antouwan Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (SloppyJoe @ Nov 23 2009, 04:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Jacob Shock @ Nov 23 2009, 05:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (SloppyJoe @ Nov 23 2009, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have a similar problem. Here's the thing. Since I've been smoking hookah there's always been people that have wanted to smoke with. I've also brought my hookah to parties. Usually I don't mind it. But that's just me being a pushover with the hookah situation. I've had one guy throw me $10 bucks at a party and another girl throw me a few bucks every time we've smoked. I've never really asked for anything. But it can get expensive. I just don't know how to deal with it. I like smoking with people, but I want them to pay up if we are going to be smoking for 5+ hours with 10 people. I'm not sure how much I should charge though. One group of people with usually 10 people will request a couple different flavors. I have to set my hookah up, clean it and all. Keep packing the bowls, getting down the heat management and using all those coals. A lot of times it will take me like 10 minutes to light coals because I have to do it at an open flame when I'm at my cousins. Lately every time I smoke people want bubbles and shit for blowing hookah bubbles so I provide all that too. I feel like I do a lot really when I don't even smoke everyday. I smoke once in a while by myself but that's pretty much it. I think I just need to come up with a formula for charging people. One thing I thought of was to look at it this way. About half the people that smoke with me are cig smokers. They know the cost of there cigarettes and I don't even think that hookah would be that expensive. For them it shouldn't be a big deal. Most even want a hookah or like hookah better.Meh....any ideas?Oh and I forgot to add. People throughout my time smoking hookah have broke 3 of my bowls and almost tipped over my hookah like 8 times. It's shitty. Never got money for them either.well i was thinking of charging but id rather just be with my homeboy and smoke hookah with out muchers. i did come up with a couple ideas though.1.Make a reservation. this means no coming over asking to smoke and no calling up to smoke. if you wanna smoke its an appointment. give them a time when they can smoke, if they cant smoke then cause they have something to do who cares. set the apointment at a time thats best for you.2. charge on a bowl but bowl basis. find a bowl that will be your "profit bowl" i thing a small tangiers phunnel with 2 rounds of coals is $10 at least $15 at most. or a 2 hour smoke session for $15.3. BRING YOUR OWN MOTHERFUCKING ROOT BEER!Well I feel like if I ask them to smoke it's more of you can smoke for free. But I think if I have it out and people want to smoke I can charge. Then again there's some that like to smoke only a little and I dunno what to do with them. I suppose since they don't smoke a lot they can for free anyway.I think a bowl basis or round of coals basis would be good and just divide it up and have them pay me after the session. I might try out leaving a tip bucket or something. Haha and put the amount I paid for all the stuff in front of them. This setup, coals, tobacco, etc cost me $300! lol something like that.brilliant. break everything down by cost and just tell them, 'yeah every head i smoke is like $_.__' and then stare at them. and if they don't get it just keep going. 'this new head cost me $__' 'this tobacco is great, but it's about $_.__ . . .man this is an expensive hobby at this rate"for the moochers, just make it extremely awkward. if you kill the environment for them, the won't want to come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (Jacob Shock @ Nov 22 2009, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok guys.im so fucking sick of people knocking on my door, practically inviting themselves over to smoke my hookahs. there showing in flocks. using my tobacco and my coals. i dont mind sharing every now and again. but theres like 10 people doing this, probably thinking my house is a free hookah lounge.i have a friend who ussully smoke with me everday but it diffent for him because1. he is really close to me2. he is more respectful of my shit3. 1 person is reltivly easy to pay for, if you gonna do it anyway.4. he is useful. atleast he knows how to use the thing. everyone else stares at me like a stray cat, expectin me to put food in a bowl.i just wanna live in piece with my hookahs. and have decided it best for me to get rid of them. they drank all my root beer. how should i get rid of them?I had the same issue with alcohol. people would come over drink my jager and crown and leave. when i told them next time they come over to bring some crown with them (to replace the one that they drank, which i had none of) i never saw them again.tell them that if they want to smoke to bring over $5-10 to cover the supplies and that should take care of the issue, they will either bring over the money or be too busy to hang out with you.edit:just FYI im not saying to charge new people for the hookah, just the regulars that come over and smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Shock Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (Canon @ Nov 23 2009, 04:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Jacob Shock @ Nov 22 2009, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok guys.im so fucking sick of people knocking on my door, practically inviting themselves over to smoke my hookahs. there showing in flocks. using my tobacco and my coals. i dont mind sharing every now and again. but theres like 10 people doing this, probably thinking my house is a free hookah lounge.i have a friend who ussully smoke with me everday but it diffent for him because1. he is really close to me2. he is more respectful of my shit3. 