shesha1 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hookah company seems to not have these anymore. Is John the only one left selling these???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 http://www.southsmoke.com/pd_japanese.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 More in a couple weeks is the word on the streets of So Cal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foibled again Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 QUOTE (click @ Dec 3 2009, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>More in a couple weeks is the word on the streets of So Cal.Hopefully. The importer has been out of them for a while now so who knows. If you need some Japanese charcoals in the meantime, Hookah Company should have some Abu Hitam cokes or if you go down to Eric's you can pick some up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonix Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 QUOTE (foibled again @ Dec 3 2009, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (click @ Dec 3 2009, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>More in a couple weeks is the word on the streets of So Cal.Hopefully. The importer has been out of them for a while now so who knows. If you need some Japanese charcoals in the meantime, Hookah Company should have some Abu Hitam cokes or if you go down to Eric's you can pick some up there.Those Easy Lites? Have you tried them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foibled again Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 QUOTE (demonix @ Dec 3 2009, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (foibled again @ Dec 3 2009, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (click @ Dec 3 2009, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>More in a couple weeks is the word on the streets of So Cal.Hopefully. The importer has been out of them for a while now so who knows. If you need some Japanese charcoals in the meantime, Hookah Company should have some Abu Hitam cokes or if you go down to Eric's you can pick some up there.Those Easy Lites? Have you tried them?Not the black and orange box ones that say Easy-lite. Abu Hitams: http://www.hookahcompany.com/abu_hitam_black_56_prd1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Shock Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 never tried abu hitams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foibled again Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 They are pretty much the same as Golden Canaries except one side has a slight ridge in it and they tend to be lighter than GCs now so they don't quite put out as much heat. At one point they were considered better than GCs when they weighed more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 QUOTE (foibled again @ Dec 3 2009, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>They are pretty much the same as Golden Canaries except one side has a slight ridge in it and they tend to be lighter than GCs now so they don't quite put out as much heat. At one point they were considered better than GCs when they weighed more.i found those locally and the last 3 boxes i got nearly all the coal crumbled =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foibled again Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 If it means anything to you, they're what Eric has been using at the lounge ever since GCs became unavailable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Yeah, there are three weights of Japanese coals. The highest quality is the 18.8-19.0g bars, then the 16.5-17.0g bars, then the 15.3-15.6g bars. Abu Hitham or Canary, it makes no difference. Same coals, more or less. I like to lean on the 18.8g/bar boxes as much as possible. Abu Hithams currently are the 15g bars, thats why I don't like them right now. If they come back and the Canaries are 15g and the Abu Hithams are 18g, I'll switch recommendations. They are indistinguishable, except by weight. The weight is everything. Given all I can get right now are the 15g bars, I'm going with them. Hopefully the Canaries will be heavy again. If they are light, I'll go with the Abu Hithams since they are slightly cheaper wholesale. The last shipment of Canaries never got down to the 15g bars..they were about 1/3 18g bars and 2/3 16g bars. Like I said in other threads, they don't vary per box only by case which leads me to believe its intentional.Chinese coals tend to be heavier...but definitely lower quality. These rules only apply to the high grade Japanese coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shesha1 Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Last time there was a drought like this it last 6 months. I am worried, but I am happy I have 7 boxes at home. I hope by the time I run through those Goldens will be back. In the meantime to help save the boxes I split my time between Golden and Exotica (new and Improved). