Should I Get Another Phunnel?

[twoapplesplease]

Yes I do like to smoke tangiers on occasions I'm very fond of the kashmir apple.
I also prefere it smoked in egyptian style bowls over the phunnel bowl but it does make a mess.

yes lunch box try that method.Maybee just a little less tobacco as your bowl is not that shallow.

personaly I think holding in the juices keeps the tobacco from smoking properly,But keep in mind I like the taste of tobacco

[king_lunchb0x]

Yes I do like to smoke tangiers on occasions I'm very fond of the kashmir apple.
I also prefere it smoked in egyptian style bowls over the phunnel bowl but it does make a mess.

yes lunch box try that method.Maybee just a little less tobacco as your bowl is not that shallow.

personaly I think holding in the juices keeps the tobacco from smoking properly,But keep in mind I like the taste of tobacco

hey twoapples, in that how to thread u mention a windcover... is that essential in smoking hookah, i dont smoke outside, would that make any difference?

[twoapplesplease]

Its a good thing to have to help with heat mangment even indoors.
Depending on you coals and bowl you may not need one.
I personaly prefere whats known as a foil crown over the traditional windcovers for small bowls.
larger bowls I'll use a wind cover.

I need to find a pic of a "foil crown" not many people use them because they look like crap but the do work well.

[mitchard]

What does a scalli mod do exactly?

thank you for asking i wondered the samething, but i didnt feel right to ask yet, 5 questions in one day is just being a pain in the ass

Helps to reduce the amount of shisha used in a phunnel. Also, it helps keep the foil from going over the phunnel hole and it helps to redirect airflow through the shisha for more flavor, though I have never noticed a difference.

Excuse the mspaint masterpiece.

[antouwan]

a scalli mod is just a piece of glass or an aluminum tealight holder that's modded to fit over the main hole in the phunnel. the edges of the 'bottom' rim of the mod are either cut with a few small cuts or bent to allow airflow from the bottom of the bowl into the main hole of the phunnel then into your hookah. advocates of the scalli mod say that it forces the air all the way through the tobacco to the bottom of the bowl, and that it saves on tobacco. i've used the mod before and all i can say is that it will save on tobacco...i didn't notice any change in flavor or smoke density.

personally, i don't use the scalli mod because i think eric did a hell of a job making the phunnel and personally, i didn't notice a difference with the mod.

a pic would help of the foil crown. it's esentially just a large piece of foil wrapped around the exterior of the head and then pinched at the top - above the bowl - to acheive your desired level of heat retention. mostly open to allow more cooler air in or more closed to use the mostly super heated air. this is good for making the dying coals on your head last just a little bit longer if you want to smoke some more but not long enough to warrant lighting up another round of coals

[king_lunchb0x]

i see, pretty good idea imo, but there pretty pricey for just 1 piece that people seem t break alot, i think ill use the money for just a small phunnel.for now at least...

[king_lunchb0x]

could you elaborate more on "erics phunnel" or maybe have a link to it, i am new here so i dont know who eric is

[Hookie The Hookah]

Yes I do like to smoke tangiers on occasions I'm very fond of the kashmir apple.
I also prefere it smoked in egyptian style bowls over the phunnel bowl but it does make a mess.

yes lunch box try that method.Maybee just a little less tobacco as your bowl is not that shallow.

personaly I think holding in the juices keeps the tobacco from smoking properly,But keep in mind I like the taste of tobacco

I'd love to see your packing method there if that's at all possible...

[Hookie The Hookah]

could you elaborate more on "erics phunnel" or maybe have a link to it, i am new here so i dont know who eric is

Eric is the owner of Tangiers. He posts here as Sonthert.

[twoapplesplease]

Yea thats a pretty good discription of a foil crown. If you make one make it so that it rises about 3 inches above the rim.Also make it "built to last" for many uses.

[twoapplesplease]

Yes I do like to smoke tangiers on occasions I'm very fond of the kashmir apple.
I also prefere it smoked in egyptian style bowls over the phunnel bowl but it does make a mess.

yes lunch box try that method.Maybee just a little less tobacco as your bowl is not that shallow.

personaly I think holding in the juices keeps the tobacco from smoking properly,But keep in mind I like the taste of tobacco

I'd love to see your packing method there if that's at all possible...

