NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='king_lunchb0x' date='11 December 2009 - 01:38 AM' timestamp='1260513507' post='437858'] alright so next time alot more shisha and less water/ice how can i tell when i hit the right amount in the bowl, i didnt think i was underpacking becuase thats about how much i used when i had my crap chinese hookah, which smoked pretty good [/quote] in the second pic, you see how the middle phunnel is almost about to bust out..its protruding..not supposed to do that..so add a little more until you can see the ring of the phunnel but the foil doesnt sink around it looking like a mountain, if you can punch a few more holes it wouldnt hurt either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 alrighty will try again in 30min or so, thanks again everyone for help on troubleshooting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nars2k Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Do this, Pack until the tip of the head. Then press it down a bit. Make sure its level with the top. Stop putting ice in your vase and try it without ice. Your stem end shouldn't be submerged more than one and a half inches. You should also make a hole in the middle of the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 i actually added a hole in the middle about 5 minutes into the session to see if it changes anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Magnetic Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 just by looking at the picture it looks like the foil is touching the opening in the phunnel bowl. if you inhale and the foil goes down even more its gonna be hard for you to get a draw. try sanding the middle part down a bit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='wesclrg' date='10 December 2009 - 11:21 PM' timestamp='1260516076' post='437867'] just by looking at the picture it looks like the foil is touching the opening in the phunnel bowl. if you inhale and the foil goes down even more its gonna be hard for you to get a draw. try sanding the middle part down a bit.... [/quote] yup tried it, hand sanded for about 15minutes, my hand got tired after that. I think ill keep sanding again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='king_lunchb0x' date='11 December 2009 - 01:24 AM' timestamp='1260516260' post='437869'] [quote name='wesclrg' date='10 December 2009 - 11:21 PM' timestamp='1260516076' post='437867'] just by looking at the picture it looks like the foil is touching the opening in the phunnel bowl. if you inhale and the foil goes down even more its gonna be hard for you to get a draw. try sanding the middle part down a bit.... [/quote] yup tried it, hand sanded for about 15minutes, my hand got tired after that. I think ill keep sanding again [/quote] Christ will have returned by the time you're done hand sanding that bitch down. i just say get some nakhla and pack the shit out of it to overcome your phunnel issue until you have your tang phunnel in. the reason i say nak is because it's the cheapest and that will be A LOT of tobacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd4snd Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I've never been a fan of the Havana phunnel bowls. A friend of mine has one, and we almost had to make a tinfoil scalli's mod to prevent the foil from covering the middle hole. Also, it didn't retain heat that well, so I when we did smoke with it, we had to constantly get more coals. I would say pick up a new Tangiers phunnel from HookahJohn, with some of the new mizo hes got, throw it in there and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 so whats the verdict bro? did it get better for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 another option would be an aluminum scalli mod. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 ok well it wasa semi-succeful session now. Packed it to the rim and got little bigger coulds but i think the foil sucking down is still somewhat of a problem, the smoke was alot better this time but still very thin and not alot, i tried putting on my wind cover and it makes the clouds even bigger make it became too harsh even with 2coals and windcover. Whats this aluminum scalli mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='king_lunchb0x' date='11 December 2009 - 01:38 PM' timestamp='1260556687' post='437994'] ok well it wasa semi-succeful session now. Packed it to the rim and got little bigger coulds but i think the foil sucking down is still somewhat of a problem, the smoke was alot better this time but still very thin and not alot, i tried putting on my wind cover and it makes the clouds even bigger make it became too harsh even with 2coals and windcover. Whats this aluminum scalli mod? [/quote] pop holes in the middle of the phunnel for air flow and you wont have foil getting sucked down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD' date='11 December 2009 - 10:42 AM' timestamp='1260556952' post='437995'] [quote name='king_lunchb0x' date='11 December 2009 - 01:38 PM' timestamp='1260556687' post='437994'] ok well it wasa semi-succeful session now. Packed it to the rim and got little bigger coulds but i think the foil sucking down is still somewhat of a problem, the smoke was alot better this time but still very thin and not alot, i tried putting on my wind cover and it makes the clouds even bigger make it became too harsh even with 2coals and windcover. Whats this aluminum scalli mod? [/quote] pop holes in the middle of the phunnel for air flow and you wont have foil getting sucked down [/quote] will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 hey does anyone have a guide to tealight mod that doesnt involve youtube...i can not play any youtube videos..flash player wont work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Tealight mod: Buy some tealight candles, take the candle out. Cut triangles like pictured, and throw down over middle hole of the phunnel. You're good to go. [IMG]http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p40/INCUBUSRATM/Random/DSC00944.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p40/INCUBUSRATM/Random/DSC00945.