Desi Murli Warning....

[Stuie]

So I bought a batch of Desi about 6 months ago. It's I gotta be in the mood for it so it's lasted a while. When I got them i put them in Lock n Locks, that were clean and dry. There were 3 flavors I hadn't tried. 2 of them... had mold growing in them, that I could see. I don't have pics with me get them up later. So in good conscience had to through out all my Desi. Wasn't a whole lot, but I don't want to breathe in mold...Biggest allergy for me.

Anybody else have this happen to you?

[mushrat]

man i have some old shisha thats gotta be 4 years old at this point and I have never seen mold grow on the stuff. Makes you wonder.

[rj_skillz]

mold? thats disgusting!

[Jacob Shock]

never had anything like that happen. but i will be smoking my desi faster.

[Stuie]

Yeah I haven't had any mold on anything else Mush, but maybe it's something in the Desi, that's prone to it? I mean I scrapped through the other one I hadn't tried, couldn't find anything, but i through it out just to be safe. I won't order so much Desi next time. Couple flavors at at time from now on.

[Jacob Shock]

desi is very special.

was there glycerin on the moldy desi. glycerin is a natural preservative. without it i could see mold growing.

[AKammenzind]

Once had that happen with some old nakhla orange, hell if I know how or why though. I've got ~500g of desi left from when I bought a ton around a year ago... I just keep it in ziplocs and I've been fine.

[nars2k]

Must have had a air leak somewhere because like mush Ive had a flavor for a few years and it was perfect. Maybe its just the bad quality stuff?

[Stuie]

Must have had a air leak somewhere because like mush Ive had a flavor for a few years and it was perfect. Maybe its just the bad quality stuff?

They were in lock and locks... there was no air leak.

[fcbayern]

THere probably some crazy mold spore flying around when you put the shisha in the tub. Thats all it takes.. that or it came in the shisha.

Either way there doesnt need to be an air leak i the LnL for it to grow mold.. Just putsome food in one and let it sit around for a week or two, you'll see it can grow mold without an air leak..

Now it being me, I probably would have taken out the moldy part of the shisha and smoked the rest.. The heat will kill anything, what the worst that can happen?

[rhineholt]

THere probably some crazy mold spore flying around when you put the shisha in the tub. Thats all it takes.. that or it came in the shisha.

Either way there doesnt need to be an air leak i the LnL for it to grow mold.. Just putsome food in one and let it sit around for a week or two, you'll see it can grow mold without an air leak..

Now it being me, I probably would have taken out the moldy part of the shisha and smoked the rest.. The heat will kill anything, what the worst that can happen?

Heated up mold? Idk about that.

[Jacob Shock]

THere probably some crazy mold spore flying around when you put the shisha in the tub. Thats all it takes.. that or it came in the shisha.

Either way there doesnt need to be an air leak i the LnL for it to grow mold.. Just putsome food in one and let it sit around for a week or two, you'll see it can grow mold without an air leak..

Now it being me, I probably would have taken out the moldy part of the shisha and smoked the rest.. The heat will kill anything, what the worst that can happen?

Heated up mold? Idk about that.

i feel a big buzz coming up

[hookah hippie]

I too have some extremely old shisha but I haven't experienced anything like this. Perhaps it got moisture inside and started to mold.

[inino]

Good thing you spotted it, something about smoking mold sounds pretty dangerous.

[twoapplesplease]

I've heard Desi Murli needs to be referidgerated.Or it goes bad in a few months..

[JDHarding]

I think because Desi Murli is made with actual ingredients, and not flavored syrups, that those ingredients can cause mold. Seriously. I think it's soaked in whatever ingredient they turned into soup. The tobacco is regular pipe tobacco, but the rest is fruit or whatever the flavor is.

I've heard cigars can grow mold, though, so I dunno. Maybe the tobacco can get moldy. It's pretty dry compared to anything else. The drier, the easier it grows mold?