In an egyptian I pack it just like I pack nakhla(I pack the shit outta it)I use an extreamly aggresive hole poking method(super ass large see threw holes)and large ass holes

[antouwan]

could you elaborate more on "erics phunnel" or maybe have a link to it, i am new here so i dont know who eric is

yeah as previously mentioned eric is the owner/operator of tangiers. he was the one who created the phunnel design. i only buy his phunnels because i support giving money, or paying, to the original creator of the idea. he worked and designed the damn thing a very certain way because he invested time in finding out what works best: now chinese companies (and others like havana et al) come in to make money off of a product they never invested time into creating - not to mention chinese phunnels are simply made of inferior materials.

and about the breakage: i was holding my 36" KM chiller by the base, the phunnel came loose and took a plummet from the top of the hookah (probably about 7.5 feet in the air and landed straight on a piece of flagstone (i was outside). i assumed the thing a gonner, when i unwrapped the foil to look at the damage i didn't see a damn thing, not a break, not a chip, not a fucking hairline crack. i'm not saying go out of your way and run the bowl over with your car and test how much abuse they can take, but they are much more durable than any other head i've come across, (i've broken several standard clay and ceramic bowls and the phunnels are a hell of a lot better in smoking performance, and durability)

[twoapplesplease]

I'd like to add my tang phunnel droped from my hand when I was taking it out of my carring case 1 foot from the floor witch was a wood floor and it broke beyond repair.
Only bowl to break on me in 14 years.
And I've droped my clay egyptians many times.
Its just a matter of luck I guess.

But notice how many I broke my phunnel threads there have been in the past.

then notice how few I broke my egyptian clay bowl threads there is.

from a design perspective the phunnel bowl has more week spots in its form than an egyptian bowl.I mean structure like if you designing a bridge, tottaly not based on its ability to smoke.

[Scoop]

I'd like to add my tang phunnel droped from my hand when I was taking it out of my carring case 1 foot from the floor witch was a wood floor and it broke beyond repair.
Only bowl to break on me in 14 years.
And I've droped my clay egyptians many times.
Its just a matter of luck I guess.

But notice how many I broke my phunnel threads there have been in the past.

then notice how few I broke my egyptian clay bowl threads there is.

from a design perspective the phunnel bowl has more week spots in its form than an egyptian bowl.I mean structure like if you designing a bridge, tottaly not based on its ability to smoke.

my god man. all you do is bash on tangiers bowl. we got it...you dont like it. every post of yours is just attacking the phunnel.

from a design perspective its weaker? those egyptian bowls are such pieces of crap. ive had one CRUMBLE apart after washing it.

just because you still cannot get the phunnel to hit right because of user error doesn't make it a bad bowl.

also to OP, buy a small tangiers phunnel. dont buy havana chinese crap. get the real one.

[antouwan]

I'd like to add my tang phunnel droped from my hand when I was taking it out of my carring case 1 foot from the floor witch was a wood floor and it broke beyond repair.
Only bowl to break on me in 14 years.
And I've droped my clay egyptians many times.
Its just a matter of luck I guess.

But notice how many I broke my phunnel threads there have been in the past.

then notice how few I broke my egyptian clay bowl threads there is.

from a design perspective the phunnel bowl has more week spots in its form than an egyptian bowl.I mean structure like if you designing a bridge, tottaly not based on its ability to smoke.

well in regards to the i broke my phunnel threads vs i broke an egyptian thread: 1. phunnels are not as common as an everyday egyptian, i don't think 2. people value the phunnels more here, because of how they smoke, but also because of the pricey $15 price tag they carry as well...just my 2¢ Edited October 9, 2009 by antouwan

[mitchard]

I'd like to add my tang phunnel droped from my hand when I was taking it out of my carring case 1 foot from the floor witch was a wood floor and it broke beyond repair.
Only bowl to break on me in 14 years.
And I've droped my clay egyptians many times.
Its just a matter of luck I guess.

But notice how many I broke my phunnel threads there have been in the past.

then notice how few I broke my egyptian clay bowl threads there is.

from a design perspective the phunnel bowl has more week spots in its form than an egyptian bowl.I mean structure like if you designing a bridge, tottaly not based on its ability to smoke.

my god man. all you do is bash on tangiers bowl. we got it...you dont like it. every post of yours is just attacking the phunnel.

from a design perspective its weaker? those egyptian bowls are such pieces of crap. ive had one CRUMBLE apart after washing it.

People are saying they are strong, so he can express negative opinions on it if he has an experience that states otherwise.

I side with the tangiers phunnel being stronger than most of the cheap egyptian bowls I have owned. I too have had one crumble on me while gently washing it.

People are usually more pissed when the break a phunnel because of the price, and that fact that many of us smoke a lot of tangiers. Without a phunnel its not the same. If my normal bowl breaks, I can get a new one from most online vendors for around 3 bucks. The phunnel is a little more expensive than that.

[twoapplesplease]

my god man. all you do is bash on tangiers bowl. we got it...you dont like it. every post of yours is just attacking the phunnel.

I'm just offering my opinion about phunnel bowls not bashing.Thats my personal experiance.

from a design perspective its weaker? those egyptian bowls are such pieces of crap. ive had one CRUMBLE apart after washing it.

Yes there are low quality egyption bowls, but there are also high quality stoneware clay egyptian bowls

just because you still cannot get the phunnel to hit right because of user error doesn't make it a bad bowl.

