Rani Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I got so pissed last night watching television. In the middle of my program on comes an anti-smoking ad from tobaccofreeca. Not the usual "let us help you quit ad", no not at all. This one shows a toddler playing in his apartment on the floor and second hand smoke seeping through the walls and ventilation system from the apartment next door that starts him coughing and choking. Damn it, they've gone too far. Now they're going to try and deny what we do in our own homes? Pitting our neighbors against us implying we're hurting their kids through the walls? And what's really pissing me off is that I check their website (www.tobaccofreeca.com) and it turns out the State of California is partnering with them to produce the ads! So we're paying our own tax dollars to be told what we can and can't do in our own homes? Outrageous. And probably proof the tobacco nazis won't be happy until all tobacco is banned completely. Bastards.'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RingsMaster Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Dec 1 2009, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I got so pissed last night watching television. In the middle of my program on comes an anti-smoking ad from tobaccofreeca. Not the usual "let us help you quit ad", no not at all. This one shows a toddler playing in his apartment on the floor and second hand smoke seeping through the walls and ventilation system from the apartment next door that starts him coughing and choking. Damn it, they've gone too far. Now they're going to try and deny what we do in our own homes? Pitting our neighbors against us implying we're hurting their kids through the walls? And what's really pissing me off is that I check their website (www.tobaccofreeca.com) and it turns out the State of California is partnering with them to produce the ads! So we're paying our own tax dollars to be told what we can and can't do in our own homes? Outrageous. And probably proof the tobacco nazis won't be happy until all tobacco is banned completely. Bastards.'Ranithats really gay, people go way to far. people need to back off. i honestly believe people do this because they enjoy making people angry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobiasKM Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 There's talk about banning shisha tobacco in Denmark right now, because it "tricks young people into smoking cigarettes".. A stupid argument, for a stupid idea, by some half-wit politicians.But I agree, the ads you're talking about does sound like it crosses the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 soon we wont be allowed to have sex in our own homes we will have to go to a special designated building and will need a license to do it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiLLooR Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I dont understand why countries are so hell bent of stopping people smoking, I understand all the risks etc but if people want to do it let them do it. Where will they get revenue from if tobacco sales decline? Surely they are a really really important source of income through tax etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Pyramid Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Dec 1 2009, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I got so pissed last night watching television. In the middle of my program on comes an anti-smoking ad from tobaccofreeca. Not the usual "let us help you quit ad", no not at all. This one shows a toddler playing in his apartment on the floor and second hand smoke seeping through the walls and ventilation system from the apartment next door that starts him coughing and choking. Damn it, they've gone too far. Now they're going to try and deny what we do in our own homes? Pitting our neighbors against us implying we're hurting their kids through the walls? And what's really pissing me off is that I check their website (www.tobaccofreeca.com) and it turns out the State of California is partnering with them to produce the ads! So we're paying our own tax dollars to be told what we can and can't do in our own homes? Outrageous. And probably proof the tobacco nazis won't be happy until all tobacco is banned completely. Bastards.'RaniThis is just absolute spin and over zealousness, but we're dealing with people who have a single minded agenda...I'm serious, this whole second hand smoking crap is bias propoganda. What's that you say? Second hand smoke kills? Well buddy how about that car exaust you take in daily? How about that toxic outgassing from teflon you cook with? How about dust particles from your carpet and what not comprised of toxic petrochemicals and such? So how about those fumes from paints, cleaning chemicals, and ect...? Got a pet bird or dust mites, well your lungs are screwed my friend. Don't tell me this shit until you can isolate everything out, otherwise there is no fucking way you can qualify second hand smoke as a ubber mecha planet destroying toxin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Nobody tells me what I can and can't do inside my own house. I also don't have a TV so I can't see these ads until they start making billboards. Hopefully our next governor puts an end to the anti-tobacco nonsense floating around in this state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 QUOTE (inino @ Dec 1 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nobody tells me what I can and can't do inside my own house. I also don't have a TV so I can't see these ads until they start making billboards. Hopefully our next governor puts an end to the anti-tobacco nonsense floating around in this state.If you're in California, your next governor (and mine) is most likely going to be Jerry Brown again. A yoga posing vegan anti-smoking nazi himself. Anybody know what the biggest national political group working on personal freedoms is? Maybe we all need to join and start bitching everytime the political machine even looks like it's going after yet another personal freedom.'