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p40/INCUBUSRATM/Random/DSC00946.jpg[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Also, from your pics that is waaaaay too much water bro. When I had my KM I had the vase with the camel on it and I'd only fill it to the top of the camel or tree, maybe not even that high. Try only to the top of whatever symbol is on your vase. Only half an inch to an inch above the end of the downstem.Too much water can greatly restrict your draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='11 December 2009 - 11:09 AM' timestamp='1260558563' post='438004'] Also, from your pics that is waaaaay too much water bro. When I had my KM I had the vase with the camel on it and I'd only fill it to the top of the camel or tree, maybe not even that high. Try only to the top of whatever symbol is on your vase. Only half an inch to an inch above the end of the downstem.Too much water can greatly restrict your draw. [/quote] i did less water this time but not that low will try little less Edited December 11, 2009 by king_lunchb0x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='11 December 2009 - 09:09 AM' timestamp='1260558563' post='438004'] Also, from your pics that is waaaaay too much water bro. When I had my KM I had the vase with the camel on it and I'd only fill it to the top of the camel or tree, maybe not even that high. Try only to the top of whatever symbol is on your vase. Only half an inch to an inch above the end of the downstem.Too much water can greatly restrict your draw. [/quote] i put as much water as i can get away with....doesn't seem to affect the draw much for me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helix746 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 def more shisha, try less coal. some of the guys here use 4 whole cocos or ch coals but mine just burns when i do that, i cut mine in half. 4 half ch coals, more shisha, and most definitely holes in the center phunnel if its sucking the tin foil down that is your problem with air flow, if you poke 3-4 holes in the phunnel hole you should have a nice draw. i dont think the water matters much, but if you have too much it can get into your hose and clog it or if its non-washable ruin it. i usually know when i have enough shisha that its level with the rim of the bowl and its packed really tight, not tight enough that shisha juice is squishing out the sides of the bowl but packed tight, it should definitely feel dense when you push down on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 as stated, you need way more shisha. don't be fooled by my mizo tutorial ... that is on a mini phunnel, for small medium or large phunnels, you can really see how much friggin nakhla i pack in a phunnel. crack your coals in half too, works much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='mattarios2' date='11 December 2009 - 11:31 AM' timestamp='1260559897' post='438016'] as stated, you need way more shisha. don't be fooled by my mizo tutorial ... that is on a mini phunnel, for small medium or large phunnels, you can really see how much friggin nakhla i pack in a phunnel. crack your coals in half too, works much better. [/quote] how do you break the little ch coals in half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='king_lunchb0x' date='11 December 2009 - 12:47 PM' timestamp='1260557259' post='437997'] hey does anyone have a guide to tealight mod that doesnt involve youtube...i can not play any youtube videos..flash player wont work [/quote] [quote name='king_lunchb0x' date='11 December 2009 - 02:01 PM' timestamp='1260561691' post='438027'] [quote name='mattarios2' date='11 December 2009 - 11:31 AM' timestamp='1260559897' post='438016'] as stated, you need way more shisha. don't be fooled by my mizo tutorial ... that is on a mini phunnel, for small medium or large phunnels, you can really see how much friggin nakhla i pack in a phunnel. crack your coals in half too, works much better. [/quote] how do you break the little ch coals in half? [/quote] Take a knife and place it over the middle of the coal and take a hammer or other object and hit the top of the knife... Splits them perfect every time. No need to score the coal first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_lunchb0x Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='11 December 2009 - 12:06 PM' timestamp='1260561983' post='438029'] [quote name='king_lunchb0x' date='11 December 2009 - 12:47 PM' timestamp='1260557259' post='437997'] hey does anyone have a guide to tealight mod that doesnt involve youtube...i can not play any youtube videos..flash player wont work [/quote] [quote name='king_lunchb0x' date='11 December 2009 - 02:01 PM' timestamp='1260561691' post='438027'] [quote name='mattarios2' date='11 December 2009 - 11:31 AM' timestamp='1260559897' post='438016'] as stated, you need way more shisha. don't be fooled by my mizo tutorial ... that is on a mini phunnel, for small medium or large phunnels, you can really see how much friggin nakhla i pack in a phunnel. crack your coals in half too, works much better. [/quote] how do you break the little ch coals in half? [/quote] Take a knife and place it over the middle of the coal and take a hammer or other object and hit the top of the knife... Splits them perfect every time. No need to score the coal first. [/quote] oo sounds dangerous me likes ive also been trying to find a guid to aluminum scalli mod but every leads to youtube, anyone have a link to one thats not tied to youtube site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 The tealight mod works just fine... is that what you're talking about? Look at the bottom of page two of this thread... I showed you how to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Here's a pic of it packed with horchata lucid: [IMG]http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p40/INCUBUSRATM/Random/DSC00948.jpg[/IMG] Tealight mod's purpose is for saving shisha. For Tangiers it really helps you out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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