I had no problems in getting the phunnel to work the way its supposed too(its not a bad bowl better than alot of bowls just not the best in my experiance)
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Also there was a thread recently a poll on whats the best bowl and a lot of people that swear by a phunnel bowl clearlly stated that egyptian CLAY bowls are the best. Edited October 9, 2009 by twoapplesplease

[NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD]

honestly there isnt just 1 and only be all end all bowl..some shishas work better in different bowls..the only shishas i smoked so far are al fakher,nakhla,tangiers,starbuzz and out of those starbuzz and al fakher will only smoke right for me if i use a Egyptian bowl and the other two smoke best in my phunnel..so..take it for what its worth and i really think the true hookah smoker doesnt limit himself to 1 bowl because of all the different shishas and applications..remember saying theres only 1 end all be all of bowls is like saying there is only 1 good brand of hookahs and everything else is garabge..which isnt true

[joytron]

That poll clearly stated aside from the phunnel

[twoapplesplease]

honestly there isnt just 1 and only be all end all bowl..some shishas work better in different bowls..the only shishas i smoked so far are al fakher,nakhla,tangiers,starbuzz and out of those starbuzz and al fakher will only smoke right for me if i use a Egyptian bowl and the other two smoke best in my phunnel..so..take it for what its worth and i really think the true hookah smoker doesnt limit himself to 1 bowl because of all the different shishas and applications..remember saying theres only 1 end all be all of bowls is like saying there is only 1 good brand of hookahs and everything else is garabge..which isnt true

+1

That poll clearly stated aside from the phunnel

I was pretty sure there was another thread posted by the same guy that included phunnel bowls, but I'm haveing trouble finding it.I could be wrong, but I'm looking deeper

[twoapplesplease]

Yes I think it was the thread that was'' beside's the phunnel whats the best bowl''
Its just some people stated that egyptian bowls or other bowls were just as good or equal to a phunnel bowl.Because The thread name poll assumes that the phunnel reigns supreme to all other bowls for everyone.

[joytron]

Yes I think it was the thread that was'' beside's the phunnel whats the best bowl''
Its just some people stated that egyptian bowls or other bowls were just as good or equal to a phunnel bowl.Because The thread name poll assumes that the phunnel reigns supreme to all other bowls for everyone.

Yeah I actually think it is important to learn how to smoke with an egyptian bowl. I found they work quite well but get juices all over my hookah. Personally if i did not have a mini phunnel I would use an egyptian for a majority of the time.

[Arcane]

i read most of the posts, but skimmed through a few posts...here's my opinion.

1. you can never have too many bowls.
-i have 4 phunnels and 12 egyptians. bowls break, wear down, etc, etc.

2. also helps with changing flavors
-i load 2-4 bowls and switch them out after an hour or so of smoking a bowl.

3. makes your collection look cooooool.
-most people like to flex their e-peen.

[Arcane]

honestly there isnt just 1 and only be all end all bowl..some shishas work better in different bowls..the only shishas i smoked so far are al fakher,nakhla,tangiers,starbuzz and out of those starbuzz and al fakher will only smoke right for me if i use a Egyptian bowl and the other two smoke best in my phunnel..so..take it for what its worth and i really think the true hookah smoker doesnt limit himself to 1 bowl because of all the different shishas and applications..remember saying theres only 1 end all be all of bowls is like saying there is only 1 good brand of hookahs and everything else is garabge..which isnt true

i'll disagree with you here...an experienced and committed hookah smoker can get by with one bowl and make it work with all tobaccos. that person just has to take the time to learn and master his technique. i know there are some members here that only use their phunnels...so, in actuality, that is their be all end all bowl.

[Zinite]

honestly there isnt just 1 and only be all end all bowl..some shishas work better in different bowls..the only shishas i smoked so far are al fakher,nakhla,tangiers,starbuzz and out of those starbuzz and al fakher will only smoke right for me if i use a Egyptian bowl and the other two smoke best in my phunnel..so..take it for what its worth and i really think the true hookah smoker doesnt limit himself to 1 bowl because of all the different shishas and applications..remember saying theres only 1 end all be all of bowls is like saying there is only 1 good brand of hookahs and everything else is garabge..which isnt true

i'll disagree with you here...an experienced and committed hookah smoker can get by with one bowl and make it work with all tobaccos. that person just has to take the time to learn and master his technique. i know there are some members here that only use their phunnels...so, in actuality, that is their be all end all bowl.

Exactly. I've been on this forum for about a year, and from what I've read and experimented with, I can get a small Tangiers Phunnel filled with ANY brand of tobacco going for at least 2 hours. If it's Tang OG, it'll go about 3. To me, that alone is worth the price of the phunnel bowl. With my medium, a bowl of Tang OG will last EASILY 5 hours if you know how to work the coals. My wide/shallow Egyptian bowl will last 45 minutes max with Tangiers OG. I don't know about you guys, but I rarely smoke for just 45 minutes. If I'm setting up my hookah, it's going to be for hours of relaxation, not a quick puff-and-go.