Chiefin Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Twoapplesplease - have you tried using a tangiers superchief? The design 'feels' more like a traditional egyptian bowl. I feel like it's a pretty fail safe bowl for most shishas not tangiers. I know most people here are on a huge Nakhla streak at the moment....but some of the cloudiest bowls I've had are AF mint out of a superchief. Nice change from Tangiers OG from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (Arcane @ Oct 9 2009, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD @ Oct 9 2009, 05:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>honestly there isnt just 1 and only be all end all bowl..some shishas work better in different bowls..the only shishas i smoked so far are al fakher,nakhla,tangiers,starbuzz and out of those starbuzz and al fakher will only smoke right for me if i use a Egyptian bowl and the other two smoke best in my phunnel..so..take it for what its worth and i really think the true hookah smoker doesnt limit himself to 1 bowl because of all the different shishas and applications..remember saying theres only 1 end all be all of bowls is like saying there is only 1 good brand of hookahs and everything else is garabge..which isnt truei'll disagree with you here...an experienced and committed hookah smoker can get by with one bowl and make it work with all tobaccos. that person just has to take the time to learn and master his technique. i know there are some members here that only use their phunnels...so, in actuality, that is their be all end all bowl.the phunnel is my be all end all bowl EXCEPT for my male lebanese bowls. I have a narg from the home country and my beloved phunnels won't fit. i talked to eric about making male phunnels but he said that the US market is so swamped with egyptians it really wouldn't be worth his while - i can't blame him - not to mention he would have to at least slightly modify his manufacture technique. it's all good though, my leb bowls are great, and ever since i started cutting the cocos in half, the heat management has been superb on the smaller bowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoapplesplease Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Id like to try a tangiers super chief.But tangiers bowls arent made of stoneware clay like a good egyptian.Really since All tobacco's can be smoked perfectly threw an egyptian bowl less juice dripping down your stem.Why the need for a bowl that works good for just some tobacco's Not to mention the cost factor of a phunnel bowl.The longevity of phunnel bowls is due to the amount of tobacco used.My large egyptian holds 50g and smokes 2+ hours easy.And uses less coals and is easier to mang heat.The smoking duration time is also heavily affectid by how you smoke.to ansewer the question Should you get anouther Phunnel?I say Only if it worked better for you than your egyptian bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchard Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (twoapplesplease @ Oct 9 2009, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Id like to try a tangiers super chief.But tangiers bowls arent made of stoneware clay like a good egyptian.Really since All tobacco's can be smoked perfectly threw an egyptian bowl less juice dripping down your stem.Why the need for a bowl that works good for just some tobacco's Not to mention the cost factor of a phunnel bowl.The longevity of phunnel bowls is due to the amount of tobacco used.My large egyptian holds 50g and smokes 2+ hours easy.And uses less coals and is easier to mang heat.The smoking duration time is also heavily affectid by how you smoke.to ansewer the question Should you get anouther Phunnel?I say Only if it worked better for you than your egyptian bowl.From what I have gathered, the Tangiers bowls are made of a higher quality material than most standard clay bowls. While the longevity of the phunnels can be attributed to how much tobacco is used, it is also helped by not losing juice down the stem. That is something that normal bowls cannot do with wetter tobacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (mitchard @ Oct 9 2009, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (twoapplesplease @ Oct 9 2009, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Id like to try a tangiers super chief.But tangiers bowls arent made of stoneware clay like a good egyptian.Really since All tobacco's can be smoked perfectly threw an egyptian bowl less juice dripping down your stem.Why the need for a bowl that works good for just some tobacco's Not to mention the cost factor of a phunnel bowl.The longevity of phunnel bowls is due to the amount of tobacco used.My large egyptian holds 50g and smokes 2+ hours easy.And uses less coals and is easier to mang heat.The smoking duration time is also heavily affectid by how you smoke.to ansewer the question Should you get anouther Phunnel?I say Only if it worked better for you than your egyptian bowl.From what I have gathered, the Tangiers bowls are made of a higher quality material than most standard clay bowls. While the longevity of the phunnels can be attributed to how much tobacco is used, it is also helped by not losing juice down the stem. That is something that normal bowls cannot do with wetter tobacco.Yeah, as far as I know phunnels are made with a higher quality material than normal Egyptian bowl ceramics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdkhookah Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 As for the main question, the obvious answer