ih303 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 QUOTE (Sonthert @ Oct 24 2009, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I believe the "brain-trust" leans more towards 1 1/2-2 CH coals with lots of large holes. Your imperative that fewer holes make for more airflow is false. There is little to no lateral airflow...the airflow should be mainly vertical. Just believe me and reduce the amount of coals when you use more holes. The "heat-up" period is something you would observe in an underpacked bowl mostly, I believe. The conduction force in an underpacked bowl leans more heavily on the ceramic, the way I pack a bowl, the tobacco has a larger part in the heat transfer. I put coals on and it starts smoking immediately, with better results in three to five minutes or so.When I pack Noir Tangiers, I do it per the video Eric did with John - foil test and all. I poke holes throughout the entire surface of the foil using a toothpick or skewer and throw two, whole AF Nats on there. First pull, I get little to no smoke. Subsequent pulls - little to no smoke. Two coals never seems like enough. It's not until I throw another on there that I seem to have enough heat to get the bowl going.So, contrary to what's usually said about Tangiers requiring less heat, it's my experience that it uses just as much as almost everything else I smoke.I think I am going to try using smaller holes. Naturals ash differently than japanese coals, and I notice bigger holes seem to clog completely to the point that I have to re-poke the holes several times during the session. Smaller holes should help alleviate this issue. I also think I'm going to stop poking all the way to the bottom of the phunnel. I can use all the conduction I can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 If you packed bigger/more holes, it wouldn't need that much heat. Probably. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Conduction dude, conduction. Honestly, in my experience tangiers is lower heat. I know Mush says he is always shocked to see how much coal people use with tangiers on their photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 The smaller the holes you use, the less of a difference you'll see in heat usage, because the more heat you'll need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I've always used the same size holes for tangiers and any other tobacco I've tried. It all worked the same for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonix Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 QUOTE (phantastik @ Oct 23 2009, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>.Now if you were on a small phunnel with 4 of john's coals and a windcover, you're craaazy!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHWWZ3o7w0results of 4 ch coals + windcover on a small tangiers phunnel with Tangiers in the bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 QUOTE (demonix @ Oct 26 2009, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (phantastik @ Oct 23 2009, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>.Now if you were on a small phunnel with 4 of john's coals and a windcover, you're craaazy!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHWWZ3o7w0results of 4 ch coals + windcover on a small tangiers phunnel with Tangiers in the bowlwhat website is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 QUOTE (demonix @ Oct 26 2009, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHWWZ3o7w0results of 4 ch coals + windcover on a small tangiers phunnel with Tangiers in the bowlLol, that's funny. I would cough up a lung with 4 and windcover on a small. 2 1/2 is plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonix Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 That's the StickAm "Hookah Lounge" room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 oh....pretty cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih303 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Although I've never smoked using a metal screen, I kind of wonder how they would perform on Tangiers. Granted, you could only possibly use it on a small phunnel, but the holes seem big enough at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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