[Chaz1337]

Actually the more damp something is it is more likely to grow mold. Fungal growth loves warm, wet and dark places. This same principle applies to why women get yeast infections.

[demonix]

I know several people that smoke DM and this is the first I have ever heard of this, that's weird
I never knew DM with pipe tobacco, but hell I have never seen what the cut looks like so that makes sense

Anyone mind PM'ing me a pic of the cut, I'm really interested in seeing what it looks like

Actually the more damp something is it is more likely to grow mold. Fungal growth loves warm, wet and dark places. This same principle applies to why women get yeast infections.

Omg... ROFL

[Bulldog_916]

I'm just thinking natural tobacco, not bone dry, not wet either, just moist, will grow mold. Plus any flavoring components added to the baccy itself will feed that mold so it may just depend on the condition in which the tobacco is stored, what the weather is like, temperature, humidity, etc. Like was said before, store a cigar wrong and you'll see mold on it pretty quick.

[jeremyk]

that sucks how much did you have to throw out stuie?

[Sonthert]

This problem could be mold, especially if it smelled and tasted like mold. I have noticed some flavors will have a slight-medium buildup of powder that looks like mold on them. This comes from a vaporized flavor component that refluxes from a gas back to its original state of matter. If the original state is a solid, then it will begin forming powdery or crystalline growths. One of the main offenders in this matter is cherry flavors, the benzaldehyde refluxes back into a shiny white powder on the bag. If you smell the powder, it smells like...cherry. If you taste it, its quite bitter, but still cherry-like. All this being said, Al manufacturers use synthetic flavors that I have seen. I would be shocked and speechless to find a company using actual fruit for its flavorings...because of the mold factor you have described. In my opinion, use of actual fruit is reckless from a number of perspectives. Nicotine should act like a satisfactory preservative, so thats why I even offer the idea that it might be from the flavor itself. If the company is cheating and using synthetic flavorings based on alcohol-solvents, it would bring up a number of other possibilities. Number one, the buzz would be immense. Alcohol both intensifies the absorption of and effects of nicotine. #2 they could be construed as illegal as the concentration or consumption of vaporized alcohol is illegal (to prevent illegal distilling). #3, the solvent would be volatile and would have the effect of evaporating, leaving a great many erstwhile chemicals stuck with no solvent to liquefy them. This could also contribute to the syndrome you are describing, similar to the reflux of a volatile flavor component, but in this case, the reflux of the solvent would leach flavoring components out of the tobacco leaving them deposited on the sides of the container/bag/whatever as there would be an interface where some of the the alcohol would reflux out and wash back into the tobacco, while some of it would continue to leave the container as a gas. This interface would move steadily down as the amount of alcohol left decreased. This is similar to the crud you see on water glasses that have been left for a long enough period of time for the water to evaporate.

[MrMoodz]

So I bought a batch of Desi about 6 months ago. It's I gotta be in the mood for it so it's lasted a while. When I got them i put them in Lock n Locks, that were clean and dry. There were 3 flavors I hadn't tried. 2 of them... had mold growing in them, that I could see. I don't have pics with me get them up later. So in good conscience had to through out all my Desi. Wasn't a whole lot, but I don't want to breathe in mold...Biggest allergy for me.

Anybody else have this happen to you?

I have lost 2 batches of Desi to mold. I added a light amount of honey and glycerine to my other batches and they seem to be holding up fine.

[Bulldog_916]

I seem to remember some roll your own companies that like to spray their tobacco with a very light mist of flavoring in order to enhance the flavor of the cigarettes. Desi may do something similar because, since it's a more traditional tobacco, they want people to smoke it directly with coals on top, no foil. I mean, that light mist of flavor, combined with whatever water content it and the tobacco contains, could very well lead to mold. It isnt designed to be stored for long periods, and if it is, it's generally in a very dry environment like the middle east. Less room for mold growth. If you're in a very humid area, that doesnt help either. Even temperate climates may have issues like that for a portion of the year.