1 person is reltivly easy to pay for, if you gonna do it anyway.4. he is useful. atleast he knows how to use the thing. everyone else stares at me like a stray cat, expectin me to put food in a bowl.i just wanna live in piece with my hookahs. and have decided it best for me to get rid of them. they drank all my root beer. how should i get rid of them?I had the same issue with alcohol. people would come over drink my jager and crown and leave. when i told them next time they come over to bring some crown with them (to replace the one that they drank, which i had none of) i never saw them again.tell them that if they want to smoke to bring over $5-10 to cover the supplies and that should take care of the issue, they will either bring over the money or be too busy to hang out with you.edit:just FYI im not saying to charge new people for the hookah, just the regulars that come over and smoke.at rhis point there is no new people i will introduce to hookah. no more. how do you think this problem started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Shock Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (antouwan @ Nov 23 2009, 04:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (SloppyJoe @ Nov 23 2009, 04:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Jacob Shock @ Nov 23 2009, 05:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (SloppyJoe @ Nov 23 2009, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have a similar problem. Here's the thing. Since I've been smoking hookah there's always been people that have wanted to smoke with. I've also brought my hookah to parties. Usually I don't mind it. But that's just me being a pushover with the hookah situation. I've had one guy throw me $10 bucks at a party and another girl throw me a few bucks every time we've smoked. I've never really asked for anything. But it can get expensive. I just don't know how to deal with it. I like smoking with people, but I want them to pay up if we are going to be smoking for 5+ hours with 10 people. I'm not sure how much I should charge though. One group of people with usually 10 people will request a couple different flavors. I have to set my hookah up, clean it and all. Keep packing the bowls, getting down the heat management and using all those coals. A lot of times it will take me like 10 minutes to light coals because I have to do it at an open flame when I'm at my cousins. Lately every time I smoke people want bubbles and shit for blowing hookah bubbles so I provide all that too. I feel like I do a lot really when I don't even smoke everyday. I smoke once in a while by myself but that's pretty much it. I think I just need to come up with a formula for charging people. One thing I thought of was to look at it this way. About half the people that smoke with me are cig smokers. They know the cost of there cigarettes and I don't even think that hookah would be that expensive. For them it shouldn't be a big deal. Most even want a hookah or like hookah better.Meh....any ideas?Oh and I forgot to add. People throughout my time smoking hookah have broke 3 of my bowls and almost tipped over my hookah like 8 times. It's shitty. Never got money for them either.well i was thinking of charging but id rather just be with my homeboy and smoke hookah with out muchers. i did come up with a couple ideas though.1.Make a reservation. this means no coming over asking to smoke and no calling up to smoke. if you wanna smoke its an appointment. give them a time when they can smoke, if they cant smoke then cause they have something to do who cares. set the apointment at a time thats best for you.2. charge on a bowl but bowl basis. find a bowl that will be your "profit bowl" i thing a small tangiers phunnel with 2 rounds of coals is $10 at least $15 at most. or a 2 hour smoke session for $15.3. BRING YOUR OWN MOTHERFUCKING ROOT BEER!Well I feel like if I ask them to smoke it's more of you can smoke for free. But I think if I have it out and people want to smoke I can charge. Then again there's some that like to smoke only a little and I dunno what to do with them. I suppose since they don't smoke a lot they can for free anyway.I think a bowl basis or round of coals basis would be good and just divide it up and have them pay me after the session. I might try out leaving a tip bucket or something. Haha and put the amount I paid for all the stuff in front of them. This setup, coals, tobacco, etc cost me $300! lol something like that.brilliant. break everything down by cost and just tell them, 'yeah every head i smoke is like $_.__' and then stare at them. and if they don't get it just keep going. 'this new head cost me $__' 'this tobacco is great, but it's about $_.__ . . .man this is an expensive hobby at this rate"for the moochers, just make it extremely awkward. if you kill the environment for them, the won't want to come backi have a mnh small glass phunnel, WITH SCALI MOD...AND GLASS SCREEN!that was a $60 dollar bowl after shipping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I guess I am lucky in the fact that I don't have moochers, never had. When Canon was in town he would bring over a bowl of something to smoke... or that awesome DIP!!!!Others I have introduced have since bought there own setup and don't ever mooch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloppyJoe Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (Stuie @ Nov 23 2009, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I guess I am lucky in the fact that I don't have moochers, never had. When Canon was in town he would bring over a bowl of something to smoke... or that awesome DIP!!!!Others I have introduced have since bought there own setup and don't ever mooch.What's this amazing dip you speak of? I never had any awesome DIP. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_rabbit Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 no moochers for me. never had a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Shock Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (Stuie @ Nov 23 2009, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I guess I am lucky in the fact that I don't have moochers, never had. When Canon was in town he would bring over a bowl of something to smoke... or that awesome DIP!!!!Others I have introduced have since bought there own setup and don't ever mooch. Is it a food dip, or smokless tobacco dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleTheJustin Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Tell them to get the hell out and actually call the moochers. People usually take the hint when you drop the mooch bomb on them. Or just play Linkin Park really loud; that would drive any sensible human being away.I had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (SloppyJoe @ Nov 23 2009, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Stuie @ Nov 23 2009, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I guess I am lucky in the fact that I don't have moochers, never had. When Canon was in town he would bring over a bowl of something to smoke... or that awesome DIP!!!!Others I have introduced have since bought there own setup and don't ever mooch.What's this amazing dip you speak of? I never had any awesome DIP. :/QUOTE (Jacob Shock @ Nov 23 2009, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Stuie @ Nov 23 