasted so much coals and shisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian_villager Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Just as described...more fire! And those havana bowls are phukin huge. 250g in like two bowls! Have fun with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crys Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 I'm still not sure if its the fire thoughI mean I had about 4 coals (natural bulk Al-Abdo I think) and it still wasn't white out clouds like I can get with AF in an egyptian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 why not just stick to an egyptian then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have no experience with a havana bowl, but what I do with my AF in a phunnel is this;sprinkle the shisha into the bowl until its about 1/4th inch above the rimput foil over the shisha and gently turn the bowl upsidedown with the foil touching the chichatamp it down on the counter cramming all the shisha in there (remember, its sprinked in)turn it right side up and fold foil down over bowlpoke small holes with a neele, lots of them, stay more around the edges than the middlesmoke it and get ready for foggy night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evlpengwyn Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have a havana phunnel and a tangiers phunnel, when I smoke AF out of either of them I generally poke larger holes around the outside of the bowl that go all the way through the shisha to the bottom of the bowl, then smaller holes just through the foil poked randomly everywhere else, and 1-2 larger holes right in the middle. Seems to give good flavor and smoke for me, but really you just need to experiment and try different packing and heat management methods until you figure out what works for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsboy Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 AF in a medium phunnel never worked as well as the egyptian bowl. I would love to get it to work well when my friends come over for a longer smoke session without the need to repack the bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoapplesplease Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 QUOTE (Arcane @ Oct 2 2009, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why not just stick to an egyptian then?+1 Egyptian FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cool Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Its the coals you are using, try this, if it works I will explain why!Put two logs side by side at the top, and another two side by side at the bottom. So if you are lookin at the bowl from above, at the top there should be two logs vertically side by side like || and at the bottom the same, If Im not making sense let me know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 QUOTE (Crys @ Oct 2 2009, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so I recently got a phunnel (no not tangiers, its a Havana...I found it locally for much cheaper than anywhere online)and I've tried to smoke my AF in a couple of times with varying styles packing and hole patterns but I still haven't gotten the clouds/flavor I was expecting from a phunnel setupI searched the forum and found out to sprinkle the AF with no packing so I understand that but I still am not quite getting what i shouldI think its in my hole pattern (I tried 3 concentric rings of holes around the middle, but the foil got sucked down, so I put a hole in the middle the next time)......what do ya'll recommend for a bowl of AF?i never pack them differently for different tobaccoes. The physics behind a phunnel doesn't change just because there is a different tobacco. I assure you the bowl doesn't know the difference. Pack it in full, I either use a few rings of holes around the tobacco and a bunch of holes in the center, or I just make the same hole pattern for a regular bowl with a few extra in the middle. The only difference in smoking AF vs. Tangiers will be the amount of heat needed. AF will always take more heat to smoke right than Tangiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crys Posted October 3, 2009 Author Share Posted October 3, 2009 thanks for all the suggestions...over the next week or so I'll try all these different methods out and see what works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cool Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Make sure you report back, there is nothing worse then when you are searching the forum for a problem and the thread with the same problem as the on you are having doesnt have any results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crys Posted October 3, 2009 Author Share Posted October 3, 2009 QUOTE (Arcane @ Oct 2 2009, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why not just stick to an egyptian then?I usually do, but I only have small egyptian heads, and i'd like to have longer sessions of Al Fakher (it being my favorite tobacco currently) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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