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Shock Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 QUOTE (Sonthert @ Dec 4 2009, 04:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah, there are three weights of Japanese coals. The highest quality is the 18.8-19.0g bars, then the 16.5-17.0g bars, then the 15.3-15.6g bars. Abu Hitham or Canary, it makes no difference. Same coals, more or less. I like to lean on the 18.8g/bar boxes as much as possible. Abu Hithams currently are the 15g bars, thats why I don't like them right now. If they come back and the Canaries are 15g and the Abu Hithams are 18g, I'll switch recommendations. They are indistinguishable, except by weight. The weight is everything. Given all I can get right now are the 15g bars, I'm going with them. Hopefully the Canaries will be heavy again. If they are light, I'll go with the Abu Hithams since they are slightly cheaper wholesale. The last shipment of Canaries never got down to the 15g bars..they were about 1/3 18g bars and 2/3 16g bars. Like I said in other threads, they don't vary per box only by case which leads me to believe its intentional.Chinese coals tend to be heavier...but definitely lower quality. These rules only apply to the high grade Japanese coals.im trying to picture you wieging coals?who the hell dose this beside eric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I gonna way those Exotica Japs when I get home to see how they stack up to Eric's Scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 can you light the abu's off each other like you can with canaries?i'm guessing since Eric uses them, the answer is yes....but, i'd like to be sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shesha1 Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 QUOTE (Stuie @ Dec 4 2009, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I gonna way those Exotica Japs when I get home to see how they stack up to Eric's Scale.Guys Eric is 100% percent right. He actually weighed them in front of me once. I already knew the difference and that they ship different weights. I have some boxes that the coal looks skinny, and feels light the coal will only last 25 min. Then there are those boxes that the coal looks full, the box is heavy; and the coal lasts 40-45 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Shock Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 QUOTE (Stuie @ Dec 4 2009, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I gonna way those Exotica Japs when I get home to see how they stack up to Eric's Scale. there proably up there with canarys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foibled again Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 QUOTE (Arcane @ Dec 4 2009, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>can you light the abu's off each other like you can with canaries?i'm guessing since Eric uses them, the answer is yes....but, i'd like to be sure...Functionally they're the same. You'll notice the difference while starting a bowl and if you are a habitual GC abuser, you'll find yourself lighting coals a little more often to keep bowl temperature the same. It's not that big of a deal and I got over it quick.QUOTE (Jacob Shock @ Dec 4 2009, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>there proably up there with canarys.QUOTE (Sonthert @ Dec 4 2009, 03:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Chinese coals tend to be heavier...but definitely lower quality. These rules only apply to the high grade Japanese coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 QUOTE (Jacob Shock @ Dec 4 2009, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Sonthert @ Dec 4 2009, 04:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah, there are three weights of Japanese coals. The highest quality is the 18.8-19.0g bars, then the 16.5-17.0g bars, then the 15.3-15.6g bars. Abu Hitham or Canary, it makes no difference. Same coals, more or less. I like to lean on the 18.8g/bar boxes as much as possible. Abu Hithams currently are the 15g bars, thats why I don't like them right now. If they come back and the Canaries are 15g and the Abu Hithams are 18g, I'll switch recommendations. They are indistinguishable, except by weight. The weight is everything. Given all I can get right now are the 15g bars, I'm going with them. Hopefully the Canaries will be heavy again. If they are light, I'll go with the Abu Hithams since they are slightly cheaper wholesale. The last shipment of Canaries never got down to the 15g bars..they were about 1/3 18g bars and 2/3 16g bars. Like I said in other threads, they don't vary per box only by case which leads me to believe its intentional.Chinese coals tend to be heavier...but definitely lower quality. These rules only apply to the high grade Japanese coals.im trying to picture you wieging coals?who the hell dose this beside eric.I have when i get a new case of fumari japs in. Currently the case we have is around 16.7g. If you use GC's try the Fumari coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Santino let me know months ago a rumor went around that Golden Canary's was going bankrupt...probably so Good coals, I'll have to try the comparatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 QUOTE (redjako @ Dec 5 2009, 05:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Santino let me know months ago a rumor went around that Golden Canary's was going bankrupt...probably so Good coals, I'll have to try the comparatives.really? im surprised because alot of people use them..the same rumor that mz was going out of business..who knows.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santino Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 QUOTE (redjako @ Dec 5 2009, 02:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Santino let me know months ago a rumor went around that Golden Canary's was going bankrupt...probably so Good coals, I'll have to try the comparatives.That one place i told you about also has a large stock of abu hitham. Not to mention of a wall of GC's for $9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Lets put it this way, more or less, if a bar of Abu Hitham weighs the same as a bar of Golden Canaries, it will smoke the same. They light of each other and everything. If they weigh the same it just becomes a question of which one is cheaper (if they have a different price, which they usually don't...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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