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another vendor that comes up, adding 10-20% margin to think they can steal the entire marketshare, meanwhile pissing off everyone in the hookah industry. they will not last, not at these prices, it's been tried before, they have failed or are failing, and i've said it before about vendors that have sb at $14.99 think they are just going to cut the line and be successful. All the major players have SB at full retail price. aprrox $23 these days and they all sell more SB in 1 day than these $14.99 clowns will in 2 months.
From a consumer POV it's great, take advantage while it lasts. Just don't be too disappointed when things go wrong.
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QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Nov 13 2009, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
exactly my thoughts!

and they have a bunch of new flavors that have never been around before such as the el basha strawberry, el nak cappucino, the unflavored ones kass super and el bata ... along with a couple others ...

hmmm


WHAT?! They have el basha strawberry! John, hurry now's your chance snatch it and smoke. Then report back. smile.gif Do they have silver apple?
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QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Nov 13 2009, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
$8.99 for the new box of cocos (108 pieces)

Wonder if that price is going to piss off vendors ... jeesh



QUOTE (HookahJohn @ Nov 13 2009, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
another vendor that comes up, adding 10-20% margin to think they can steal the entire marketshare, meanwhile pissing off everyone in the hookah industry. they will not last, not at these prices, it's been tried before, they have failed or are failing, and i've said it before about vendors that have sb at $14.99 think they are just going to cut the line and be successful. All the major players have SB at full retail price. aprrox $23 these days and they all sell more SB in 1 day than these $14.99 clowns will in 2 months.
From a consumer POV it's great, take advantage while it lasts. Just don't be too disappointed when things go wrong.


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QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Nov 13 2009, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
$8.99 for the new box of cocos (108 pieces)

Wonder if that price is going to piss off vendors ... jeesh



QUOTE (HookahJohn @ Nov 13 2009, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
another vendor that comes up, adding 10-20% margin to think they can steal the entire marketshare, meanwhile pissing off everyone in the hookah industry. they will not last, not at these prices, it's been tried before, they have failed or are failing, and i've said it before about vendors that have sb at $14.99 think they are just going to cut the line and be successful. All the major players have SB at full retail price. aprrox $23 these days and they all sell more SB in 1 day than these $14.99 clowns will in 2 months.
From a consumer POV it's great, take advantage while it lasts. Just don't be too disappointed when things go wrong.


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twoapples John meant no hate to you... but he has a point every year a couple companies try similar tactics... most of them go away before long... I ordered from hookahset a few days ago and so far so good... they were very prompt in informing me of being short stock on Earl Gray, AF kiwi and pear... they broke up my order into two parts and are shippinng what they have then sending the rest in a few weeks...
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I rather pay a bit more for customer service and a guaranteed product (refer to the thread with the suspected fake Nammor washable hose). The first thing I noticed on there site is the section on the left hand side: they spelled "Lounge" incorrectly and some words are capitalized while some are not.
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QUOTE (Hookah_510 @ Nov 13 2009, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I rather pay a bit more for customer service and a guaranteed product (refer to the thread with the suspected fake Nammor washable hose). The first thing I noticed on there site is the section on the left hand side: they spelled "Lounge" incorrectly and some words are capitalized while some are not.


I agree with you. I would always order from John first.

Just letting everyone know if they are willing to give them a go, the prices at the moment are untouchable.

I am tempted to order the rare flavors they have but I think I will hold off.
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QUOTE (HookahJohn @ Nov 13 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
another vendor that comes up, adding 10-20% margin to think they can steal the entire marketshare, meanwhile pissing off everyone in the hookah industry. they will not last, not at these prices, it's been tried before, they have failed or are failing, and i've said it before about vendors that have sb at $14.99 think they are just going to cut the line and be successful. All the major players have SB at full retail price. aprrox $23 these days and they all sell more SB in 1 day than these $14.99 clowns will in 2 months.
From a consumer POV it's great, take advantage while it lasts. Just don't be too disappointed when things go wrong.


I just noticed that price was for their 100g pack, not the 250g. Your prices are actually $2.50 cheaper than theirs for sb.
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another thing to consider is customer service, if something goes wrong you can always catch john on the phone or on here..he answers emails within minutes..i think that alone is worth the few dollars more..i need people who will stand by there service and products, and no one beats john and hookah-shisha for that..
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QUOTE (HookahJohn @ Nov 13 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
another vendor that comes up, adding 10-20% margin to think they can steal the entire marketshare, meanwhile pissing off everyone in the hookah industry. they will not last, not at these prices, it's been tried before, they have failed or are failing, and i've said it before about vendors that have sb at $14.99 think they are just going to cut the line and be successful. All the major players have SB at full retail price. aprrox $23 these days and they all sell more SB in 1 day than these $14.99 clowns will in 2 months.
From a consumer POV it's great, take advantage while it lasts. Just don't be too disappointed when things go wrong.


I just noticed that price was for their 100g pack, not the 250g. Your prices are actually $2.50 cheaper than theirs for sb.

oops, thought that was for 250g. nice rant over nothing.
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QUOTE (HookahJohn @ Nov 14 2009, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (fillup @ Nov 14 2009, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (HookahJohn @ Nov 13 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
another vendor that comes up, adding 10-20% margin to think they can steal the entire marketshare, meanwhile pissing off everyone in the hookah industry. they will not last, not at these prices, it's been tried before, they have failed or are failing, and i've said it before about vendors that have sb at $14.99 think they are just going to cut the line and be successful. All the major players have SB at full retail price. aprrox $23 these days and they all sell more SB in 1 day than these $14.99 clowns will in 2 months.
From a consumer POV it's great, take advantage while it lasts. Just don't be too disappointed when things go wrong.