is yes. I purchased the Havana phunnel first. I think it might be closer to a Tangiers large, but either way it's way too big. I later purchased a small tangiers from John and it's perfect, even for several people.As for the constant yammering on the phunnel vs Egyptian, why does it matter? Truthfully they are both great bowls. I go back and forth between the two depending on the tobacco and the length of time I want to smoke said tobacco. The only thing twoapples doesn't get from an egyptian is the extended smoking time. I suppose the lack of flavor could be up for debate. But if anyone feels like one smokes better than another, why try and change his or her mind about it? The only time I make sure not to use an egyptian is when I smoke Tangiers. Other than that, I feel all other tobacco smokes fine from an egyptian. And the main reason for always using a phunnel with tangiers is I don't care for all the juices running down the stem. I have to say that for the main part I do use a phunnel. It's all about preference. If someone felt like metal screen were way better than using aluminum foil, I would highly disagree, but if that person felt that that's the best way to go about things and gets the results he or she enjoys then fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 the phunnel v. egypt is like most of u said prefrence and opinion. I think both do the job well, but since i just spent 12$ on a phunnel i want to get my use out of it, i still pack both my bowls and swap out after ones gets a little burnt. The phunnel does last longer to me which i actually like. but i could still use some help with it.... how the hell do you do good hole design for superb thick smoke, i ice the base, namoor wide hose, i tried packing the bowl (my med phunnel) with a hell of alot more i use 3 QL king coals.MY problem i think is holes, do you poke 1 hole down the center, do you do spiral or 3 rings with one right around the center nipple, i just cant get it right. and pics of peoples holes on a med phun could help (no youtube vid,flash player is all messed up wont play) Sorry for throwing a wrench into the your debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 The holes really dont make much of a difference. I would work on heat management and bowl packing. Try breaking up the 3kings and dispersing them evenly. If its burning its not the holes its too much heat, and too concentrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloppyJoe Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Get a small tangiers phunnel from hookahjohn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamiliarJoe Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 QUOTE (twoapplesplease @ Oct 9 2009, 01:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'd like to add my tang phunnel droped from my hand when I was taking it out of my carring case 1 foot from the floor witch was a wood floor and it broke beyond repair.Only bowl to break on me in 14 years.And I've droped my clay egyptians many times.Its just a matter of luck I guess.But notice how many I broke my phunnel threads there have been in the past.then notice how few I broke my egyptian clay bowl threads there is.from a design perspective the phunnel bowl has more week spots in its form than an egyptian bowl.I mean structure like if you designing a bridge, tottaly not based on its ability to smoke.Bowls weren't made to be dropped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bracque Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 southsmoke.com is giving away a free small phunnel bowl when you purchase 35$ worth of stuff.it's not a tangiers but it's still a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delSol_si Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 QUOTE (antouwan @ Oct 9 2009, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>and about the breakage: i was holding my 36" KM chiller by the base, the phunnel came loose and took a plummet from the top of the hookah (probably about 7.5 feet in the air and landed straight on a piece of flagstone (i was outside). i assumed the thing a gonner, when i unwrapped the foil to look at the damage i didn't see a damn thing, not a break, not a chip, not a fucking hairline crack. i'm not saying go out of your way and run the bowl over with your car and test how much abuse they can take, but they are much more durable than any other head i've come across, (i've broken several standard clay and ceramic bowls and the phunnels are a hell of a lot better in smoking performance, and durability)Ha! my first Tangiers phunnel broke the SAME way, except mine was on a 34" KM ice. Maybe those hookahs just don't like phunnels .I just skimmed most of the posts, read some.I didn't know you guys came up with a fancy name for the foil windcover...I use one myself but always just referred to it as the "poor mans windcover." I have broken 2 phunnels, no egyptians, but I use phunnels 95% of the time. I don't use an egyptian enough to break one. I also get more pissed about my phunnels breaking because they cost 15 bucks a pop and are my go to bowls, where the egyptians are $0.95 a piece (if you know where to look, or you can get 30 for $10 which is $0.33 a piece). I bought a mini egyptian off John awhile back, i think I would be kinda mad if that one broke though.Jay- I used to be all for growing my e-peen until i realized how much it cost now I'm only interested in stuff i will actually use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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