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Shock Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Somebody needs to get shot in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 "men are born naturally free, but walk around with chains"this is absolutely ridiculous when will people eventually mind their own business I won't stop smoking on my own property Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sin on Sunday Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 QUOTE (Jacob Shock @ Dec 1 2009, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Somebody needs to get shot in the face.thats a bit far haha.so far in washington i havent seen anything like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLovin600 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Man I am yet to see one of these crazy ads for ANYTHING. i think im missing out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretender85 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 People who get involved in ads like that are the modern day zealots of society..i.e. people who blindly follow whatever the important(not necessarily intelligent) person tells them is right lol..it is getting quite ridiculous these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charley Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Dec 1 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I got so pissed last night watching television. In the middle of my program on comes an anti-smoking ad from tobaccofreeca. Not the usual "let us help you quit ad", no not at all. This one shows a toddler playing in his apartment on the floor and second hand smoke seeping through the walls and ventilation system from the apartment next door that starts him coughing and choking. Damn it, they've gone too far. Now they're going to try and deny what we do in our own homes? Pitting our neighbors against us implying we're hurting their kids through the walls? And what's really pissing me off is that I check their website (www.tobaccofreeca.com) and it turns out the State of California is partnering with them to produce the ads! So we're paying our own tax dollars to be told what we can and can't do in our own homes? Outrageous. And probably proof the tobacco nazis won't be happy until all tobacco is banned completely. Bastards.'RaniI forget what the town in cali is called but i made a post about it a while back. they banned smoking inside your own home if it had a shared wall with another residence even if the person who lived in that residence was also a smoker. I think I even linked a video of an old woman who got fined or arested or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vballpro Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Yea this whole thing is full of bull. In Illinois they banned ciggy's in public places. You need to be at least 15ft from a public building before you smoke. It all started in the airport, there were designated smoking spots. Then they gave businesses a chance to be be smoke free, so half of them went smoke free, and the other half got all the smokers and their profits rose two-fold. What do ya know? Then the smoke free business owners complained that they lost all of their sales, and now it's all smoke free. Just crap. The new thing out is that they started to cut back on trans fat...and all of the people onboard the tobbacco bash, said WOAH WOAH WOAH!!!!! YOU CAN'T INVADE OUR PERSONAL LIVES! We can eat what we want to. You can't tell us what we can and can't do! Double edged sword! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seefoodlover Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 The Danes are banning shisha? They stop for a smoke break in the middle of dinner!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 The reason they can't implement a law like that is that is that enforcing it, coming out to people's houses because somebody "Smelled Smoke" would be impossible. Call the police and say that you smelled NHT smoke from the apartment upstairs and see what they say. They'll try to pass the law, but the enforcement will be impossible. They'd have to ban it completely to get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (Charley @ Dec 1 2009, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Dec 1 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I got so pissed last night watching television. In the middle of my program on comes an anti-smoking ad from tobaccofreeca. Not the usual "let us help you quit ad", no not at all. This one shows a toddler playing in his apartment on the floor and second hand smoke seeping through the walls and ventilation system from the apartment next door that starts him coughing and choking. Damn it, they've gone too far. Now they're going to try and deny what we do in our own homes? Pitting our neighbors against us implying we're hurting their kids through the walls? And what's really pissing me off is that I check their website (www.tobaccofreeca.com) and it turns out the State of California is partnering with them to produce the ads! So we're paying our own tax dollars to be told what we can and can't do in our own homes? Outrageous. And probably proof the tobacco nazis won't be happy until all tobacco is banned completely. Bastards.'RaniI forget what the town in cali is called but i made a post about it a while back. they banned smoking inside your own home if it had a shared wall with another residence even if the person who lived in that residence was also a smoker. I think I even linked a video of an old woman who got fined or arested or something.I want to say it was in Reseda, but I'm not totally certain. Some city in the Valley as I recall. I also recall the homeowners association was suing her trying to enforce it and force her out of her condo. (It made the local news.) She wasn't counter suing but she was pretty much doing a "sit-in in her own home" with a "go ahead let me see you make me stop" attitude. I agree with Eric that it's going to be damned near unenforceable, but just the fact that they would publically go that far shows how intense they are about eventually banning all tobacco products. I honestly believe they will not stop until they're either stopped in Supreme Court or they get their way. 