I just noticed that price was for their 100g pack, not the 250g. Your prices are actually $2.50 cheaper than theirs for sb.

oops, thought that was for 250g. nice rant over nothing.


You're not completely out of place actually. There are still plenty of sites that lowball tobacco (nakhla for $5?) and coals unnecessarily or just to burn the market.

You still make a very valid point.
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QUOTE (HookahJohn @ Nov 13 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
another vendor that comes up, adding 10-20% margin to think they can steal the entire marketshare, meanwhile pissing off everyone in the hookah industry. they will not last, not at these prices, it's been tried before, they have failed or are failing, and i've said it before about vendors that have sb at $14.99 think they are just going to cut the line and be successful. All the major players have SB at full retail price. aprrox $23 these days and they all sell more SB in 1 day than these $14.99 clowns will in 2 months.
From a consumer POV it's great, take advantage while it lasts. Just don't be too disappointed when things go wrong.


I just noticed that price was for their 100g pack, not the 250g. Your prices are actually $2.50 cheaper than theirs for sb.

oops, thought that was for 250g. nice rant over nothing.


You're not completely out of place actually. There are still plenty of sites that lowball tobacco (nakhla for $5?) and coals unnecessarily or just to burn the market.

You still make a very valid point.

ah yes, the coal thing. here is another point. ccn is sold retail by every online hookah vendor. some will be complaining about this directly to ccn if they haven't already. it's the same thing, but i'd like to discuss something that i could actually do to change things. what if i put my own competing product at $8.99 since I am almost the only one that carries them. The boys at TH and HC would understand, I would make it up to them, maybe buy back their stock. But the seriousness of this is that ccn would have to come down to my level to compete, yet no other vendor would want to carry that product if the list price is $8.99. This is the kind of problems that could arise. I will be thinking about this as I am also a retailer of ccn, and i respect and love their product(s).
This is all part of ongoing strategies to maintain a profitable business. Again, for the consumer this is great. If hookahset wants to make $2 a box of ccn's that's great for you. It's very bad for the ccn company, it's actually dangerous, but as a consumer myself I would buy from them. As a retailer I will not carry ccn any longer if that is supposed to be the retail price yet I still pay what I do for it.

Another similar coal company is 3K's. This was the most in demand charcoal at one time. It used to be profitable too, it moved volumes and had a healthy profit margin. I think they used to retail $16-17, and cost somewhere in the $6-7 range wholesale. Products like that keep retailers happy. Nowadays 3K's go for $12-13 and cost $9-10 wholesale....and don't sell as much anymore...think I'll pass on that one.

I'm not sure how good 3k's are doing these days but I do know that everyone that used to wholesale them and get them by the pallet monthly no longer do. hmmmmm.
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QUOTE (HookahJohn @ Nov 14 2009, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (fillup @ Nov 14 2009, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (HookahJohn @ Nov 13 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
another vendor that comes up, adding 10-20% margin to think they can steal the entire marketshare, meanwhile pissing off everyone in the hookah industry. they will not last, not at these prices, it's been tried before, they have failed or are failing, and i've said it before about vendors that have sb at $14.99 think they are just going to cut the line and be successful. All the major players have SB at full retail price. aprrox $23 these days and they all sell more SB in 1 day than these $14.99 clowns will in 2 months.
From a consumer POV it's great, take advantage while it lasts. Just don't be too disappointed when things go wrong.


I just noticed that price was for their 100g pack, not the 250g. Your prices are actually $2.50 cheaper than theirs for sb.

oops, thought that was for 250g. nice rant over nothing.


You're not completely out of place actually. There are still plenty of sites that lowball tobacco (nakhla for $5?) and coals unnecessarily or just to burn the market.

You still make a very valid point.


I buy Nakhla in stores for 5 dollars. There are two types of stores between Richmond VA (central va) and northern VA: the type that sells Nakhla for 15 dollars a box and the type that sells them for 5. I don't know how they're able to do this, but I suspect that the same thing that enables stores around here to sell them for 5 dollars allows the online retailers who are based relatively close to me to do the same...
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I buy Nakhla in stores for 5 dollars. There are two types of stores between Richmond VA (central va) and northern VA: the type that sells Nakhla for 15 dollars a box and the type that sells them for 5. I don't know how they're able to do this, but I suspect that the same thing that enables stores around here to sell them for 5 dollars allows the online retailers who are based relatively close to me to do the same...
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I can say it, it's called tax evasion, by someone in the channel. Let's put it this way, if my cost is $6.99 wholesale and CA tobacco tax is 45% then the cost of the tobacco itself is $3.85...if you don't pay taxes on them. Evading taxes does make your profit margins go up quite a bit. Now, I'm not saying hookahset does this as different states have different laws regarding tobacco taxes. Now supermarkets on the other hand have the lower prices because they are supermarkets, work on volume and really only mark up hookah tobacco 20%. All of this, again, doesn't matter to the consumer though, tobacco is just a commodity.
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