detroitmak Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Well next week i should own the following:NarbishNammorRazanRazan Abu MahirGrand CaravanI am going to create a comparison of all three hoses, and wanted to know from you guys what i should be testing for, ease of pull, smoke size, aesthetics, etc. Ive spent over $100 on these hoses, mostly because im the kind of person that likes to try everything first before i figure out my favorites. Also let me know if there are any other washables on the market, ill buy them and test those too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 3 or 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLovin600 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 i have a feeling they will all be very similar. the 3 i tried were but good luck finding the perfect one. i hope to just make on next time instead of spending $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Al Fakher Healthy HoseRoka HoseScalliwag's Washable Hose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih303 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I have most of those. They all smoke the same. Slight differences in style of the tips. I actually prefer the ones that flare out a bit at the tip where you pull from. It enables you to be lazy and hold it in your teeth while you open another beer. Build quality seems to be the best on the Grand, but I don't like the velvety stuff on the hose.I've had both a Narbish and a Razan completely fall apart but salvaged them with some glue and electrical tape. Have not tried a Nammor yet but hear it's almost identical to the Razan.I don't know much about the Abu Mahir other than it's more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih303 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (Stuie @ Oct 9 2009, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Al Fakher Healthy HoseRoka HoseScalliwag's Washable HoseI'd love to try one of Scalli's hoses but haven't had the $60+ to drop on a hose. I'm in the military, damnit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanBeccaccio Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Where can I find one of Scalli's hoses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroitmak Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (Stuie @ Oct 9 2009, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Al Fakher Healthy HoseRoka HoseScalliwag's Washable HoseWhere would one get the Roka or Scalliwag hose from, i have never even seen them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 what happened to that roka hose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 for testing, i'd like to see:Build Quality/DurabilityPull/ResistanceResistance to Ghosting after washingthat's really all you can test on...aesthetics is subjective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroitmak Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Arcane @ Oct 9 2009, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>for testing, i'd like to see:Build Quality/DurabilityPull/ResistanceResistance to Ghosting after washingthat's really all you can test on...aesthetics is subjective...Thank you for being the only person to answer my main question. Edited October 9, 2009 by detroitmak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (Scoop @ Oct 9 2009, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what happened to that roka hose?Mike is making hoses for lounges. He is still taking orders, pm me and ill send u his email. I dont know what happened with the pass, im curious if the people we sent them to just kept them or if brad never told them where to send it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (detroitmak @ Oct 9 2009, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Arcane @ Oct 9 2009, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>for testing, i'd like to see:Build Quality/DurabilityPull/ResistanceResistance to Ghosting after washingthat's really all you can test on...aesthetics is subjective...Thank you for being the only person to answer my main question. its called reading... i'm pretty good at it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I would also like a length and stiffness comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (joytron @ Oct 9 2009, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I would also like a length and stiffness comparisonhaha, i bet you would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 hahah i cant believe i missed that!no siggings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) You should get one of Al Fakher's "healthy" hoses. I believe they're washable too.Also, John's narbishes are currently falling apart.. the V1 version is. The V2 version is heavily glued together, so it should be better.Also, supposedly Nammor hoses are currently falling apart too. I think this new batch of them is using the same shoddy glue that John's V1 narbishes used. I think it's to same on money or something.Razan I have no clue about. They seem to be good hoses.I also own a Grand Washable, which has so far been the best hose. That and my old nammor I bought a year ago when they were still "good". Both of these hoses are the best on the market. I haven't heard anything about a grand falling apart yet. Edited October 9, 2009 by JDHarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Thought my Narbish was the bomb. So, today while I was smoking, as I purge, I see smoke coming out from the hose port end where the plastic tip is glued in... FML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 QUOTE (INCUBUSRATM @ Oct 9 2009, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thought my Narbish was the bomb. So, today while I was smoking, as I purge, I see smoke coming out from the hose port end where the plastic tip is glued in... FML.Yep.. that's what happened to mine too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtm2007 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I think what I'd like to see researched is the Ghosting (if that's what I think it is), because evidently hoses don't stay as clean as I wish they would. I'm definitely not a fan of those nice little Scoobie Snacks I'm getting out of my buddy's hoses. I'm thinking about going to town on those hoses, washable or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (gtm2007 @ Oct 9 2009, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think what I'd like to see researched is the Ghosting (if that's what I think it is), because evidently hoses don't stay as clean as I wish they would. I'm definitely not a fan of those nice little Scoobie Snacks I'm getting out of my buddy's hoses. I'm thinking about going to town on those hoses, washable or not...Scoobie snacks.. lol.. gross. He's not shoving dog treats into his hoses, is he?I got Nakhla coffee ghosting in mine.. I'm smoking Guava now.. but it's like.. it's better with that ghosting coffee, y'know? Maybe I should mix coffee and guava together. Edited October 9, 2009 by JDHarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtm2007 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Nope, maybe the ghosts are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 QUOTE (gtm2007 @ Oct 9 2009, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think what I'd like to see researched is the Ghosting (if that's what I think it is), because evidently hoses don't stay as clean as I wish they would. I'm definitely not a fan of those nice little Scoobie Snacks I'm getting out of my buddy's hoses. I'm thinking about going to town on those hoses, washable or not...Ghosting and scoobie snacks are two entirely different things. Ghosting is when a flavor stays where as scoobie snacks are physical chunks of ash or in this case probably rust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtm2007 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Glad I know the difference now. Thanks! Is there any way to make ghosting go away, or over time does the hose just develop its own "flavor"? I'd say so, considering the material's porous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 non-washable hoses tend to retain flavors if they're not let to air out long enough...this can be a good thing or bad thing...if you save one hose for one flavor, like mint, and use that hose repeatedly...the mint flavor will ghost and you should have a more intense minty session... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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