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 it should be interesting to see how it all palys out but theres too much tax money to be made in tobacco, I don't see it becoming outlawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Thing is, research is going on that shows that hookah tobacco is no where near as harmful per session as cigarettes and you hear nothing about it. When they say "yea there can be this slight danger over here to this select group" they go nuts and want to have it banned overall. It's not going to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RingsMaster Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Dec 2 2009, 05:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thing is, research is going on that shows that hookah tobacco is no where near as harmful per session as cigarettes and you hear nothing about it. When they say "yea there can be this slight danger over here to this select group" they go nuts and want to have it banned overall. It's not going to stop.theres always going to be people out there that want to ruin it for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobiasKM Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 QUOTE (seefoodlover @ Dec 2 2009, 02:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The Danes are banning shisha? They stop for a smoke break in the middle of dinner!!!!Smoking in public buildings that are over 40 squaremeters large has been banned here in Denmark for a while now.I think that's quite nice in some cases, but going further than that.. Then it's getting too much in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydoo Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 QUOTE (Charley @ Dec 2 2009, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Dec 1 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I got so pissed last night watching television. In the middle of my program on comes an anti-smoking ad from tobaccofreeca. Not the usual "let us help you quit ad", no not at all. This one shows a toddler playing in his apartment on the floor and second hand smoke seeping through the walls and ventilation system from the apartment next door that starts him coughing and choking. Damn it, they've gone too far. Now they're going to try and deny what we do in our own homes? Pitting our neighbors against us implying we're hurting their kids through the walls? And what's really pissing me off is that I check their website (www.tobaccofreeca.com) and it turns out the State of California is partnering with them to produce the ads! So we're paying our own tax dollars to be told what we can and can't do in our own homes? Outrageous. And probably proof the tobacco nazis won't be happy until all tobacco is banned completely. Bastards.'RaniI forget what the town in cali is called but i made a post about it a while back. they banned smoking inside your own home if it had a shared wall with another residence even if the person who lived in that residence was also a smoker. I think I even linked a video of an old woman who got fined or arested or something.OMG HOW STUPID! So we should target all annoying or hazardous neighbors! Neighbors who burn their food, wear too much perfume, pass gas, have crying babies! Arrest all the MOFOS! LOL! I get so tired of people thinking they have a say in what another adult human does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayneuki Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Here in TN (at least Memphis, I think it's the whole state though) it's illegal to smoke in a restaurant, UNLESS it's a bar. So basically if you want to smoke anywhere but your own home you must be 21... Which is retarded but I kind-of understand why they did it. I generally don't mind smoking (saying that I smoke hookah) to each his own I say. But if they were to ban it in my own home? Well I'd be rather miffed. Even if I didn't smoke I would be raising hell, for gods sake where's freedom gone? Do we need another civil war to wake up the government?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 QUOTE (Rayneuki @ Dec 8 2009, 03:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Here in TN (at least Memphis, I think it's the whole state though) it's illegal to smoke in a restaurant, UNLESS it's a bar. So basically if you want to smoke anywhere but your own home you must be 21... Which is retarded but I kind-of understand why they did it. I generally don't mind smoking (saying that I smoke hookah) to each his own I say. But if they were to ban it in my own home? Well I'd be rather miffed. Even if I didn't smoke I would be raising hell, for gods sake where's freedom gone? Do we need another civil war to wake up the government?!in houston, TX it's illegal to smoke INSIDE, ANYWHERE – bars included. i think cigar retailers are the only exception. they also just passed a CRAZY tobacco tax, effectively tripling the price of shisha. i used to get a 250g of AF for 8.89, now at the same store it is between 22 - 24 dollars. FUCK THAT. i don't know because now i buy all my tobacco online out of state. i feel like shit like that severely hurts local businesses. also, the tax will increase annually – INDEFINITELY. imo retailers should just stop selling tobacco and promote all residents to buy tobacco from out of state. lets see the state make any money like that. fucking assholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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