2009, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I guess I am lucky in the fact that I don't have moochers, never had. When Canon was in town he would bring over a bowl of something to smoke... or that awesome DIP!!!!Others I have introduced have since bought there own setup and don't ever mooch. Is it a food dip, or smokless tobacco dip.It's this 7 Layer Dip from Walmart, that if you heat it up and mix it all together it's ...... AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Shock Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (KyleTheJustin @ Nov 23 2009, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Tell them to get the hell out and actually call the moochers. People usually take the hint when you drop the mooch bomb on them. Or just play Linkin Park really loud; that would drive any sensible human being away.I had to. OH FUCK NO!you didnt just bash linkin park.i blast linkin park all the time for the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (Jacob Shock @ Nov 23 2009, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (KyleTheJustin @ Nov 23 2009, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Tell them to get the hell out and actually call the moochers. People usually take the hint when you drop the mooch bomb on them. Or just play Linkin Park really loud; that would drive any sensible human being away.I had to. OH FUCK NO!you didnt just bash linkin park.i blast linkin park all the time for the record.Jacob, I'm Shock ed. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (KyleTheJustin @ Nov 23 2009, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Tell them to get the hell out and actually call the moochers. People usually take the hint when you drop the mooch bomb on them. Or just play Linkin Park really loud; that would drive any sensible human being away.I had to.Oh my gawd someone turned on linkin park, MY HEAD!!!.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloppyJoe Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I grew up on LP. It's awesome! I can't wait for there next album next year it's gonna make your head explode!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (joytron @ Nov 23 2009, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Oh my gawd someone turned on linkin park, MY HEAD!!!.... QUOTE (SloppyJoe @ Nov 23 2009, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I grew up on LP. It's awesome! I can't wait for there next album next year it's gonna make your head explode!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Shock Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (SloppyJoe @ Nov 23 2009, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I grew up on LP. It's awesome! I can't wait for there next album next year it's gonna make your head explode!!! Aparently in differnt ways for differnt people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Shock Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (Stuie @ Nov 23 2009, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Jacob Shock @ Nov 23 2009, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (KyleTheJustin @ Nov 23 2009, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Tell them to get the hell out and actually call the moochers. People usually take the hint when you drop the mooch bomb on them. Or just play Linkin Park really loud; that would drive any sensible human being away.I had to. OH FUCK NO!you didnt just bash linkin park.i blast linkin park all the time for the record.Jacob, I'm Shock ed. .Damn good pun stuie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleTheJustin Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 lol It's a joke, man. Don't crawl under my skin, man. These wounds might not heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersubby Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 do what i do establish a smoke for 3 bucks rule...if im throwing a party or randoms come buy 3 bucsk to smokes....coal aint cheap!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLovin600 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 people who I do not know only come into my residence when accompanied by someone whom I know very well. and then you hook them up with smoke and delicious refreshing drinks? does it matter if they think ur a dick? do you care what your rep is within this moocher community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Best idea I had when we had alot of people over. [attachment=4506:DSC02146.JPG] Also, put a few of your dollars and fives in there, it will make them feel obligated like other people already have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (ryno @ Nov 23 2009, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Best idea I had when we had alot of people over. [attachment=4506:DSC02146.JPG] Also, put a few of your dollars and fives in there, it will make them feel obligated like other people already haveYou got some cheap friends, there isn't even a bill in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (Stuie @ Nov 23 2009, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (ryno @ Nov 23 2009, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Best idea I had when we had alot of people over. [attachment=4506:DSC02146.JPG] Also, put a few of your dollars and fives in there, it will make them feel obligated like other people already haveYou got some cheap friends, there isn't even a bill in there.Thats when we first put it up, and we put our own change in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (ryno @ Nov 23 2009, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Stuie @ Nov 23 2009, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (ryno @ Nov 23 2009, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Best idea I had when we had alot of people over. [attachment=4506:DSC02146.JPG] Also, put a few of your dollars and fives in there, it will make them feel obligated like other people already haveYou got some cheap friends, there isn't even a bill in there.Thats when we first put it up, and we put our own change in thereAwww... priming the pump... got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloppyJoe Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 QUOTE (ryno @ Nov 23 2009, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Best idea I had when we had alot of people over. [attachment=4506:DSC02146.JPG] Also, put a few of your dollars and fives in there, it will make them feel obligated like other people already haveDear Ryno, Your awesome. That is all. Your Friend,SJ :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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