Screen Vs Foil

[Amn_sinclair]

so ive been using a screen lately and i really havent noticed a difference in how well it smokes. I get huge clouds either way. Has anyone noticed a difference between the two?

[Dr. B]

i use a screen for nak on my egyptian bowls. no real difference except the screen seems like it diminishes the life of the bowl by a bit, but that may just be because it retains more heat than foil.

[Amn_sinclair]

i use the screen on my phunnel with tangiers and it doesnt seem to make a difference... i havent noticed it going through the bowl quicker since tang lasts so long. still working on 1 bowl for an hour and a half and the coals die before the bowl is done

[T355]

I have only used a screen once. And the whole bowl was spent within 25-30 min. I am guessing I wasn't using it right or something.

[Pretender85]

used to use a screen(on that combo bowl from h-s), never noticed much of a difference, except with the screen i used 1-1.5 coals vs 2 with foil(and the shisha would run out a bit faster), so I presume screens transfer more heat than foil.

[Codename067]

Again with this subject...


Let me tell you something, if you are getting "huge" clouds of equal size with the screen and the foil, then you are definitely doing something wrong with the foil.

You should be able to achieve more smoke, more flavor, and more density [milkiness] in your smoke using a foil.

How do you do your holes on the foil?

[blahsnap86]

I've used both before and usually I can't tell a difference. It's possible that foil gives slightly thicker, larger clouds. I will say that there is a certain level of convenience with the screen as it's easier to mix up the shisha mid bowl - moving the unused shisha to the top.

[chinamon]

here is how i see it.
glycerin/molasses based tobacco smokes better when "baked" (foil) rather than "grilled" (screen).

[Codename067]

Let me stress this really quickly.

With a Screen, the holes are pre-"drilled", and you have no control over how big/small they are, or where they may lay in the screen. These holes are extremely big compared to what I would do on a foil using a tooth pick.

These larger holes on the screen allow more air to run through your bowl, and this air is mixing with the smoke, decreasing flavor and smoke density. It's just simple logic.

With foil, you make the holes however you see fit. I like to try different ways of doing holes every week or so to see what works best. Bigger, fewer holes; smaller, extra holes..ect.

[ezxen]

Other than life of a bowl no real difference

[Jacob Shock]

IM with codename067

if you dont notice a differnce, your using the foil wrong.

glass screens are an exception to this rule though.

[dizzbizz]

I too agree with codename. I used a screen exclusively with my first hookah and thought it was the shit. Then i started to use foil and really worked on my heat management, then I realised what I was missing.

[Amn_sinclair]

i understand where you are coming from codename and you may be right. I havent tried using foil on my new phunnel since i got it so i will give that a shot tonight when i get home from work. In the mean time though the holes on this screen are mor organized then the holes i have seen on screens before. There is an outside ring of larger holes then the holes inside that ring or notaacably smaller about as thick as a tooth pick. and if i brought up something that has been talked about in the past a lot i apologize i tried searching but i just couldnt come with anything.

[chinamon]

[quote name='Codename067' date='14 December 2009 - 01:48 AM' timestamp='1260755330' post='438768']
These larger holes on the screen allow more air to run through your bowl, and this air is mixing with the smoke, decreasing flavor and smoke density. It's just simple logic.
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more air? i dont agree with this.
only the same amount of air will be pulled through as your lungs fill to capacity. if more air was pulled through then the hookah and vase would expand like a balloon. lol

[nars2k]

Damn you guys handeled this thread lol. I definitely agree with with Code. In this case its not all about lung capacity, the larger the holes the more air gets in with less pressure. Increasing the air ratio, Meaning that the smoke is not going to be as thick. I don't know about flavor.

Lets use hoses as an example; You have a KM hose, and next to it you have a regular mya hose. You have a one hose hookah and you interchange the hoses on it and smoke, why does the KM feel so much easier to pull? Your lung capacity hasent changed at all but its because of the size of the hose, if you notice on hoses like KMs or Nammors compared to regular Mya style hoses the KMs have a larger circumference, meaning the hole is bigger on the inside so when you smoke you get more smoke beacuse you can pull more air and smoke in because of the dimensions, but your lung capacity is left unchanged. The ext