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so about a month ago i bought my new hookah. till today the only tobacco i smoked was this light zaghloul stuff that was plain molasses tobacco. This tobacco never made me sick or cough or anything like that, i was always fine. Recently i decided to try a new flavor and got some nakhla strawberry stuff. It was INCREDIBLY sweet and the smallest puffs made me wanna cough like mad. Im assuming its because im not used to the new nakhla stuff because my old stuff was light. That and also, the sweetness made me wanna puke. Is it just something i have to get used to? i was wondering if i could mix these 2 tobaccos and maybe it might work out better? im asking first cuz im sorta worried that mixing 2 tobaccos might not be a good idea.
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mixing is fine, you might be using too much heat. without more specific info on your setup and methods that's all I got for ya.

And holy crap man, you smoke zag regularly? that stuff is inTENSE.
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heh, like i said its LIGHT so it wasn't that bad for me. As for my setup i just used 2 coals, i dont use instant i use plain charcoal and just heat it for about 20 minutes before sticking it on. i mean i wouldn't really know how to get too indepth with my setup , usually filled the bowl but never stuffed it in there, i didnt pack it, i lightly stuck it in the bowl till filled. So you guys think it could be because of my setup or something?
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QUOTE (barth @ Oct 20 2009, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
heh, like i said its LIGHT so it wasn't that bad for me. As for my setup i just used 2 coals, i dont use instant i use plain charcoal and just heat it for about 20 minutes before sticking it on. i mean i wouldn't really know how to get too indepth with my setup , usually filled the bowl but never stuffed it in there, i didnt pack it, i lightly stuck it in the bowl till filled. So you guys think it could be because of my setup or something?

ya, well i dont know how safe regular charcoal is but i wouldnt use that anymore..get some natural coconut coals like these

heres a tutorial for regular nakhla http://www.hookahforum.com/?showtopic=33144
heres a tutorial for mizo nakhla http://www.hookahforum.com/?showtopic=31762

get you some coals from john http://www.hookahjohn.com/main.sc;jsession...26.qscstrfrnt02

BTW, we call them CH coals we are not allowed to type the C word
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QUOTE (barth @ Oct 20 2009, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thats funny, reason i used the regular is cuz i thought the instant or something might actually be worse for you. Alright, thx for the tip ill try getting some of those coconut coals or something else.

are you using the coal like kingsford that you use outside for bbq'ing?
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if you were using regular coals made for BBQ thats most likely the problem.
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it says 100% natural hardwood lump charcoal stuff but ya i guess its for bbqing, the instants are like 20$ for 6 at the place where i go and im trying to save some money. also, like, my hooka is one of those small 60$ ones and the smoke is decent but not as thick as other hookahs that i've seen, does the size affect the thickness/amount of smoke? It's sorta depressing im not getting too much smoke. its like medium sized, not that small either.
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QUOTE (barth @ Oct 20 2009, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
state of virginia, why is bbq charcoal stuff bad?

dont quote me but i think it has to do with the chemicals in it..the best thing for you to do is to get in touch with hookah john..he is the best guy to deal with, here is his site http://www.hookahjohn.com/main.sc;jsession...26.qscstrfrnt02

he has hookahs for every budget...pick you up some of his very one CH coals you get 132 pieces for only $14
if your on a budget he has $45 mya qt's which are excellent and a fan favorite among us here and many different brands of shisha for all budgets..
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QUOTE (barth @ Oct 20 2009, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
alright thx. but my charcoal says 100% natural, it hasn't bugged me up till now and 100% natural does mean no chemicals.. you'd think itd be okay? but i guess just in case ill try getting some from that site, thx.

honestly i think you will get better opinions on it if you could post a pic or two of the bag or box they come in
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im too lazy to take a picture of the bag myself but here is a picture of the EXACT same stuff i use. i got this from the net. how itll help i donno but you guys are the pros heh.

Edited by barth
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lol. i tried to use that stuff, it works horribly, same brand.

the problem my friend is that your charcoal is most likely putting out WAY too much heat and uneven heat at that.

A few people have had luck using bulk BBQ coals like that and if you search the forum well there are some old topics about such, but most people, self included, get horrible results.

good luck!
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in fact here's the thread i made a long while ago before i found good shops in the area discussing the very same charcoal.

http://www.hookahforum.com/?showtopic=23199
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don't quite get what that means XD? i gotta get my camera, take the picture, plug it in, upload it to some picture hosting site. googling the image saves me time and energy lol.

as for that post, i light mine indoors all the time, just open a window or 2. i guess that might actually be bad tho heh? Edited by barth
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QUOTE (barth @ Oct 20 2009, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im too lazy to take a picture of the bag myself but here is a picture of the EXACT same stuff i use. i got this from the net. how itll help i donno but you guys are the pros heh.





That's charcoal for bbq. The problem could be that your pieces are too big. Try smaller charcoal
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http://www.hookahforum.com/?showtopic=29113 nother thread about bulk charcoal
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that is where you are wrong buddy, pieces are not 2 big at all. i take my sweet ass time to get those pieces nice round and small so i can get 2-3 pieces fitting snuggly right on top. as a result it takes me about an 1 hour to setup a hooka that should normally take 5 minutes heh.

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QUOTE (barth @ Oct 20 2009, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that is where you are wrong buddy, pieces are not 2 big at all. i take my sweet ass time to get those pieces nice round and small so i can get 2-3 pieces fitting snuggly right on top. as a result it takes me about an 1 hour to setup a hooka that should normally take 5 minutes heh.

LMFAOOOOOOOO this whole post is so funny..thank you man..thank you i needed a good laugh..this is like straight out of a movie...but in all seriousness man..get you some regular natural coals from the link i gave you..it will save you so much time and it will enhance your smoking pleasure

i had to sig it..im sorry..lol
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glad i could make you laugh lol. but ya, to save some time i think i might as well try buying some of that stuff your recommending me. also you can laugh all you want but after that 1hr i take to fix em up those coals usually last me a good 3-4 hours. i heard instants and hookah specific coals wear out every hr or so. i dont know exactly tho, never used them myself.
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